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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: POLL: Obama leading GOP opponents (+13 on Romney, +12 on Huck, +26 on Palin)
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on: January 18, 2011, 03:15:50 AM
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A current president should almost always be considered a favorite before a re-election bid.
They are publicly well-known and people knows them well.
That's why all one-termers IMO come across as somewhat of disappointments.
Add Al Gore to this category, who managed to lose his bid against George W Bush, despite having the record of Bill Clinton to back him up.
It's a huge advantage going into presidential debates and what not if you're "The Man".
So there's IMO a lot of pressure on Obama.
Whoever is picked as the GOP candidate just have everything to gain, nothing to lose.
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: More bad news for Sarah Palin
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on: January 11, 2011, 03:01:07 PM
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i believe that Palin and her team will never get past this tragedy. if Palin runs for President there will be more posters printed with crosshairs and Gabrielle on them at rallies than posters with Sarah on them.
i truly think that her political career is over.
now, is Palin responsible for this shooting? obviously, she is not directly responsible.
words have consequences though.
-NT
I think a good example is tomorrow when the President is bound to make an appareance in Az. Pt Obama needs to speak responsible, more than anyone else. Since he's the most powerful guy in the world right now. So how he acts in a moment like this will be very interesting. Will he call for a "truce", so to speak. And give everyone a sense of feeling helped. Or will he say something that only will nurse those who are supporting him? The toxic political environment may have played a part in this. But it does absolutely no good to point out scapegoats, or persons you may believe are responsible. Because it ain't gonna make it easier for them to back off. It will just continue the constant bickering. It would be much better to avoid mentioning names at all. Or pointing to certain groups. After all, it is "united we stand, divided we fall" right?
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
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on: January 10, 2011, 01:55:32 PM
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The latest news from the opponents of health care reform who like to suggest that supporters should suffer for their transgressions: A day after two Virginia Tea Party activists posted the address of the brother of a congressman who voted for the bill, authorities discovered that someone had severed a gas line at the man’s home.
That is, of course, just totally unacceptable. If it is true.Source? But I think both sides needs to focus on what they're doing themselves instead of trying to stop the OTHERS.
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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: JM Blakely
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on: January 10, 2011, 01:51:54 PM
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One more think that I forgot to mention, he thougth that it's best not to flare the elbows out, and to try and keep them at a 45 degree angle from the mid-line, rather than at a 90 degree angle. Also, he thinks that a HUGE bp is mainly from the triceps, as he used to make the point about guys coming back from pec tears pressing even more weight than before their pec tears.
With the newer shirts I gotta humbly disagree. It was correct with the EHPHD. But the way the next generation sleeves are sewn onto the body I think it's different today.
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
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on: January 10, 2011, 01:37:36 PM
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All I'm saying is this.....
When 1 of the 20 on the list was targeted, she left the list up. Irresponsible. Agreed?
Instead of making Sarah Palin the scapegoat, why not realize that she's a creature of a certain political culture. How the hell has she been treated btw. Some nasty assaults on her family affairs that should've never been an issue. The issue isn't Sarah Palin. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or Olbermann. It's the political environment as a whole. The biggest players are those who have the biggest responsibility. So Obama, Steele, Limbaugh, Boehner, Beck, O'Reilly, Olbermann, Rahm Emanuel, Clinton, CNN, FOX, CBS, MSNBC. You get the point. They all need to be leaders right now. Looks like at least Boehner and Olbermann have hinted they will do something along those lines.
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.
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on: January 10, 2011, 07:33:54 AM
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Palin is a retard and has lots of stupid brainwashed followers. Her rethoric is hatefull and a stupid person could easily mistake her trash talk and resort to violence.
However without this trash talk Sarah Palin wouldnt have anything to say since she doesnt know anything but instead is relying on the feelings she enwokes in people.
So if Sarah should stop talking hate and fear she would have to retire because she would be irrelevant
Lay off Palin. I think she's in a terrible spot right now. She's doing the right thing and taking a "mini" timeout for the time being, trying to figure out what's going on. Hopefully the media will respect that.
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Grocery Store Event
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on: January 10, 2011, 06:20:48 AM
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Neuro, two wrongs don't make one right.
What I'm saying is that liberals lashing out against Palin is creating a potentially dangerous situation as well.
Right now everyone needs to calm the fuck down IMO and not stir up shit that will inspire loons on both sides to do anything stupid.
Eg, I saw on Fox Nation how some blogger there made some comment on Jane Fonda. And instantly had several replies about her deserving the capitol punishment.
That's insane.
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama: GOP victory in November means "HAND TO HAND COMBAT" - BITFO!
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on: January 09, 2011, 07:12:54 PM
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To expose the sheer and rank hypocrisy of people like olberamman, obama, and anyone else complaining about palin or the tea party.
Olbermann should've just said he was gonna change. Instead of telling everyone else they needed to. He can't force anyone to anything. If Glenn Beck ever had any thoughts of officially making a comment that he would back down or that he's sorry for any toxic comments he's made - then Olbermann just made that impossible to happen. So Olbermann is just stirring up shit even more with his actions. He ain't getting any sympathies IMO. I doubt any of the political commentaries like Beck, Olbermann et al are at the moment.
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Grocery Store Event
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on: January 09, 2011, 07:07:42 PM
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Hedge - honestly - I had to shut off the TV because of how bad the coverage has been - with all these outlets speaking in almost unison blaming palin and the tea party. Never have I seen such obvious brainwashing in as long as I can remember.
I know you're not too crazy about his views on guns.  And whether he is right or not about that I can't say. I guess pro-gun activists wants gun control under certain circumstances. But I guess his main issue is that there needs to be a little cooling down. Gergen makes a point about how it used to be violent anti-Bush themes by lefties. And now it's anti-Obama by righties. http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/09/gergen.pointing.fingers/index.html?hpt=C1BTW, I saw Olbermann call for Beck and others to apologize. It may be true. They perhaps should apologize and do some soul searching. But Olbermann showed that he didn't understand what this is all about since he didn't acknowledge his own part in whipping up a highly toxic political environment with his "Worst persons list" and shit like that. It would've been kinda refreshing had Olbermann said "Hey, I'm gonna stop with my shit. That's what's in my power. What others do, what Beck, O'Reilly and those guys do, that's up to them. But I ain't doing this anymore" But Olbermann didn't. Instead he pretended to be some kind of fucking saint. That's what's really bothering me. JMO...
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: congresswoman/judge shot in Arizona
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on: January 09, 2011, 06:40:10 AM
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I get it. You wouldn't do it. I believe you no problem. But it's exactly this type of rhetoric that I think is a waste. It only leads to more panic. When we need to keep things cool. One thing worth noting in all of this sadness. As a foreigner to USA, I can attest to that Americans do get stronger when there is a threat to the foundation of their freedom. I think USA, and its citizens, will rise up and face this fucked up adversity.
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Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Shot at Grocery Store Event
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on: January 09, 2011, 03:46:30 AM
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240, not even considering this psycho shooting, the "hit list" and some of the wording used by the tea party folks is simply stupid and easily taken as threating or inciting. Really, how fucking stupid is it to map out your political ambitions via scope sites on political opponents. At the very minimum it's extremely bad taste. And I sure in hell would think the same thing if some asshole on the left put scope sites on Palin or Ron Paul. Actually I'd be really pissed if they did it to Ron Paul  This psycho shooter will not hurt Palin whatsoever. You have to be fucking braindead to blame Palin for what this guy did. There shouldn't be any affect on her from this. I think this guy's insanity is going to be hard to avoid and I don't think any of this bullshit trying to blame right or left is going to stick. In the end people are going to see this guy for the nut he is. I just got done reading a few threads over on freerepublic and most of them clearly identified the guy as insane. Several calling his ideology, "unique" That of course ends in a translation that can't blame anything but the shooter's insanity. This will and should be a null effect on both the right and left. Of course it's the lone assassins LONE responsibility what he did. But I think everyone needs to ask themselves what kind of rhetoric they use. Like when Jaguar compares Bush to Hitler. Or this: 240 - the thing is that i hate obama so much I can easily overlook Sarah's issues and easily vote for her.
Some of you guys like Obama only slightly more than Sarah and thus could not vote for her.
See the difference? I am not an objective voice on this issue by any stretch and make no pretense of this.
I honestly 10000% believe that Obama poses a clear and present danger to this nation on many levels and is at his base core a radical marxist who utterly despises this nation, its history, etc.
I dont feel the same about Palin.
240 - read this quote and think about it.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero quotes (Ancient Roman Lawyer, Writer, Scholar, Orator and Statesman, 106 BC-43 BC)
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