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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kai goes psycho on phil (kai vs phil video) on: April 12, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
Pretty delusional to even consider this for the top spot at mr O



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ezIfB3E_90w/S1IMHO7gefI/AAAAAAAAI24/aCe5GqxP10Q/s1600-h/2009+11+Kai+Greene+Eastern+USA+03.jpg

Philippe might be a tiny tit with clavicles rivaling the french catwalk models, but at least he's got the aesthetic twink look about him. Kai is just a bloated mess with a collapsed abdominal wall. Bring back the standard of the 90's please. Mass monsters with granite looks.

Also, they all fade into nothingness compared to a prime Coleman/Yates/Nasser/Dillet

That was his worst showing ever. (2010 Mr. O)
You Quote (Pretty delusional to even consider this for the top spot at mr O)
You are correct because he placed 7th that year and should have been 8th
behind Martinez.
He was still working with Oscar at the time who's known for putting size
on bodybuilders but also with a huge gut.

Go to the 2011 NYP working with Farah.
Team Andro filmed a long segment where you see them from the side
for a long time and Kai's gut is flat as a pancake.
Also, 2012 Olympia - incredible midsection.

2013 ASC Europe was not good stomach wise.
He dried out a lot from the Olympia which can irritate the stomach causing it to bloat.






2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Yates 96 German Gran Prix on: April 11, 2014, 06:20:53 PM
I think this photo shoot captured his granite look about as good
as any photos.
BTW - That video is shot in a 4:3 ratio format and posted in a 16:9 format
making his waist look a lot wider but also everything else.
This may have come from the makers of the DVD but I've seen other shots
from Nasser and they have that same stretched out look that are not from Delta.
I've also seen the original format video.
Open pictures to full size to get the full effect.
These smaller pictures don't do the full size ones justice.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Dorian Yates vs. Ronnie Coleman - who was better? on: April 10, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
I hate to keep hearing Yates was drier than everyone.
Was he drier than Paul Dillett when he froze up at the
1994 ASC he was so dry.
Did that give Paul that granite look that no one else seemed to have.
Dorian had genetically very, very thin skin that gave him that look.
Unfortunately, except for his back he wasn't gifted with a lot of separation/striations
except for his back.
Ronnie had extremely thin skin waist down from the back but no amount of water loss
or fat loss was going to make his back as detailed as Dorian's.
Darker skinned individuals in general have thicker skin but better shape and the lighter
skinned guys tend to have the thinner skin, grainier look.
There are exceptions but in general this is the way it is.
Fortunately for Ronnie he had pretty thin skin everywhere, although it seemed to be
thickest in his back. His mounds of back muscles plus excellent shape made his back
the best overall or 2nd best according to who you ask.
Yates had a bit bigger bone structure but Ronnie compensated for this with rounder,
more bulbous-but extremely striated muscle.
Ronnie had relatively weak delts until 98 and even then they were still a bit flatish according
to Peter McGough's Olympia report that year. He finally balanced out his delts with the rest of his
upper body in 1999.
Coleman had several great years and I happened to come across this a few weeks ago
and posted on another forum. Very impressive to say the least.
 
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ultimate Warrior eye rolling thread on: April 10, 2014, 06:17:42 PM
Why would you get defensive when other people point out the fact wrestling is fake?  

Written early morning on April 9th on a different forum.
Check last sentence... People considering it fake wrestling was dead 20 yrs. ago
and I havn't watched any since they had the WCW/NWO which was entertaining for a while.

He was the only reason I watched a bit of wrestling late 80's and early 90's.
I didn't care if he wasn't a great wrestler; I was inspired by the build and intensity of the gimmick.
This is a shock cause he was always no drugs, stay in shape, ect.
It was obvious he used his fair share of juice in his prime.
I've got a lot of the story now by spending about an hour on youtube so here is my take.

He did a video to promote a WWF video game and looked in tremendous shape for 53-54.
Obvious TRT, HRT at the least. He looked slim in the face and the abs were showing.
I've been seeing all these commercials about how TRT is bad for your heart, ect through new studies.
I sure hope it's just hype and propaganda because I planned on getting on TRT in the next 6 months
and get those test levels back to when I was 25 instead of 48.

Anyway, he was inducted in the WWE hall of fame and looked like a different person than the commercial.
I wonder if he may have had a mini stroke because the left side of his face; eye and mouth seemed to droop
ever so slightly but it is there if you watch long enough. This would explain a limp also.

Monday Raw he gives a death type speech talking about his last breath and how the legend
will live on way after he's gone. Something to that effect. Very strange that he died the next day.
I think he knew his health for whatever reason was not good.
He looked like he had aged at least 10 years in the last 5. In fact he looked like he had
aged 5 years or more from the commercial they had shot.

He made his mark on 10's of thousands of people and will be remembered as one of the 1st
to really bring the entertainment side out of Sports Entertainment instead of most considering it
fake wrestling at the time.

RIP Warrior

Day before he died speech - Kind of Prophetic so to speak.
Starts at 1:25
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR08M6EUd0g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR08M6EUd0g</a>
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Damn RIP Ultimate Warrior... on: April 10, 2014, 07:44:22 AM
Warrior was not a big boned guy; the same as most bodybuilder types.
Small joints and medium to small bones with big muscle bellies.
Considering this; Warrior put the best bodyslam ever on Andre
the Giant AFTER Andre got real heavy - around 550.
There were others who did very good slams on Andre when he was
around 400. Considering Warrior's overall size this was a very impressive feat.

Scott Hall (Razor Ramone) and Larry Zbyszko talk about this along with
talking about Arnold S. around the 2:50 mark.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYwL50Q7K1w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYwL50Q7K1w</a>
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I saw Wolf on Wall Street last night on: January 13, 2014, 12:56:28 PM

I just read the 1st page + some and I must becoming desensitized
to stuff I watch. The thing that bothered me on a moral level
was ripping off all those people of their money.
I can understand wanting to live most of your waking hours under the influence
of something if it makes you feel better. (Not talking extremes in the movie like
the qualudes did)..not remembering what you had done the night before.
I thought the movie was awesome and enjoyed pretty much the whole thing.
If Getbiggers are saying it's too much then I might need to check myself
although my times of wild parties with strippers and assorted candies are
a thing of the past.
I did feel bad for really LOLing when those old Ludes took him too a different phase
he had never been...the cerbal palsy phase + the way he moved on the ground;
way too funny not too laugh but still felt bad about it.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Did Dorian retire just before "Palumboism" had a chance to set in? on: December 28, 2013, 08:43:56 AM
I used to think that Nasser should have beat Yates in 1997 as well, based on photos.  However, in watching the video of the contest, it was clear that Nasser had no density to his physique.  When he turned to the side, it was over.  When he turned around, even worse.  Pictures don't tell the whole story. 

I realize if I had been there in person or seen a good video I may very well feel different.
Thx for your input.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Did Dorian retire just before "Palumboism" had a chance to set in? on: December 27, 2013, 09:58:55 PM
Dorian's left arm was gone in 1997. A torn bicep and an even worse
tear to the left tricep.
Dorian's arms in 1993 were quite excellent although some tend to disagree
but even the uninjured right arm by 1997 had diminished some in size.
JUST GOING BY PHOTOS I see no way Yates should have beat Nasser.
Yates was superior in the back shots but Nasser was more overwhelming
comparatively from the front than Yates was comparatively from the back.
I'm not a fan of Nasser's overall physique at all and I think the 1993 version
of Yates competitively is the top 2 or 3rd competition physique ever; BUT Nasser
should have beat Yates here. Please take a close look at the 1st picture.







9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: From the pages of FLEX Magazine on: December 21, 2013, 03:06:46 AM
Really?? Kai looks awkward as fuck! There's no flow to him ,a bunch of body parts thrown together

Only when he's in shape like 2012. Check the video link in my post.
Kai's midsection is much more appealing and he has better flow in quite a few poses.







10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: From the pages of FLEX Magazine on: December 21, 2013, 02:50:13 AM
Iceman - The highlighted stuff comes from Kai's comments in Generation Iron.
My advice to Kai would be come in as conditioned as possible like 2012 and hope
Phil has an off night. Anything can happen in those last 48 hours and like Dexter does;
if someones off, he's there to pick them off.
Kai's shape rivals Phil's and in some ways is better when he comes in like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED03dGi7UY8
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ronnie Coleman looks like shit. New Video with Jason Genova and Vitali on: December 21, 2013, 02:19:15 AM
 Ronnie's gut was bad 2002-2004 and he brought it down incredibly for 2005.
After that year he has always had it.
It could be visceral fat around the organs and underneath the skin.
Kind of like the skinny guy that's pretty lean but has a bulging beer belly.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: after ronnie coleman, why do current pros sacrifice aesthetics for mass? on: April 29, 2013, 12:47:04 AM

Listen to Lou from around 1:30 - 2:20 and he explains very well
what the majority audience wants to see.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxJQKXe1GI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxJQKXe1GI</a>
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Is Arnold getting younger? on: April 22, 2013, 09:20:20 PM

The last 10 years have been rough on Arnold.
Around 10 years ago when they made the Terminator 3 movie
he looked really good for a 54 year old. Stallone looks great for 65
if you ask me. Father time has not been as good to Arnold.
Pictures from around 10 years ago.
You don't stay or look young forever but one thing that will age your
skin is staying tan all the time and although Arnold is naturally pretty
white he spent most of his years with a decent to very golden tan.







Tanned Arnold around 35 yrs. old.


An older tanned Arnold


14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Is it some what disturbing? on: April 22, 2013, 08:38:29 PM

This is the 1st thing I thought of after reading your post.
From the movie Reign of Fire.
They kill their 1st Dragon and the whole village is celebrating.
Mathew M's character comes in on it and listen for yourself.
Start about 2 minutes 50 seconds in.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NfDyElZ3r0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NfDyElZ3r0</a>


 
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jay Cutler vs Phil Heath vs Roelly Winklaar arms on: April 22, 2013, 08:17:23 PM
Picture from just a couple of weeks ago. The best way to compare is side by side.
Jay is going to improve more than Phil will because of the lay off but at this
point Phil is easily ahead of Jay;
Especially in the delts.
After 2009, I'm not going to doubt what Jay can potentially bring come Olympia
time. but DO I think he will beat Phil or Kai? NO, Do I believe it's possible for him
to bring the freakiest package Jay has ever brought? Yes, If everything alligns right
he could bring the size of 2006 with the condition and shape of 2009.

If he does this he could win. Possible but not probable.  
Check out the difference in delt size in the photo
and then check out the 1st 2 minutes or so of what Ronnie brought at 40 yrs. old
at close to or reportably 300 pounds.

Click links below pictures for a much larger size.
2nd picture shows where Jay's delts need to come back to
and also I think this was Jay's best shape ever -possibly not condition
but the shape of his physique overall.




<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LyG8aGwOmM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LyG8aGwOmM</a>
 
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kai Greene - After his past, can he ever win the Olympia? on: April 19, 2013, 01:46:23 AM
Kai has packed more muscle on his body frame than Ron at his scale.

Kai has a completely different structure. He has bigger joints than Ronnie did
and Ronnie's detail is on another level than Kai's.
There's a reason Peter McGough said Ronnie was a walking anatomy chart this
year I'm posting from.
The side chest might be off a little on the scale but on the most muscular the arms
are almost the same size and Kai's head appears a tad bigger.
Anyway, not perfect scale but you get the point here.

17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Arnold vs Phil on: April 14, 2013, 10:25:13 PM
The reasons Arnold was so much lighter height for pound than today's guys are:

1. Today's guys have to build fairly large muscles in their glutes to get them striated.
The glutes are the largest muscle in the body and Arnold's weren't big.

2. The legs overall are much bigger today and that accounts for a lot of the extra weight.

3. Arnold had a peeled back but it wasn't super thick like a lot of top guys now.
(Although in 1974 his back was thicker than any other time in his career.)

4. The waists protrude which accounts for more unneeded weight.

Arnold just didn't carry a ton of muscle in the largest muscle groups; glutes, legs and back.

There are only a handful of guys that carried extreme mass with incredible aesthetics.
Arnold is one of them. The best example of a modern BB who had this trait is Levrone.

Arnold also is one of the best examples of a bodybuilder who just explodes when he poses.
Ronnie is a good example too early in his Olympia reign.
We all have seen bodybuilders that look awesome standing there but not much happens
when they start posing. Arnold was the antithesis of that.
Aesthetic Arnold:

18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who said LESUKOV could hang with the pros?? on: April 14, 2013, 07:33:20 AM

This kid started out looking like a miniature Arnold with a small
waist, peaked biceps and striations everywhere.
He has grown some but lost a lot of detail and has more of that
Juan Pierre Fux? look. (Not as bad but he's lost somethings that made
his physique special for a little extra size.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Arnold vs Phil on: April 14, 2013, 07:22:35 AM

No doubt Phil would beat Arnold but Arnold was from a different era
and was way ahead of his time. People mainly remember the 1975 Arnold
and 1980 Arnold but the 73-74 versions were in a different league than those
versions.

20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kai Greene: REASON WHY HE DIDN'T AND CAN'T WIN MR OLYMPIA on: April 08, 2013, 02:24:43 AM
the grapefruit is an inanimate object, but that dude's mouth... Lips sealed

i always wanted to believe Kai did it for the bitches in NYC.  Sad

I've always kinda pulled for Kai because of him being an underdog and
could look past the grapefruit thing BUT that was just depravity.
Who knows if that dude has Herpes in his mouth *and in public
*and on camera.
I've always thought Kai might be a little off BUT this kinda nails that
suspicion in the coffin. I guess his childhood really messed with his head.
I always though it strange too how he just dropped his mentor Oscar
and never even spoke to him again, even though Oscar considered Kai family.

WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN! I wished I had not seen this.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Current - Heath and Cutler on: April 06, 2013, 09:05:36 PM
Cutler has the width but Heath has that POP to his muscles.
If Cutler had the same thin skinned, vascular, striated muscularity  
in his upper body as he does his quads, he would be spoken in the same
regard as Yates and Coleman. Cutler's upper body has always lacked that
anatomy chart look that his legs do.
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Andre The Giant - in his prime, could someone defeat him in an MMA fight? on: April 06, 2013, 08:55:22 PM

Like someone mentioned earlier, use speed to get to the legs
to get them to the ground. If someone has a steel jaw and can take a hell of a punch
then you go for the temple. Tyson knocked out a few guys or more with temple shots.
Then there's always choking them out although with Andre you would most likely
need long arms.
Here's the closest scenario to this thread and it took a very skilled 230 pds. pudgy
Fedor 2 minutes to win.
Fedor is really a lightheavyweight that dominated the heavys
for a long time. By that I mean his structure and muscle mass is that of a 205 lightheavy
and the extra weight was not quality weight but he was so skilled for his time he constantly
beat bigger opponents. MMA has evolved though and in this day and age in the UFC he
would probably fight as a lightheavy if he was just starting his career now.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i0iZcLIrTQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i0iZcLIrTQ</a>
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Americans - Anyone here worried about North Korea? on: April 03, 2013, 05:16:10 PM
I think their leader is under 30 (very bad age for that kind of power)
28 yrs. old I think. He is trying to prove himself OR he is a psychopath
or both. Anyone, who could kill (nuke) 10's of thousands of people without
guilt is someone who needs to be erased from this earth. I'm not afraid to
die so I"m not worried about North Korea for myself but I am always concerned for
people in general and this guy will eventually have to be dealt with.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The Queen of female bodybuilding, Lenda Murray on: April 03, 2013, 05:04:47 PM
Lenda was the last female bodybuilder before it became toooo much
muscularity.
Lenda is still too muscular for my taste.
Cory was a beautiful woman but her sister Cameo was the BOMB.
Also, Rachel McLish was gorgeous. She had that perfect skin color,
beautiful dark hair and although she tried to play the good girl you
could tell she was trying. Met her in the 80's and even the way she
spoke was sexy. Although too light in muscle to really be considered
a pro bodybuilder, she was the perfect person to get the ball rolling for it.
Lenda in the 90's was about as far as they should have taken it and it
has slowly been dying ever since.

Cameo




Rachel


A mid-90's Rachel
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ronnie Coleman - in his prime, could someone defeat him in an MMA fight? on: April 01, 2013, 07:03:40 PM

I haven't read through this thread but muscle takes so much
oxygen Ronnie in his prime would be gassed very quick. This season
on TUF there's a guy at 185 who's pretty muscular but it affects his
cardio. Jon Jones talked about it, and it turned out to be true.
 It is possible to be fat like Roy Nelson and have good
cardio but every fighter that's had a lot of muscle mass has had
to lose quite a bit to get the conditioning needed for MMA.
Shane Carwin used to be huge when he first started but lost quite a bit of muscle mass.
(Still was a big guy though - Same with Brock compared to WWE.
Mark Coleman used to gas when he was champ because of his muscle mass.
I actually think muscle takes more oxygen then fat, that's why some chubby
guys have great cardio. I've never seen a hyper muscular guy with great
MMA cardio.
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