Tren Ace 700
Test Prop 500
EQ 1000

Agreed. Real men deadlift, and it's a better gauge for your strength than anything. All the hormones in your body just make you wanna pick up something heavy and that's why they're so fun for me.

who cares what he spends on drugs? everyone whos a pro or top amateur is a walking pharmacy. fuck off to bb.com and drink glutamine cum shakes if you gotta problem with real bodybuilding.

His upper body is so fucking dense... slabs of beef on top of slabs of beef. A lot of REAL muscle.

I've pinned everything before except Lats and Calves. The only muscles i'll use after experimenting with everything are delts(front/side/rear), biceps(inner/outer), quads, glutes. Hated traps/pecs/triceps.

Im doin Tren and EQ right now and really like it. Also low dose prop with it. I'm not a big oral user... only ever used anadrol once and halo twice... injectables are my thing. Im curious to know more about this... so he'd run tren 6 weeks on then how many weeks off? I prefer to run tren longer. since last summer ive been doing 12 weeks on 4 weeks off. that little break rejuvinates you and the tren hits you hard. this way i dont have to up my tren dose i can stick with 100mg ed

yup i agree with you bro. tren is great on its own for the look it gives you, but to grow its better to add 1 or 2 other hormones alongside the tren.

you'll get fat. dont do it.

it's not just for the water. mast provides an anti-e effect, yes, but mast creates a different dry look all around and shapes the physique with more separation. more hormones = more muscle

and i'd have no problems putting two full syringes in my ed. injects dont bother me one bit

hahaha x2

I was planning to cruise on test/eq while taking 4 weeks off tren, but cut it short at 3 weeks when i ended my 2 year relationship with my gf and started this the day of:

Tren Ace 700mg
EQ 900mg
Test Prop 300mg
Halo 20mg ED
T3 50mcg

... In other words, when going through shit, i'd rather put it behind me and look forward into something better and focus on me

i think that would work real well dude! test prop/tren ace/npp/mast prop would be pretty powerful

I find eq makes me hold a slight bit more water than without it, same for npp i believe happens. it's not a big bloat, just a slight film that i didnt have when just on prop/tren ace

gh15:

"depend what you want,,, you want to appear bigger to the eye? you want to be more shredded to the eye? you want to not only say you are large lean mean cut and squary with volume....butt actualy look like that? if you want to actualy lok like that ...ALWAYS TRENBOLONA

equipona ,, nppiona all the rest make you hold some water that take away from the squar 6% effortless look that trenbolona put you in ...so its alwys better higher dose of trenbolona ....now if you dont care being 8%...then whatevr you want

you will learn that no matter what ....even if you get 5-6 more lb on scale from the equipona...the actual muscle wont look the same due to more water held...and when more water held....the squary cartoonish japanease animation look is gone bye bye ...it will be close but not quite,,

always trenblona should be prefered....the others should be added too if you know how to work them into the look you want ,, it really depends what you want ....i can garentee you that with 900mg equiopona  + 700 mg trenbolona you wotn be able to get the dry look that 700mg trenblona will give you by itself...you will be fuller and little heavier on scale....but when you take pictures of yourself you will see that when you were on trenbollona and masterona you look better than when you were on trenblona and equipona....you were leaner and larger LEAN MUSCLE  that is !

gh15 approved"

yup 1mg arimidex dropped a bit of water. im around 8% depending on the day and sodium intake, but it was noticeable. i eat like shit so i care about staying lean, but dont care about staying dry.

only time in my life i used something was recently after finishing some tren i took arimidex for 30 days. nips started to get sensitive on the tren after 10 weeks so by week 12 i started it. all better.

i know these are recent pics where his dosage is lowered, but damn he shrunk a lot fast. chest and traps still look huge but its like his shoulders dropped off completely. normally his shoulders are what stand-out the most and have that huge squarey look to them in the offseason like in this pic below. seems like the waist, chest, traps stayed and the delts left.

big calves are just a cool show piece. theyre the least important muscle when it comes to how well you place imo

I'm a fan of Kuclo. Seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders, another Phil Heath type bb. Married to a cute girl, works an actual job for a living rather than living off someone else/spreading his cheeks, well spoken, no ego, good build for generation nothingness standards.

x2 no tren, no bodybuild.

you go off tren you see negative changes daily, you get back on tren you see positive changes daily. its THE game changer

All at once

THIS!

All day long

gh15 is my lord and savior. without him, i'd still be searching for the truth.

Makes sense, he lost 43lbs and still had another 10lbs to go atleast for top conditioning... tons of water in the legs from the rear and lower back.

I know BLP is in MTL, but i thought he did the toronto and then the ontarios?

This guy competed in the 80's and 90's on the national level, never got a pro card. He did the Nationals and USA's a combined 12 times, and was around a lot of the pro's back then. He told me he was friends with Vince in the mid 90's and that the guy relied on his genetics and drugs for everything, basically another Paul Dillet. Always trained consistently, but never pushed himself that hard or followed much of a diet. He said he was around Vince for his prep for one of the Arnolds and that he basically ate 3 times a day. For breakfast he'd have eggs and bacon, then do his morning workout, then eat a burger and drink regular coke, go back and train later, then another meal and at night he'd have scotch or rum if he felt like it. Said Vince trained twice a day and 6 days a week. 12-15 sets per bodypart, moderate reps never going to failure. Then he told me about drugs and said that this was one area vince was completely anal about. Never missed a shot ever and always did it the same time everyday. Loved shooting his arms and calves the most. He said the guy loved parabolan, anadrol, gh...  I don't know what his whole cycle looked like but here's the numbers he was telling me that vince was running a month out

Sustanon 1250mg Per Week
Test Prop 1000mg Per Week
EQ 1800mg Per Week
Parabolan 228mg ED
Masteron 200mg ED
Anadrol 200mg ED
T3/Clen/Ephedrine(didn't mention doses just the use of them)
GH 18iu ED

Said after this point he'd start lowering his test big time and bring his mast and para dosages up. I asked him about synthol because i've heard ppl accuse Vince of it before, but he said no synthol just site injects. Never went crazy with diuretics but always used them.