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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Expendables 3 Flopped on: August 17, 2014, 08:50:47 PM
Wasnt the movie leaked a month before? Thatmay have impacted sales.
2  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) / Viral Marketing on: August 17, 2014, 08:47:35 PM

This is from 2006.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 14, 2014, 11:24:32 PM
Sumo grandmaster Steven Seagal does the dance of joy to aid Jones speedy recovery. Hail to the chief baby.

4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 13, 2014, 01:41:55 PM
Relax mma fans YOUR lightheavyweight champion and THE greatest human being on planet earth - Jonny "rattle dem bones" Jones will return fully healed for your viewing pleasure on Jan 3 -only on payperview. This will give Dan " Hebrew Fedor" Cormier time to get his surgery done so that there will be no excuses when Jon J wins yet again and retains the title.

According to Jackson, the injury occurred while Jones was defending a takedown from UFC heavyweight talent Alistair Overeem during wrestling practice.

"It's part of the game, it wasn't like ... somebody went for a flying kick and dislocated [something]. Somebody went for a takedown, [Jones] stepped the wrong way, twisted the wrong way and down he went. He was fighting it, and he just twisted it. And then it just popped," Jackson said.

"Alistair's maybe 240, Jon's 220. It's not like he was working with a giant moose. It was just one of those things."
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: jon jones and Dc intimate chat on: August 06, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
Are these guys trying to get us to jerk off.

Jon Jones: "Did you guys enjoy that (brawl)? It sounds like you guys did. But to all who found it distasteful, I want to sincerely apologize on behalf of myself and (pointing at DC) I apologize for you as well right?"

The pair tried to talk over each other for an extended period before Cormier sputtered "what the f---, can I talk?"

Daniel Cormier: "On Sept 27th they are doing to close that door and Bob Cook and Javier Mendez are going to go on that side of the cage, and Greg Jackson and those guys are going to go on that side, and it's going to be me, Jon, and someone else, and that's when it's going to get good."

JJ: "Oooh yeah, it's going to be intimate."

DC: "And passionate."

JJ: "I'm going to make him my wife. You're going to be Mrs. Jones for the night. I'm going to rub on that big ol' belly. And you're going to like it."

DC: "Yes you will. It's going to be right in your face. I'm going to put it right on your face. I'm going to smother you with my big ol' fat belly."

DC: "I've got to go in there and do everything and use every part of my body - my heart, my will, my soul, I have to leave everything in that cage on Sept. 27 and I'm fine doing that. I'm okay with leaving every part of me in that cage."

JJ: "And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why he's a commentator. He's a great talker. You got me over there like ĎMan, that's deep. That is deep. I feel you my brother.'"

DC: "You're such an a--hole."

Dude you just reposted what i put up earlier on the same page. Cheesy
Cause its so intimate....and passionate?

Seems like Cormier has a been shoving people at staredowns before except the last time there was no provocation. Patrick Cummins was the last recipient.

Thought he seemed like a pretty laid back guy. Maybe he should follow Cains's example and save his aggression for the octagon.
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 05, 2014, 09:24:35 PM
And.....the war of words continues.   Grin
These two need to get their own sitcom.

"It's going to be intimate," Jones cooed, echoing his words on ESPN News on Monday.

"And passionate," Cormier added.

"I'm going to make you my wife," Jones replied. "You're going to be Mrs. Jones for the night. I'm going to rub on that big ol' belly and you're going to like it."

"It's going to be right in your face," said Cormier. "I'm going to put it right on your face. I'm going to smother you with my big ol' fat belly."

With that, moderator Megan Olivi chimed in with the thought no doubt on many people's minds: "This is getting weird."

It's long been said that for Jones to truly live up to his potential, he needs to embrace the hate he gets from segments of the audience, rather than try to be all things to all people. It appears he's doing so. Jones walked into a hostile situation in downtown Los Angeles, which was clearly Cormier's California home turf. The rambunctious crowd serenaded Cormier with chants of "DC, DC" and booed Jones' entrance.

The champ gave it right back. He told one fan who taunted him to "come here and say it to my face." Another fan brought up an incident in which the fan spotted Jones eating lunch downtown before the event, insulted him, and then asked for a photo, which Jones refused.

Cormier took Jones' side, telling the fan you can't insult a fighter and then expect them to take a photo.

"See that? He won't even stick up for his own fans," Jones retorted.

And so it went. Jones stayed calm, cool, and in control throughout the proceedings. Cormier got more animated as the event wore on, especially when Jones began interrupting Cormier, which happened more frequently as the chat unfolded.

"What the f--, let me talk," Cormier snapped at one point.

At the end, Cormier was asked to sum up his thoughts.

"I've got to go in there and do everything," Cormier said. "Use every part of my body, my heart, my will, my soul, I have to leave everything in that cage on Sept. 27 and i'm fine with doing that. I'm okay with leaving every part of me in that cage.

Jones couldn't resist one last jab.

"And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why he's a commentator," the champ said. "He's a great talker. He's got me over there like Ďman, that's deep. I feel you my brother."

"You're such an a-hole," Cormier retorted.

7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 05, 2014, 08:58:03 PM
It's his self righteousness, when he was younger he was a snitch, giving up other kids if they smoked weed etc..  Like all snitches, he needs a good beat down. I can't stand religious hypocrites like that, of course he went onto endanger decent civilians lives as well as injuring two women when he crashed his car whilst heavily intoxicated.  Word is that he also like his girls - YOUNG !

Quote from JJ himself

"I've always been a person who tries to do the right thing in life, for the most part. I'm no angel, but I was always the kid who snitched on the kids who had pot. I don't want to offend the pot smokers out there, but I was kind of just a snitch. I was just down for people doing the right thing. My parents kind of raised me to be a good guy. I've always been down for the good side, I guess."

Well he's your typical christian hypocrite. What do you expect? What irked me was when he dropped machida on his face after choking him unconcious and then had to be reminded to " go get some fans". Not exactly  upto the martial arts image he claims to to live according to.

Personal feelings (and ninja tweets) aside he is an amazing fighter who is still evolving his game. I'd rather see him up against gustaf ( i see him winning that as well Cheesy) but stuff happened.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 05, 2014, 08:20:48 PM
Just in case anyone is unsure, the "fight" was planned.  As Reggie Jackson always said, "There's no such thing as bad publicity. Publicity is publicity."  

That "fight" yesterday added approximately 100,000 PPV buys to the bottom line. That's $6,000,000.  

Absolutely -  with regards to generating publicity that translated to higher buyrates.

As for the scuffle being that your opinion or has either fight camp admitted that it was staged? I'd guess the former.
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 05, 2014, 08:15:14 PM
Chuckles, lol.   Grin Don't get me wrong, I like McGregor, but fear he is probably better at running his mouth than he will be running for the title.  As for Jones, I do want to see his head caved in, and normally I would be backing Cormier to be the man to do it, but after reading about his knee troubles and him delaying surgery I worry this may not be his time. 

You seem to be pretty obsessed with seen Jones beaten. Is it the eyepokes/knee stomps? Maybe the ninja tweets he puts out? Cheesy.

I have no emotional investment in either but I've got Jones winning - most likely by decision. I'm aware of Cormeirs credentials and accomplishments to date but I think Jones has the tools to nulify him. I'm fine with Cormier pulling out a win if he's the better man on fightday. We'll find out next month how it all pans out.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 05, 2014, 07:50:20 PM
Why engage in a headbut during a staredown?  You get into a man's personal space like that, expect to be removed from said physical space.  It was a little shove, and who cares what the media would have said.  Is Jones that insecure that he needs everyone to think he isn't a coward.  Jones is backpedalling now because he knows he come off as a punk, and slowly but surely his true colors are showing.

And WTF?  Quoting Connor McGreggor, now there's a punk if ever there was one.

Easy there chuckles. No need to get all emotional. Its over. Both guys apologized. The media got their story for the week.

As for Mcgregor - we'll see how he fares against a top 10 guy. Managed to market himself pretty well.....for a punk.

11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 05, 2014, 07:26:31 PM
Bullshit.  The opposite is true.  DC is deep in Jones head.  Why else would Jones, a man who thinks his shit smells like flowers start a punk brawl over a little push.  Jones when facing opponents, normally does that "I won't acknowledge you, look away stare because I am so obviously superior"

Having said that, I worry DC might lose because of the serious knee injury he is carrying.

A little push? Why engage in a "little" push over a forehead touch thing that occur in most staredowns anyway. Someone posted a gif of rampage not falling for jones staredown games. That is how it should be done. Don't take the bait. Anderson does the same stuff from time to time. He shoved his face  (covered by a mask) up against vitors. Vitor kept his cool.Anderson shoulder bumped chael. Chael didnt escalate it. Had jones backed off after being shoved then the media would've had had a field day claiming he's terrified. Either way both looked pretty bad. If one of them had twisted an ankle or injured himself falling off the stage during the scuffle then the whole event could've been postponed. I don't have an emotional investment in either jones or cormier but i've got Jones winning. Most likely by decision.

Cormier did express regret over the incident though
"It's not for the good of the sport of MMA for us to be engaging in that kind of behavior," Cormier said. "We're still new, and the verdict isn't out on us yet. People don't necessarily know us outside of the cage, so it is very important for us to put our best foot forward every time, which it wasn't yesterday.

Connor McGregor told "In my head I was commentating on the situation. The fans were there, it was a great occasion. This the fight game, I don't give a s--.You don't grab a guy's throat. It's one thing head to head, whatever, but you grab a guy's throat, it's on. If someone had grabbed my throat, I would have broken his jaw."

The UFC brass voiced their disapproval but i'll bet that won't stop them from using clips of the staredown debacle to promote the fight though. Dana needs to stop going on vacation. Stuff goes wrong when his exalted presence is absent. Cheesy

12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 05, 2014, 07:21:30 AM
I've got Jones to win

Daniels been wayy to emotional for this fight and that will cause him to lose focus and get caught in Jones web. Leading up to the staredown daniel was rubbing his hands together nervously when they walked up to each other. It was daniel who initiated the fight by shoving jones. The head touch thing gets done often during staredowns and is nothing that needs to get so worked up over. If Jones had done something like Anderson did with his shoulder against Chael during their staredown it would justify cormiers response.  Who knows what was going through dans mind but he lost it not Jones. If he lets his emotions dictate his actions he's going to get snared in Jones web.

In any case all this is just speculation and the moment of truth will emerge once they meet and we'll see how things pan out.

I've got Jones for the win.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day) on: August 04, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
The mind games begin. Troll jones  in the house

In relaying their versions of events, Jones remained calm and talked in a monotone voice, while Cormier frequently laughed, and interrupted the champion on a couple occasions.

Jones had barely gotten through his opening statement when Cormier broke in the first time. "You know what," Jones said. "First of all, I'd like to give an apology to the MGM Grand, all the fans ..."

"It's so fake!" a laughing Cormier interjected. "It's so fake!"

Jones continued with his version of Monday afternoon's events.

"Definitely not proud of what I did today," Jones said. "But, what happened was, we had a faceoff, and in he UFC, two athletes get very close in the faceoff, our heads touched, our nose rubbed together, it's a very intimate, very passionate moment for a lot of fighters (Cormier laughs). I've never actually had another fight put his hands on me by squeezing my throat. I reacted in self-defense by beating up Daniel."

Cormier again took a mocking tone with the champion before getting serious.

"I have actually never heard a fight being described as Ďintimate and passionate,'" Cormier said. "I have no idea what Jonny Jones is talking about.
14  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) / Re: Steroids in PrideFC + chael Sonnen NSAC hearing on: July 27, 2014, 06:52:38 PM
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15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bridgette Gabriels speach about muslims on: July 21, 2014, 07:29:18 PM
Fact remains that as long as the peaceful majority (as they like to call themselves )remain silent they let the radicals take control of their religion. There are a very very small number of muslims who are very vocal about the actions of muslims who commit attrocities but they also are ostracized by their own communities for pointing out the truth.  The moderates prefer to stay silent either out of fear of reprisals or they support it because they feel they are supporting their own religion.

Hell here on getbig you have bigbobs and ahmad who were openly supportive of the taliban and other murderous Islamic regimes despite the numerous attrocities committed by them on their own citizens. Both these model getbiggers were also bragging about christians converting to Islam, and took whatever opportunity to classify Christianity as a lower religion as if this was some type of conquest march.Whenever confronted with facts they preferred to live in the delusional world that muslims can do no wrong and would frequently try to justify muslim terrorism.

Muslim Moderates like to play the victim card while covertly supporting the radicals. Until they speak out against these bizzare fatwas and their own clerics who preach hate and division they will always be lumped with the radicals.

Ypu wanna be a real religion of peace? Start by defusing (pun intended) your own who are treading down a radical path.  Clean your own house before someone else decides to do it for you.
16  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) / Steroids in PrideFC + chael Sonnen NSAC hearing on: July 20, 2014, 06:32:35 PM
For many years fans have speculated over how prevalent steroids were at the height of Pride Fighting Championships run as the premier organisation in mixed martial arts. There have been many rumours, and fighters themselves have spoken out about the use of performance enhancing drugs in the Pride era.

Seeing it in black and white should put it to bed.

Enson Inoue, Shooto and Pride veteran (and 1-0 in the UFC), posted what is reportedly an excerpt from his Pride contract which isn't ambiguous in the least.

As you can see above, recreational drugs were tested for, but 'performance enhancing stimulants of (the) steroid based family' were 'specifically excluded from the scope of the test'.

In layman's terms, they weren't looking for any steroids. So in theory, a fighter could use them without having to worry about being caught. It doesn't say that steroids are fine and that fighters should use them, but what you see above is about as far away from a deterrent to using performance enhancing drugs as you can find.

Another aspect of Pride was its connections with the Yakuza, and Inoue himself has had to answer allegations of being Yakuza affiliated himself. He spoke about Yakuza involvement, not just Pride, but in all aspects of Japanese business in culture on the Joe Rogan Experience, and I'd recommend watching if you've not looked much into the history of Japanese MMA before.

Another criticism of Pride FC was that the fights were fixed. Gary Goodridge touched on this.

None of this is a revelation to any of us that have witnessed the rise and fall of Japanese MMA, but it's probably the final nail in the coffin in terms of the long running debate as to how much steroids played a part in the fights we continue to discuss to this day.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Luck of the Irish on: July 20, 2014, 11:42:09 AM
I want to see him vs a wrestler.. guida, edgar or Lentz..
If he can handle/stuff a wrestler then we'll know he's the real deal.

I hope the UFC don't start protecting him like they do with bisping. Conor will be a big draw when fights are held in Europe so they may give him guys that don't pose much of a challenge.  He has his eyes set on holding a belt by the end of the year  so he'll have to face good opposition  soon
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Mike Tyson smacked up Chris Cormier once on: July 20, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
Please. We are talking prime Tyson. Dude was from the streets too. Your MMA god wouldn't know what hit him

Royce via chokes or Tyson via teeth.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Luck of the Irish on: July 20, 2014, 11:31:37 AM
He has potential, but he hasn't fought anyone of note yet. So far he's just hype.

I was expecting Brandao to put up more of a fight though. All the Irish SBGI fighters won that night. Could be the first time all fighters from the same gym scored wins on the same night.
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Luck of the Irish on: July 20, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
Okay maybe those lucky charms weren't needed. Everyone catch McGregor vs Brandao?

 Turned out to be a rock concert in the making. Media traveled to Ireland, too, because it wasnít to be missed. The people of the Republic of Ireland turned out and created pandemonium in McGregorís work place, total reverberation, reaching UFC-tested decibel levels of 111. Those are rock concert levels. Even White himself was talking about his dear old grammy, who stemmed from the green center of Cork, before the fight.

Conor McGregor is one of those guys that comes along in the fight game whose phenomenon you canít easily define. Who knows how long itíll last, or if heíll do as well in Las Vegas, or if heíll become a pay-per-view draw.
He's yet to test himself against a top 10 UFC vet.
21  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) / A look back at the biggest night in UFC history on: July 20, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
Last week, the fifth anniversary of the high point of MMA in the United States came and went, without all that much fanfare.

July 11 marked the anniversary of UFC 100, a show that at the time felt like a significant step in a long journey.
Today, it might be even more significant. It may not have been a new level in a long journey. It may have been the peak moment of the trip.

UFC has promoted a number of big fights and big shows over the last five years. But nothing theyíve done has reached even close to the level of social significance and mainstream talk as UFC 100 and its main event. On no night have so many key factors fallen into place. Five years later, the big question is no longer when, but if there will ever come a day when MMA is so big in the U.S. national consciousness.

There have been huge fights since that time, like the second Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen, the second Silva vs. Chris Weidman and George St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz. But as big as they were promoted, none captured the public interest at nearly the level of UFC 100.

Few remember a key part of the story. The UFC 100 main event of Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir, to unify the UFC heavyweight title and interim belts in the climax of a four-man tournament, was not even originally scheduled for the show.

Just the fact that match happened was pure luck. The fact it came with a built-in story was even luckier. The fact fate placed it on UFC 100 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, was the luckiest of all.

Lesnar combined speed, power and conditioning like few heavyweight wrestlers in U.S. history. He wasnít the most skilled wrestler in his collegiate days, nor would he rank among the top heavyweight wrestlers in U.S. history. But in 1999, his first year of Division I competition, after being a Junior College national champion the year before, he lost in the NCAA finals by a 3-2 score to Steven Neal. Neal went on to win the world championship in freestyle wrestling a few months later.

With Neal having graduated, Lesnar was the dominant heavyweight in 2000, capturing the NCAA title for the University of Minnesota.

His presence and physique caught the attention of the World Wrestling Federation, who gave him one of the biggest money offers in history to someone who had never even had a pro wrestling lesson, let alone a match. In some ways, he was a natural for that business. In other ways, he was all wrong for it.

Soon, he was one of the biggest stars in that world, earning well into the seven figures. Before long, he grew to hate strangers and airports so much that he purchased his own plane and hired a pilot to fly him to his matches from his home in Minneapolis. He was the WWE champion by 2002, and headlined WrestleMania against Kurt Angle in 2003. He was viewed as having more potential than any 300 pound man the industry had ever seen. And by early 2004, he was gone, hating the travel, the physical damage and the endless one-night stands associated with that industry.

Lesnar had an NFL tryout with the Minnesota Vikings in late 2004, where he made it to the final cut and was offered a spot in NFL Europe, even though he hadnít played a down of football in nine years. He turned that down as well, figuring if he was going to travel, he could have stayed a pro wrestler.

Aside from that brief period with the Vikings, Lesnar hadnít competed in a legitimate sport in just over seven years when he destroyed Olympic judo silver medalist Kim Min-soo, and got paid $600,000, on a K-1 show at the Los Angeles Coliseum in his first MMA fight.

With one fight, he went into the UFC.

Mir was a former UFC champion whose career was at a crossroads. He was on top of the world, and then a motorcycle accident left him with a broken leg.

UFC 81, On Feb. 2, 2008, was promoted around "Former WWE heavyweight champion vs. Former UFC heavyweight champion." The result was 600,000 buys, a hugely successful number for the time. Perhaps most impressive, of that total, 300,000 of those homes had never previously purchased a UFC pay-per-view. Lesnar was single-handedly expanding the UFCís audience.

Lesnar took Mir down in a split second and was firing away with hammer fists when referee Steve Mazzagatti jumped in.

Most thought he was stopping the fight, just seconds in. Instead, he was ordering a stand-up for punches to the back of the head. When the match restarted, the same thing happened, but in Lesnarís uncontrolled frenzy, he left himself open for a kneebar.

On one hand, Lesnar looked impressive, as an inexperienced fighter ragdolling a former world champion. On the other hand, the news reports that gave the sport coverage like it had never before received, joked at how the pro wrestler had lost in 90 seconds.

On the same night, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira beat Tim Sylvia via submission to win the UFC interim heavyweight title.

Shortly after that, the recognized heavyweight champion, Randy Couture, who left the company looking for a goldmine payday for a fight with Fedor Emelianenko while having a valid UFC contract, wasnít faring well in court. With age and time not on his side, he opted to return.

UFC announced a four-man tournament, with Couture vs. Lesnar and Nogueira vs. Mir. Lesnar won over Couture first to win the heavyweight title. A month later, Mir upset Nogueira to win the interim title.

The two were earmarked to headline UFC 98, on May 23, 2009, also in Las Vegas. But Mir underwent arthroscopic knee surgery in early March and asked that the match be moved back. Lesnar wasnít happy about it, and got even madder when Mir later said that he was actually ready to fight on May 23.

Georges St-Pierreís welterweight title defense against Thiago Alves and Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping in a battle of The Ultimate Fighter coaches had been long-planned for the century show. While never advertised, the original thought process at the time was that the main event at UFC 100 would be Rashad Evans defending the light heavyweight title against Rampage Jackson, provided Jackson beat Keith Jardine at UFC 96.

The story there was that Jardine was a best friend and training partner of Evans, and Jackson was one of the companyís biggest draws coming off his win over Chuck Liddell in 2007. Jackson had since lost the title to Forrest Griffin, who then dropped the title to Evans. Jackson followed that loss with a one-punch knockout win over Wanderlei Silva, at a time when Silva was still considered one of the most feared fighters in the world. Jackson beating Evansí best friend and then going after his title sounded like a good storyline.

But in this case, injuries turned out to rewrite history for the better. The UFC opted to move Evansí title defense to UFC 98, and move Lesnar vs. Mir to headline UFC 100. Jackson beat Jardine, but suffered a jaw injury, which meant he couldnít fight in UFC 98. Lyoto Machida got the shot instead, and then defeated Evans to win the title.
The end result was that UFC had its biggest mainstream star, Lesnar, and its No. 2 draw, St-Pierre, both headlining on its biggest show in history, with company momentum hitting its zenith.

Instead of Evans and Jackson having a title fight, they ended up coaching The Ultimate Fighter in the fall of 2009. The combination of their personal rivalry and Kimbo Slice being on the show led that to be the highest-rated season in the showís history.

The hostilities between Evans and Jackson on the set created a grudge match atmosphere that led to a show that was, by a significant margin, the most successful non-title fight in UFC pay-per-view history, at UFC 114 on May 29, 2010.

Lesnar vs. Mir, combined with the idea of UFC 100, and a St-Pierre title defense, created the perfect storm, as the main event struck a nerve to more people than perhaps any fight in history.

MMA fans had been taught, ever since they saw Royce Gracie easily choke out one big guy after another, that skill beats size and power. More important, they knew that pro wrestling was fake, and the real fighters were in UFC. While a lot of the MMA fan base that exploded the sport in 2005 and 2006 came from pro wrestling, by 2009, there was a weird dynamic.

A lot of MMA fans hated that while it was "real," that pro wrestling and pro wrestlers were better known to the masses. It got even more personal when Lesnar, a former pro wrestler, had clearly become the most well-known UFC fighter to the general public.

There was a feeling of superiority tinged with jealousy. Then, the worst thing happened. A large muscled pro wrestler knocked out the sportís legendary five-time world champion in Couture. Everything they knew had turned upside down.

At this point, Lesnar had become a hero to pro wrestling fans. The UFC was skyrocketing in popularity, and while not as big on television, had surpassed pro wrestling as far as what was cool and hip, with media stories about how the UFC was new and in and WWE was the past, even though they were no more like than the San Antonio Spurs are with the Harlem Globetrotters.

But WWE fans were threatened that UFC was blowing it away when it came to big show interest on pay-per-view. But then Lesnar, a pro wrestler, walked into UFC and, in the minds of people who often created storylines where none existed, got screwed by a biased referee in his first UFC fight. But he had since comeback to win its world title.
Four days before UFC 100, the Countdown show on Spike TV, build around Mir vs. Lesnar, drew 1.06 million viewers, the most of any show of its kind up to that point in history.

It was among the most effective shows in history. Both men watched the first fight and had completely divergent opinions of what had happened. Mir claimed he was in no trouble, and in fact, claimed he was about to finish Lesnar at the time of the first standup, claiming Mazzagatti had screwed him, and not Lesnar with the stand-up.
He claimed that the hammer fists Lesnar was landing on him were like punches from someoneís little sister. Mir was shown mocking Lesnar in the gym, making fun of him like he was some caveman Neanderthal.

The most inflaming comment was when the son of Mirís manager, stuffing his shirt at the shoulders to make it look like he had giant traps like Lesnar, lifted some dumbbells and said, "Lift weights and my double (leg takedown) is all I need," and growled like an animal. He then charged at Mir, who casually sidestepped him like a matador to a bull, and knocked him out. Dean Albrechtís son then got up, looked into the camera, and said, "Itís not the WWE," while everyone in the gym laughed.

The portion of the audience who hated Lesnar, loved Mir making fun of him. Those who liked Lesnar were inflamed beyond belief.

Mir talked about all sorts of strikes and submission moves that he would throw at Lesnar during the fight. He joked that Lesnar wouldnít even know what they were, and be so far behind in the game heíd be lost trying to defend them.

When running down the list of moves, he mocked Lesnar by saying, "Brock, Iíll explain what those moves are after the fight to you."

Lesnar watched the fight, and in the most memorable Countdown scene in history, punched a wall in his house so hard that down the hallway, a door fell off its hinges and collapsed in the background. Lesnar came across at that moment as something closer to a movie monster with bolts on the side of his neck and steam coming out of his ears than a real human being. He was also the heavyweight champion of the UFC, something that weirdly threatened a lot of the UFCís own fan base.

Spike was drawing even bigger ratings that week counting down the 100 greatest fights in UFC history, a unique list that somehow excluded any wins by Tito Ortiz, and any matches involving Frank Shamrock, Pat Miletich, Don Frye or Maurice Smith. At the time, all of those fighters were out of favor with UFC management. Everything related to UFC was on fire.

Media interest in the product was off the charts. Radio sports talk hosts who didnít know an armbar from the local bar were having to scramble when callers kept wanting to talk about a sport that, in their traditional ideas, didnít count, because they never grew up with it.

The momentum built as Mir became the representative of everyone who had been bullied by a bigger kid on the playground.

Lesnar was heavily booed, although no more than Bisping had been earlier in the show. He largely mauled Mir throughout the fight, taking him down and using schoolyard tactics like grabbing him in a headlock with his left arm and punching on the ground with the right, busting Mirís face.

Mir had his lone moment early in the second round, a flying knee that momentarily led to Lesnar seeing stars. But Lesnar took him down again.

The crowd, which booed Lesnarís offense the entire fight, started chanting loudly, "Stand them up."

It was one of the more amazing chants in UFC history, because Lesnar was damaging Mir significantly on the ground at that time. It was the first time a crowd hated a fighter so much that they wanted to pervert the sport. A stand up at that moment would have been ridiculous, but the fans saw that their favorite, a skilled fighter, was having no luck getting out of a simple headlock on the ground, a move that isnít supposed to work in a high-level fight, because of the sheer power and wrestling control of his opponent.

As the chant grew louder, Lesnarís punches landed harder and Mir was in trouble. The chant suddenly stopped. Seconds later, Mir went limp and referee Herb Dean jumped in to stop the fight.

Lesnar started celebrating to both cheers for the finish, and boos. There was no handshake after this one.

A groggy Mir got up and Lesnar got right in his face and yelled, loudly, "Talk all the s*** you want now," and security grabbed Lesnar and pulled him away.

As Joe Rogan went to interview Lesnar, the champion said, "Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass (referring to the win Mir had talked about for the previous 17 months). I pulled it out and hit him over the head with it."

As the crowd booed him louder, he screamed, "I love it. I love it." He threw down his mouthpiece, and with drool coming down his mouth, started head-butting the cage. For the purists of the sport, this was their worst nightmare come to life. Yet, at no moment in history, was the sport ever more alive.

He talked about going home and drinking a Coors Light (which infuriated Dana White, who made him apologize at the press conference since UFC was sponsored by Bud Light). hanging out with his friends, and closed with, "And hell, I may even get on top of my wife. See ya later."

A lot of fans cheered. A lot more booed. Either reaction, it was the sound of money, and lots of it.

"I was so jacked up," Lesnar said at the press conference. "Iím used to selling pay-per-views. I come from a business that is purely entertainment. I screwed up, and I apologize."

The day of the fight, for the first time, and the only time, a UFC event captured the public like an Ali fight or a Tyson fight. The 1.6 million buys on pay-per-view trailed only Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather and Tysonís two fights with Evander Holyfield and one with Lennox Lewis on the all-time list.

Of the 20 most searched for items on the Internet that day, nine were related to the show. Some were obvious, like Lesnar, Mir, Lesnar vs. Mir, UFC 100, St-Pierre vs. Alves, Henderson knockout and Henderson vs. Bisping. Others not so obvious included Rena Mero, Lesnarís wife, a former model and wrestling personality who the champion talked of jumping on; Fedor Emelianenko, who suddenly became Lesnarís dream match opponent; and even "Jonny Jones," a 21-year-old undercard fighter in his third UFC match. Aside from boxer Arturo Gatti, who had died earlier that day, no other sports related search cracked the top 100.

This continued for days. Three days later, the talk had switched to who could beat Lesnar, as not only was Lesnar still the most searched for item in sports and among the most searched terms overall, but now Shane Carwin and Alistair Overeem hit the top 15. By contrast, the Major League Baseball All-Star game, one of the biggest institutions in sports, that took place that day, was No. 67.

In Mexico, where UFC had never had any significant ratings, the Lesnar vs. Mir fight drew slightly more viewers than the Mexican national soccer team did the next day.

Approximately 5,000 bars, restaurants and night clubs in the U.S. ordered the show, the largest number of locations that had ever ordered any pay-per-view event in history, with turn away crowds being the norm.

Lesnarís next opponent, his toughest ever, wasnít Fedor, Carwin or Overeem. It was diverticulitis and diverticulosis. An intestinal infection brought the monster to his knees, and nearly killed him. He missed a year, and came back for a title win over Carwin before he lost the title to current champion Cain Velasquez. The two fights came nowhere near UFC 100 numbers, but were still two of the biggest UFC events in history. While he was as big and strong as ever when he got into the cage with Velasquez, it was clear the illness had robbed him of some of his athletic gifts, and he didnít have the skill and experience to make up for that.

St-Pierre, who beat Alves by winning every round in a decision, would soon replace Lesnar as the companyís biggest draw, and go on to become an all-time great. Then-prelim fighter Jones, would follow St-Pierre in that position.

Mir continued to fight, and even had two more title fights, losing an interim title fight to Carwin and a later title fight to Junior Dos Santos.

Lesnar retired after a loss to Overeem, and returned to the WWE. With his success in the UFC, he signed an almost unprecedented deal, getting the best of both worlds. He signed a new multimillion dollar contract that called for him to do three matches and make about a dozen television appearances per year. In some peopleís eyes, his beating The Undertaker at last yearís WrestleMania before 72,000 fans at the Superdome in New Orleans was more significant than his wins over Couture and Mir.

The UFC has for the most part, continued to flourish. There have been ideas, like a St-Pierre vs. Anderson Silva fight, that never materialized, that perhaps could have rivaled the interest of UFC 100. But they never happened and weíll never know.

Sometime, which should be around the summer of 2016, UFC 200 will be taking place. It may take some sleight of hand and numbers manipulation, but July, would be the perfect time, as the seven-year anniversary of UFCís biggest night.

That would a key ingredient. The other is having the right story with the right people come to fruition.

But if the lesson of UFC 100 is to be learned, itís not going to be something planned, or anything someone can foresee today. All itíll take is two strong, polarizing personalities from different worlds battling for a title after a first match that people canít stop debating. Itíll take something that heats up a fan base both in and outside of the MMA. And a door falling off its hinges at the right time wouldnít be the worst thing, either.
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: New Capt America is black and Thor becomes a woman. Thanks Marvel. on: July 20, 2014, 10:22:37 AM
Disney owns Marvel. Marvel owns Thor. Thor is now a woman, who is the daughter of king Odin. Thor is now a Disney Princess.

ó Brian (@DaftBrian) July 18, 2014

Coming to a walmart near you
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: New Capt America is black and Thor becomes a woman. Thanks Marvel. on: July 19, 2014, 08:16:55 AM
Same thing happened in the late 80's.

Grey Hulk
The Captain (Steve Rogers in new black Costume)
New Iron Man red and gold armor
Thor in golden armor/Beta Ray Bill as Thor

All due to impending copyright legal issues.

It's a legal thing, not a creative one.

New 52 in DC was the same thing.

Superman had to change because DC almost lost a bunch of his mythos due to legal issues.

They had to prepare and change the entire universe landscape around him. Superman loves Wonder Woman now because they almost lost Lois Lane. The list goes on and on.

So much shit people never know about and the companies don't want you too because they know the people will rally around the creators and hurt their sales even more...

Comics are an evil business...

I see. I thought this whole process was to create a buzz for flagging sales. They would eventually restore the characters to their original state when the next avengers movie hits.

Care to elborate a bit more what type of legal issues would cause changes?
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: New Capt America is black and Thor becomes a woman. Thanks Marvel. on: July 16, 2014, 10:19:42 PM
Grown man melting over comic book stuff.

That'll do Fermi...that'll do.

I wanted to put "thanks obama" instead of "thanks marvel" on the heading infuse a bit more humor/ outrage.

25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: New Capt America is black and Thor becomes a woman. Thanks Marvel. on: July 16, 2014, 10:00:36 PM
First world problems  Roll Eyes

We take our fantasies seriously here in the first world.  Cry

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