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19551  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Where is God in Suffering? (interesting email I received) on: June 20, 2006, 12:07:37 PM
I agree.  Although I would have worded it a little differently.    Smiley

Maybe just a little Grin
19552  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: GODISNOWHERE on: June 20, 2006, 12:05:11 PM
uh oh!  I initially saw "God is nowhere." Sad



 yet those who do believe in God see miracles everyday. 

But I'm in this group for sure! Cheesy
19553  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007 on: June 20, 2006, 12:00:02 PM
Leave me alone.

I'm grouchy.

I think I have P.M.S.

Freak Angry

It's OK, honey.  Have some chocolate.  It will make you feel better Smiley


Meanwhile HELLO Laura!  You WILL DO a thread like MIke did!  Angry  Your "before" pictures have been posted above and they look great anyway!  So,  just say YES to the new "The Road to Compete" thread Grin       
19554  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Banned from Mayhem's Politics/Religion forum. on: June 17, 2006, 09:50:38 PM
I don't either. To each their own. It's just that usually the religious folks have the "holier than thou" attitude and pass judgement on everyone else, without looking at themselves first.

The people w/this outlook should read Matthew 7:3-5:  "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?  How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?  You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Which is cool.

They feel 'holier'...I just think they're funnier, especially when the Baptists start trying to convince me that *all* the Jews are going to "Hell", no matter what.  And don't get me started on the Mormons...

Tre, I am a Christian and I don't feel "holier" than anyone.  In fact, I feel "less holy" than anyone.  Most sins I commit that I'm aware of (and there are many) don't make me feel "holy" at all.  I KNOW I can't be "holy" of my own power.  My (still) daily sins reinforce my feeling for need of a savior.   

And whatever Baptists are telling you that "*all* the Jews are going to "Hell" are full of crap (pardon my language Undecided). 


Let me tell you.

I know this chick, who is married. She is of course smarter, better lookin', morally correct, holier than thou, etcetera. Well, I just found out this bitch is cheating on her husband, and its not the first time. Yet this bitch has the nerve to act and think that she's better than everybody else. Always preaching and passing judgement on others. Even better, she had to have an abortion last week, because the baby wasn't her husbands.  Roll Eyes

Typical religious hypocrite.

I know a person almost just like this.  He used to visit my husband at work and say "So what are you doing for the Lord?"  Meanwhile he was carrying on a 2-year affair w/a woman he worked with!  Dude still makes me mad every time I see him Angry  But please don't look at the people that claim to follow Christ (because we are all imperfect failures at doing so), just investigate Christ's life as provided by the scriptures. 

He was the perfect example.  The rest of us suck.
19555  Getbig Womens Area / Figure, Bikini and Fitness Discussions / Re: 2006 NPC Jr Nats on: June 17, 2006, 09:27:01 PM
Thanks Gene Smiley She looks great!  Do you have any shots of Randi Post?
19556  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Learning Thread *Seventh Day Adventists* on: June 17, 2006, 01:20:13 PM
Interesting, Beach Bum.  Thanks for all this info you are providing!

Sometimes I see a 7th Dayer on TV and he really talks a lot about End Time Bible Prophecy.  Are most 7th Dayers highly interested in this? 

I'm interested in it.  But it seems like several of our Christian friends just don't think about it or don't want to.
19557  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Learning Thread *Seventh Day Adventists* on: June 17, 2006, 07:12:50 AM
They are a "Protestant" religion and have many beliefs and practices that are consistent with "mainstream" Christian religions:  belief in the Trinity, use of the Bible, etc.  Some of the major differences are:

- Their Sabbath.  They keep what many people call "the Jewish Sabbath" from Sunday Friday to sundown Saturday.  This comes from the Fourth Commandment, which in turn comes from the Genesis creation story (rested on the on seventh day, etc.). 

- State of the dead.  They don't believe in ghosts or the "soul" as a separate person.  So, when a person dies, they're done till "Jesus comes."  They also believe that no one is currently burning in hell or that people's "souls" go to heaven when they die. 

- Diet.  They follow the Old Testament guidelines about "clean" vs. "unclean" meats.  I think it's discussed in Leviticus.

Ozmo would probably consider them "literalists" in many respects.   Smiley   


Beach Bum, we have a mailing ministry and sometimes get stuff from 7th Dayer's that are really focused on "keeping the Sabbath" and making sure people know they think the true Sabbath is really (mainly) on Saturday.  Is this a huge deal for all 7th Dayers?  If so, why do you think it is?
19558  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: delete on: June 16, 2006, 07:58:57 PM
Ahhhhh....after sifting through the initial (yet inevitable) sewage, the new and purified Re: delete shall reign once again.

And I trust YoMamaBeenLurking will not disappoint Angry

Sorry Quickerblade! We love you but you had your chance.......  Smell ya later!   
19559  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Salvation eternal? on: June 16, 2006, 08:26:01 AM
I threw this out to STella for an opinion and thought it might be cool to get some views on the subject.

Once salvation and the gift of eternal life are give to us by God can we loose it?? If we renounce God and his works as figments of our imagination or any other reason- does God punish us by taking the gift away and sending nonbelievers to the lake of fire???

What punishment do those whos views change to nonbeliever get for their lack of faith. If God so gracious that he forgives them totally and they stand with the righteous on judgement day? Is their a purgatory like place for those people??

Thoughts anyone?

I believe that if someone is truly saved at some point in their life, their salvation is eternally secure. 

Heb 7:24,25:  "but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood.  Therefore he is able to save completely (the word used here means permanently) those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them."

1John 2:1:  "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin.  But if anyone does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense - Jesus Christ the Righteous One."

Romans 8:38,39:  ................"neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

So if someone is truly saved, there is nothing they can do to lose their salvation IMO.  Maybe their "punishment" other than having a possibly less peaceful or less fulfilling life will be that when they get to heaven their rewards will be fewer (but we cast all of our crowns at Jesus' feet anyway). 

I personally don't believe in any type of "purgatory" in the modern day.  I think this idea came from before Christ died and rose again where people were dead but the believers were not yet resurrected (although they still don't have their glorified bodies) into heaven w/him be cause he was the "first."......but that's a whole diff. subject!

19560  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: 99% of women are sinning! on: June 16, 2006, 07:18:15 AM
Stella every coed I nail believes in god. Also every girlfriend I ever had sex with as a teen was the same. My question is why do these girls practise religion at their own convenience. As a very religious person would you frown on these women?

No, I'm not going to frown on them.  I've got my own problems. 

1   Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3   But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4   Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5   But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6   For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
7   For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8   For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
9   Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
10   For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
11   Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12   For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
13   Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
14   Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15   But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

Basically it says don't cut your hair if you are a woman or you are sinning.




Well, I don't know but just for info here is what my study bible says about those verses:

11:5 Prays or prophesies.  In light of what he says in 14:34-35, it is doubtful that Paul approved of those activities by the women at Corinth.  He simply acknowledges that these were unauthorized practices.  with her head uncovered.  Women should be veiled or covered in the meeting of the church, and men should not.  Paul's reasons were based on theology (headship v.3), the order in creation (vv.7-9), and the presence of angels in the meeting (v.10).  None of these reasons was based on contemporary social custom.  shaved.  A sign of disgrace.

11:15  long hair is given to her as a covering.  This is not the same word as that used in vv 5-6.  The point here is that as the hair represents the proper covering in the natural realm, so the veil is the proper covering in the religious.

I don't know if that helps at all or not  Huh
19561  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Does Mike Arvilla get competitor stars now? on: June 14, 2006, 05:52:26 AM
Yes - you need to prove it to me, I need to know who you are, which is pretty easy if you have nothing to hide.  People who actually compete in a show deserve recognition. Because they are the ones who contribute to the sport the most.



What if my show was 2 years ago? Tongue

What will that do to my "Special Guest" stars? Grin
19562  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The reason Kamali didn't talk about Shawn on: June 13, 2006, 06:47:57 AM
Telling truth can't be slander.  

But it can be regarded as defamation.  We know this first-hand.  It depends on your judge or arbitration panel.  My faith in the system is IN THE TOILET. Angry

Meanwhile, could someone supply the link to the download please?  Thank you Smiley
19563  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: 99% of women are sinning! on: June 12, 2006, 02:20:17 PM


No Stella, you are non-judgemental and seem very graceful with you opinions and responses to others. 



Thanks for saying that OzmO.  That's how I hope I come off. Smiley

OK, back to the thing about the long hair in 1Cor 11:1-15.  I'm confused on what your question is?
19564  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007 on: June 10, 2006, 10:59:23 PM
Psychology Major or frequent viewer of Dr. Phil?

Neither.  But did I miss a "fight" between you all?  Or did the present animosity begin recently? 


It really seems like TA and Jezebelle would have a lot in common w/Laura and Mike and I don't understand the fighting.
19565  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007 on: June 10, 2006, 10:52:34 PM
hahahah.

So by that same rationale that would mean that you aren`t allowed to critique a movie after watching it because you have never acted in one?

Is this what I am hearing?

Hi.  I may be too new or have missed something important, but TA, why do you have such a bad feeling for Cheri and Mike?   


19566  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007 on: June 10, 2006, 09:58:05 PM
YAY!!!  GREAT JOB MIKE! 

You did wonderfully and should be quite pleased!  Enjoy your time of eating whatever you want and knowing that your body will hate it so much that it will just shoot it all  right out w/o retaining many calories at all. Grin

Completing the diet is quite a feat, but getting on stage and doing what you did is yet another!  YOU ROCK BRO! Cheesy

Congratulations my friend.  Love to you and Laura Smiley
19567  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007 on: June 10, 2006, 01:04:29 PM
Laura, thanks so much for posting these!  Mike looks great!

....and so does Mrs. LLES!
19568  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Stella? on: June 09, 2006, 08:46:27 PM
How dare you.

 Grin


You so crazy.  Bast, behave yourself before someone reports your 25 gimmick accounts! Smiley
19569  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Pictures of Members & More / Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007 on: June 09, 2006, 08:17:29 PM
MIKE! 

You are looking great!  Thank you SO MUCH for doing this thread.  I'm sure you've already seen how many people you've motivated.   Cheesy

You look fantastic!  Have a great time and know there are hundreds of us thinking about and rooting for you!


Laura, not to impose, but I need minute by minute reporting for the prejudging.  I'm sure that's not a problem  Wink  Minute by Minute.....you've got that right? Angry

THANKS LUV Grin
19570  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: 99% of women are sinning! on: June 09, 2006, 03:17:07 PM
There are plenty of passages i disagree with.  That's not the point. What interestes me is how people justify going against what the bible says. 
For example "i'm not Jewish" therefor i don't have to abide by it.  Well then by that logic it's ok to go against the 10 commandments.

AND we still haven't talked about what was said in 1 Cor. about long hair and women.  Was that a jewish thing too?

My point is:  99% of People and Churches interpet the Bible to their liking not to it's literal meaning and becuase of that their doctrine is tainted.  And when these peolple who condem others for not following the bible when in fact they don't either makes them not "genuine".   



I learned of this passage from a pastor who is a very close friend at a church where they take the Bible literally.

EVERY person who belongs to that church follows it.  10-12 years ago i spent a year going to that church and spending lots of time with these people.

Well, the 10 commandments are covered pretty well in the New Testament so I do think they apply to me.

OzmO, what was that scripture in 1Cor?  And is that the passage you're talking about that you're saying those people follow?

And when these peolple who condem others for not following the bible when in fact they don't either makes them not "genuine".   



Are you talking about me here?  I hope I've never "condemn[ed] others for not following the bible."  I can't live my life as it says I should myself.  If I have condemned anyone (I don't remember but I certainly hope I haven't) for not living the way the bible suggests, I sincerely apologize. Embarrassed
19571  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: 28% of People Believe the Bible literally on: June 09, 2006, 03:06:02 PM
I'm sure you are right about that, but most don't believe it literally.  A good example, is Stella, (no disrespect intended).

None taken OzmO! Smiley

I do take it pretty literally in general, but there are places where it is obviously not meant to be taken literally.  For instance, "if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out."  The intention is not really for people to gouge out there eyes!  Can you imagine?  Every man on earth and most of the women would have empty eyeball holes Tongue
19572  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: 28% of People Believe the Bible literally on: June 09, 2006, 12:16:18 PM
agreed

Migs, I'm really surprised to see you post this Huh
19573  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Stella? on: June 09, 2006, 12:12:51 PM
Dear Bast175, Bast000, Mark Apollo,

What do you mean "ALL" the anti-religion stickies?"

I unstickied the stickies that hadn't been posted on in awhile which included a couple "Learning Threads." 

I think the only "anti-religion" one was the "Errors and Nonsense in the Bible" one.

I felt there were too many stickys.  I'll resticky it if it comes back to life.   That would indicate people are still interested in it. 

You know how to bring it back to life, right Bast, Bast, Mark?   Grin

19574  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Can you live your life to Jesus and still be on the Sauce? on: June 09, 2006, 09:47:06 AM

 hermeneutics

I had to look this word up! Embarrassed


  If I want to know about Christianity I’ll turn to a more informed source than a bodybuilder prostituting himself for a few dollars. 


I think that's a wise positition to take.  The best source IMO, is to read the bible yourself.  Smiley
19575  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: 99% of women are sinning! on: June 09, 2006, 09:42:28 AM
So even though it says "an abomination to the lord thy god"  (it doesn't say AGAINST THE LAW) you consider this a old law that you don't need to follow?  Isn't the Bible the word of God?  And he's telling you, you are disrepecting him BIG time if you do that?  So some or all those things in the OT don't apply?  Seems convienient.  Seems like we are picking a choosing.

No, I'm saying that law doesn't apply to me since I am not Jewish.

But for those to whom it does apply, perhaps the meaning is more in the clothing specifically made for men or women.  For instance, a man wearing a bra would probably be frowned upon by God, but blue jeans are really a unisex item of apparel.  See what I mean Vern? Smiley
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