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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: Today at 07:42:52 AM
What's funny is I think these guys are trying their best to demonstrate accountability. I guess they haven't quite nailed it yet...perhaps the next one will go better.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I wanna learn a manly martial art - but not MMA -- advice please on: August 21, 2014, 11:27:29 PM
kenpo is pretty good
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hugh Jackman deadlifts 400 pounds! on: August 21, 2014, 03:44:09 PM
396lbs  Grin
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 02:56:48 PM
I believe the answer is one that's all too common - The cop is lying.  He's not making up the entire scenario, but changing the facts to suit his needs.  Even his own lackeys can't keep the mistruths straight.....

He would have good reason to

there is usually a very simple answer to most questions
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
The witnesses said he was gunned down from the back.  The report said, "could be a shot from the rear" but considering the rest of the grouping shots is from the front its likely the shot also came from the front.

How do you know the reports are conveying falsehoods?  Aren't you jumping to that conclusion?  If the witnesses contradict the evidence and each other you have to at least suspect the witnesses statements aren't accurate.  Why do you immediately assume the reports are wrong and there is a conspiracy afoot? 

It's possible that the reports are accurate with the exception of this one aspect. Not likely though, given that this is such a central component of the narrative it calls into question all the information from that source.

6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 02:37:26 PM
They are both consistent in saying he was assaulted and injuries suffered by the officer back that up.  Why be particular about variations now.  Didn't you believe without question  the conflicting witnesses who said among other things that brown was shot exclusively in the back?

the forensic expert said there's a shot on the arm that could be from the rear...not me...you don't run with palms forward like an anatomical diagram...anyway

So we can come to one of several conclusions about the sources but we do know one thing:

One of the reports is conveying a falsehood about a central aspect of the story.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
How does that matter?  He was assaulted and felt it was likely he would be assaulted again.

It's a concern because they cannot both be true simultaneously.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
Are you saying the Officer was not on the receiving end of a beating, (including a struggle for his gun) which would authorize the use of lethal force?  Huh

what we have is a situation where both sources claim the Officer was beaten but under radically different circumstances.
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 01:41:48 PM
You have confused yourself. It was stated that he got a call on the radio of suspect's description of a strong arm robbery. This was apparently after the jaywalking incident. I believe the dispatch was posted here a few pages back.

here's is what fox (Hollie McKay) is reporting:

According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said.

“They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that’s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face."
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 01:38:40 PM
It's really not up to "us" to figure it out. We can speculate, we can opine, we can guess, we can even change the title of this thread from discuss the facts and truth to something more fitting, but I'll wait until the investigation(s) are done before concluding anything

This is good practice.

Maybe we can get an someone from fox news to explain in the meantime. Smiley
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 01:20:18 PM
somebody needs to help me out with the story

his "friend/wife" says wilson was responding to the robbery

the "police insider" says wilson was responding to them jaywalking

what is the final version of this story?

How can a "highly placed source" claim to know "dozens of witnesses" corroborate wilson's story when it doesn't match up with his own wife's testimony?    Shocked

I'll leave it up to you guys to figure that one out.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
minor update

I would give the leaks about wilson's story more weight if they weren't coming from the blog's and junior entertainment writers simply repeating anonymous hearsay but for fun we can look at them anyway.

I noticed something curious - let me know if I misunderstood

There is a significant deviation between the two accounts of Darren Wilson's story....one from the "friend/wife" and one from the "police insider" ...the story's don't jive with each other...hmmmm

somebody needs to help me out with the story

his "friend/wife" says wilson was responding to the robbery

the "police insider" says wilson was responding to them jaywalking

what is the final version of this story?
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 10:30:36 AM
minor update

I would give the leaks about wilson's story more weight if they weren't coming from the blog's and junior entertainment writers simply repeating anonymous hearsay but for fun we can look at them anyway.

I noticed something curious - let me know if I misunderstood

There is a significant deviation between the two accounts of Darren Wilson's story....one from the "friend/wife" and one from the "police insider" ...the story's don't jive with each other...hmmmm
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 21, 2014, 09:11:39 AM
Advocating personal responsibility is key to maintaining freedom.

chickens are coming home to roost - change is coming

15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Torn bicep on: August 20, 2014, 09:12:17 PM


 Angry
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 20, 2014, 08:44:54 PM
You make excuses for barbaric behavior.  Your excuse making has only made the problems in these communities worse by treating them like children who aren't responsible for their actions.   

you sir are a freedom hater
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Naturals and Their Jealousy on: August 20, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
handsome face no homo
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 1890 Russian Pioneers of the Bob Chick Stretching Method on: August 20, 2014, 07:36:44 PM
just a couple pole smokers with badass haircuts
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 20, 2014, 07:15:49 PM
At least I understand some things.  You don't understand anything.  You just regurgitate the same pat answers as every other person who doesn't want to take the time to think for themselves. 

you seem like a nice earnest guy which i appreciate. Unfortunately you are severely misguided.

getbiggers will not allow the truth to be brutalized with such wanton disregard
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I got some creatine. That I ordered. That I will eat. That will make me stronger on: August 20, 2014, 06:28:15 PM
Women will only make you weak in the knees. I practice abstinence while on my liquid creatine and also abstain from masturbation because it reduces ATP. Guys, listen to my advices.  

vasodilation will make you a tyrannosaurus so this is the...uh hard part

 
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 20, 2014, 06:04:15 PM
I understand the big picture.  You're just providing cover for lawlessness and mediocrity.  People such as yourself like to hand wave the situation away with a simple, its economics, and then go about your day.  The alternative is to demand people be responsible for their actions and that's a whole lot harder.  I doubt you have every lived in a black neighborhood in your life.  There's a church on every corner.  There is no excuse for the behavior being demonstrated in these communities.

you don't understand much

I will leave it to TrueGrit etc. to tear you another new orifice

thx for your input!  Cool
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I got some creatine. That I ordered. That I will eat. That will make me stronger on: August 20, 2014, 05:30:09 PM
hey newbie you don't eat creatine, you DRINK it

dissolve in warm water then pray for your digestive tract
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 20, 2014, 05:06:02 PM
No you don't.  Claiming economics causes violence is another attempt to externalize responsibility.  People know right from wrong and they choose to do wrong.  You are providing them with an excuse.  Those in poverty who are committing crimes aren't committing crimes for the benefit of their families, only themselves.  They aren't stealing a loaf of bread or gallon of milk to feed their starving children. The government pays for that.  They are murdering, robbing and raping purely for personal gratification, as a form of sadistic sport.

this is an inflammatory oversimplification. I understand you have strong feelings about it but you have failed to come to grips with big picture therefore you cannot be taken seriously.

24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 20, 2014, 04:41:32 PM
Which jury? The Grand Jury? No, the Grand Jury is the grou of people decides whether to indict someone. A prosecutor cannot act without the Grand Jury issuing a true bill. If, and only if, they do then that person is indicted, and goes to trial, where a new, indepedent jury is empaneled (unless the defendant chooses to waive his right to a jury trial).


They evaluate whatever evidence the prosecutor decides to present.

Yes indeed sorry Grand Jury.  Thanks for clarifying Smiley

I would assume it would be rare for the grand jury to turn around on the prosecutor and not issue the "true bill" ...?
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Michael Brown - Discuss the facts and the truth on: August 20, 2014, 03:43:23 PM
They sure played it as white vs. black.

I think they are playing this as black vs. White cop.

Do you guys remember Rodney King?

I do however remember that controversy not too long ago, where people claimed white cops shot a black man in the back of a police car? Where there riots then?

Is this the frustration bubbling over?

you need to look at the economics to make sense of it
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