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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: A peek into an alternate reality
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on: May 17, 2012, 03:57:40 AM
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A peek into an alternate realityBy Steve Benen Wed May 16, 2012 9:23 AM EDT Romney's magic act in Iowa yesterday.Mitt Romney delivered a curious speech in Iowa yesterday, presenting his thoughts on the budget deficit, the debt and debt reduction, which is worth reading if you missed it. We often talk about the problem of the left and right working from entirely different sets of facts, and how the discourse breaks down when there's no shared foundation of reality, and the Republican's remarks offered a timely peek into an alternate reality where facts have no meaning. Even the topic itself is a strange choice for Romney. If the former governor is elected, he'll inherit a $1 trillion deficit and a $15 debt, which he'll respond to by approving massive new tax cuts and increasing Pentagon spending. How will he pay for this? No one has the foggiest idea.
In other words, the guy who intends to add trillions to the debt gave a speech yesterday on the dangers of adding trillions to the debt.More importantly, though, Romney presented a vision of the last few years that bears absolutely no resemblance to reality at any level. Jon Chait had a good piece on the remarks. Mitt Romney delivered a speech today about the budget deficit. It’s hard to wrap your arms around Romney’s argument, because it’s an amalgamation of free-floating conservative rage and anxiety, completely untethered to any facts, as agreed upon by the relevant experts.
In the real world, the following things are true: The budget deficit was projected to top $1 trillion even before President Obama took office, and that was when forecasters were still radically underestimating the depth of the 2008 crash. Obama did propose temporary deficit-increasing measures, an economic approach endorsed in its general contours, if not its particulars, by Romney’s economists. These measures contributed a relatively small proportion to the deficit, and their effect is short-lived. Obama instead focused on longer-term measures to reduce the deficit, including comprehensive health-care reform projected to reduce deficits by a trillion dollars in its second decade. Obama put forward a budget plan that would stabilize the debt as a percentage of the economy. Obama has hoped to achieve deeper long-term deficit reduction by striking bipartisan deals with Congress, and he has tried to achieve this goal by openly endorsing a bipartisan deficit plan in the Senate and privately agreeing to a more conservative plan with John Boehner, both of which were killed by Republican opposition to any higher revenue.
The story told by Romney is one in which all of these things are either untrue or could not possibly be true.I don't think Mitt Romney is stupid. I do think Romney is operating from the assumption that voters are stupid.In Romney's speech, the deficit is responsible for a tepid economic recovery. That doesn't make any sense -- and I suspect the former governor knows that -- but he's counting on you not knowing the difference. What's more, he's avoiding interviews with journalists who might ask him to explain why on earth such arguments should be taken seriously.
In Romney's speech, the deficit can be dramatically reduced magically, even while cutting taxes on the wealthy and increasing spending on defense. How? Apparently, we're not supposed to ask.In Romney's speech, "spending" has created a "financial crisis" (that's gibberish). In Romney's speech, the size of government has exploded to new heights (the opposite is true). In Romney's speech, the deficit is growing (it's actually shrinking). In Romney's speech, President Obama doesn't care about fiscal responsibility (Obama offered Republicans an overly-generous $4 trillion debt-reduction package, which the GOP rejected). In Romney's speech, Bush-era policies have absolutely nothing to do with Obama-era deficits (ahem). In Romney's speech, everything we know about the Recovery Act should be replaced with talking points that don't make sense. Watching the Republican's remarks, I was annoyed by the breathtaking dishonesty, but I was also struck by something that seemed rather new to me: Romney's immaturity. His arguments weren't just wrong; they were silly. If the political discourse were in any way grounded in fact, this was the kind of speech that would laugh Romney off the national stage, with sensible people agreeing that the guy just isn't ready for the big kids' table. Grown-ups don't feel the need to create fantasy lands where their wishes are true. The speech seemed like it had been written by a high-school student who's preoccupied with Rush Limbaugh's radio show and assorted right-wing Twitter feeds. I couldn't take Romney seriously yesterday because Romney no longer cares enough to take himself seriously.We got a peek into an alternate reality yesterday, and it appears that Romney Land is a deeply foolish place. Hi, PEA BRAIN!  Good post Romney is a joke
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama backs gay marriage
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on: May 16, 2012, 08:13:55 AM
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Obama doesn't believe in evolution either, since he states he is a Christian and believes the Bible tells him to distribute other people's money and love homo sin. Why is this not computing in your little brain, fool? Should I draw you little pictures?
Well then you and Obama are idiots, both of you. I would draw you a picture but since you still believe in fairy tales im not sure how much effort is worth spending on you
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama backs gay marriage
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on: May 16, 2012, 07:55:41 AM
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See what I mean.
So being a fag is like being a slave? Nevermind that the judicial as well as the sacrificial/ceremonial aspect of the Mosaic Law have been annulled by Jesus' sacrifice as stated by the apostle Paul in Romans 1-8 and Hebrews 8-10. The moral law is still, however, intact. Which means moral sins are still moral sins under the current dispensation of grace and that still includes homosexuality.
Now going back to ancient times of Moses, servitude was still a reality of life and part of that culture. Mosaic law wasn't going to change those attitudes, just like it didn't change their views towards divorce. Strangely enough you leave out the verses that made it illegal to abuse slaves (Exodus 21:26,27), that many Hebrews willingly became servants of others in order to escape hunger and poverty (Lev. 25:39-43) and that the Mosaic Law allowed for their closest relative to pay a price to free them from the bondage of foreigners (Leviticus 25:47-49).
But, it's hilarious, how people who don't know anything about scriptures try to bring up the Mosaic Law when clearly Jesus created a new pact that replaced that law. But, in that new pact, homosexuality is still a sin. Period. Romans 1:26,27 I Corinthians 6:9,10
I am not going to get into a theological discussion with people whose only concept of scripture is "what would Jesus do" and what their liberal leaders tells them to think.
Living his life according to scripteres written by people even less informed than yourself. Evolution going backward sad really sad 
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama vs Romney
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on: May 16, 2012, 07:52:07 AM
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I thought it was already going to collapse anyway? You mean all the crying you did his first term was for nothing since it won't happen until his second one?
Does that mean doctors won't be walking off their jobs with their black duffel bags to torch cities across the country until the second term?
333 and the rest of the neocons have no long-term memory apparently
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Getbig Alternative Boards / V Board - General Random Threads / Re: The GOP has no respect for our troops
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on: May 16, 2012, 07:49:46 AM
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Incorrect, my simple minded friend. First, it's not a "man", it's God. Second, He never stated to hate people. Men misinterpreted HIS words. The scriptures, UNDER GRACE, state to love one another BUT HATE SIN. Big difference. Third, Obama BELIEVES IN some sort of GOD and BELIEVES HIS WRITTEN WORD TELLS HIM TO DISTRIBUTE WEALTH AND LOVE HOMO SIN. He, like you, doesn't have a clue about the scriptures, but he still stated that he believes in (as you put it) an invisible man in the sky. So Obama must be a stupid christian. Right?
I would ask you to try harder, but I can tell you can't do any better.
If Obama believes in god(the Biblical version) he is retard as well and shouldnt be pres
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Getbig Alternative Boards / V Board - General Random Threads / Re: The GOP has no respect for our troops
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on: May 15, 2012, 09:36:29 AM
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Whork must be smoking that stuff. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is PLEADING with the Dems, not to make all these military cuts, or our Armed Forces are SCREWED.
Grasping at straws is an understatement. The liberals are going into full panic mode. The House and Senate Dems are chewing their nails, as never before. Even Charlie Rangel's seat ain't safe. And, if Obama take his homo-pandering campaign to Missouri, Claire McCaskill is all but dead meat.
So the dems are idiots as well no surprise there.
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Getbig Alternative Boards / V Board - General Random Threads / Re: The GOP has no respect for our troops
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on: May 15, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
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Anything to back that up or is this just some random opinion?
LONG-TERM MEMORY Information is transferred from short-term memory (also known as working memory) to long-term memory through the hippocampus, so named because its shape resembles the curved tail of a seahorse (hippokampos in Greek). The hippocampus is a very old part of the cortex, evolutionarily, and is located in the inner fold of the temporal lobe. All of the pieces of information decoded in the various sensory areas of the cortex converge in the hippocampus, which then sends them back where they came from. The hippocampus is a bit like a sorting centre where these new sensations are compared with previously recorded ones. The hippocampus also creates associations among an object’s various properties. When we remember new facts by repeating them or by employing various mnemonic devices, we are actually passing them through the hippocampus several times. The hippocampus keeps strengthening the associations among these new elements until, after a while, it no longer needs to do so. The cortex will have learned to associate these various properties itself to reconstruct what we call a memory. Source: Collection of Carol Donner
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama's plan: pander to blacks, gays, latinos, women & NEVER DISCUSS HIS RECORD
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on: May 15, 2012, 09:01:10 AM
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Do you think anyone would employ him? Seriously? A pathological liar who resembles an autistic child having a tantrum every time he logs onto the internet?
Nope. Its pretty funny that he supports capitalism and Darwinian free market so much when its clear to everyone he cant make it in such a society. He needs hand-outs from others maybe thats why he hates the government and welfare so much? Projections? Because deep down he knows he is the one who needs these things and it makes him ashamed that he cant live up to the ideals in his head.
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Getbig Alternative Boards / V Board - General Random Threads / The GOP has no respect for our troops
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on: May 15, 2012, 08:29:34 AM
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Remember during the whole war on terror thing repub said it was the confrontation of our life time and how everyone who didnt support it was unpatriotic traitors? Well guess what now they have forgotten all about that, infact even OBL is not important anymore, only the economy matters.
What does that say about repub and their view on the troops?
The GOP's view on our troops is that they are useful idiots to send to war and get killed when its convinient. Fuck you GOP (RP not included)
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