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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: April 16, 2014, 05:59:44 PM
Here, again, for posterity is what Delores Simmons, a creature that looks human but has the intellectual capacity of a partially used toilet paper roll, a creature who lives believes that her fears and beliefs justify censorship and that anyone who speaks something that she does not approve ought to be censored.

“If we allow this Tyson to keep publicly airing his beliefs, God just may strike us down with a cosmic meteor this summer.  That would be ironic justice if you ask me, so we should just take this show off now before that happens.”

This, ladies and gentlemen, is proof that the mentality that gave us the Inquisition and resulted in the burning of witches is still alive and well. Luckily not all Christians are like that, but, sadly, some are.

So this is my reply to Delores Simmons, and I do very much hope she will read it.

Miss Simmons,

You are a censorious asshole and it offends me to know that you are not only an American but a human being. You are a douchebag and a hypocrite.

A douchebag who feels that her beliefs - beliefs that she cannot rationally justify or prove or even cogently articulate - and her fears justify censoring those who can rationally justify their positions.

And a hypocrite because you happily avail yourself to modern conveniences, conveniences that the people who you wish to burn at the stake have helped bring to you, and which you were unable to conceive or create yourself.

Fuck you, you un-American piece of shit.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Chelsea Clinton might be running for public office. Birther issue? on: April 14, 2014, 07:36:27 PM
Webb Hubble looks like a clone of Chelsea - just saying

As I said, bring Maury Povich in! We can't afford to have anyone other than the best on this very important and hugely important matter.
3  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Conspiracy Theories Board / Re: Proof US staging False Flag to start WWIII on: April 14, 2014, 07:30:54 PM
Ukrainian Payoff to Obama made in Gold

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The way I see it,

24KT... you have worse visual acuity than a glass eye that's sitting on a countertop, inside a black box. On top of that, you have the intellectual capacity of dead plankton. You don't see anything.

perhaps maybe the USA might be able to get back on schedule for paying Germany back?

Yeah, because if the USA doesn't "pay Germany back" Germany will do what exactly? Roll Eyes

...or they might simply keep it in an effort to stave off the collapse of their own currency,

Or... maybe they'll use it to buy all the coffee at Tim Horton's and then what, eh?

...or they might just go for broke, dumping it on the market to drive the price of gold down, prior to their much longed for war.

LOL... the price of gold. Haven't you moved on to selling mail-order tampons made from the rare sea cucumbers of Fiji or marketing "investment-grade" hot air?
4  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: Paul Craig Roberts - Why The Coming Collapse will be so Horrific on: April 14, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
Paul Craig Roberts - Why The Coming Collapse will be so Horrific
April 12, 2014

Oh man, I'd hold my breath, but I'm still holding it from the last time you posted an article about an imminent collapse...
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Chelsea Clinton might be running for public office. Birther issue? on: April 14, 2014, 07:12:03 PM

I don't think Bill is the father.  That other guy Hillary was having affair with looks just like the father.  Webb I think his name was or something

Oh, well... if some obsessed idiot on the Internet that can't open a water bottle thinks Bill is not the Father, then that's a big deal indeed! Quick, bring Maury Povich in!
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Police State - Official Thread on: April 14, 2014, 07:09:59 PM

The best officer in the department. I don't doubt that. Not for a minute.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Police State - Official Thread on: April 10, 2014, 12:48:32 AM
The Fleming case is pure insanity. I need to do a search on Lexis to read the decision of the Judge who "brushed aside" the allegations of perjury and let the conviction stand.

It's a pity that ADAs enjoy what is, in essence, absolute immunity even if their actions are blatant misconduct because a whoever prosecuted this case ought to be disbarred and prosecuted, along with the detectives involved in this investigation.

8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: April 10, 2014, 12:28:33 AM
My opinions on this website are worth the paper they are written on, just like yours and everyone else who posts here.

No, I don't care to read about an experiment that did not create life in a lab that mimicked the origin of life on earth.  

This is not a debate.  It's a discussion.  And no, I'm not going to play the Clinton-esque "it depends on what the definition of is, is" game.  I know what life means.  So do you.  If you're unclear about what life means, you can use a dictionary or use a "Google search."  

You can suggest all you want.  It hasn't been proved.  It hasn't been established using the accepted scientific methods.  

But the point is that you don't even know what the "accepted scientific method" even is. I show you an experiment that has, beyond question, proven that the building blocks of life - large folder protein structures - can emerge from simple elements. You say that's meaningless because it didn't create life.

So I ask you what you define as life. You refuse to answer claiming that we all know what life is. Perhaps we do, but we need to both be on the same page if we're going to discuss this topic. Tell me the one defining characteristic that allows me to distinguish something that is alive from something that isn't.

You claim to want evidence based on nothing but science, but you confuse science and the scientific method as synonymous with "Nu-Uh!" and "prove some more." It is not. Moreover, despite being the polar opposite of an expert on the topic, you ignore and dismiss the findings, explanations and evidence of those who actually are. Why? Because it doesn't jive with your preconceived notions and beliefs. Your own words prove that you aren't interested in learning, understanding or critically evaluating: you're just interested in supporting and defending your beliefs and are uninterested in facts and objective reality.

You're like Kent Hovind – another intellectually dishonest moron, in a long line of intellectually dishonest morons so deluded that when reality walks up to you and slaps you across the face with a trout nothing registers. A moron who openly admits that his opinion is immutable, present or future facts be damned.

And having established that you are an intellectually dishonest moron, this debate – pardon me, this discussion – is over, because dealing with you and your brothers-in-spirit is pointless.

9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: April 09, 2014, 12:39:38 AM
I'm not trying to "decree what is and is not scientific," nor do I care about qualifications.  Nobody needs to be "qualified" to talk about stuff on a message board.

Funny, since you just finished telling us what science is not too long ago... and no, you don't have to be qualified to talk about stuff and offer your opinion, but unless you are slightly qualified you will make a fool of yourself and, perhaps of more interst to you, you will find out exactly how much your opinions are worth.

In any event, did this "Miller-Urey experiment" create life in a lab?

Perhaps if you'd care to read up on it (a Google search takes you to Wikipedia) you'd see what the experiment did and did not do.

By the way, I don't like debating when the terms of the debate aren't established. Please proceed to define "life" so that we can have a common frame of reference and a sensible conversation without goal shifting.

Isn't "abiogenesis" the theory of spontaneous generation?  And are you suggesting that theory has been tested?

I am suggesting that evidence has been presented (see the Miller-Urey experiment I previously mentioned) that complex proteins (the "building blocks of life") which we know are needed for life as we know it to exist, can spontaneously form in the conditions that were likely to have existed billions of years ago based on our cosmological observations.

10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: April 08, 2014, 01:05:55 AM
Sort of a trick question.  There are no scientific theories about the origin of life (using the accepted scientific method I outlined earlier.)

Not true - there are theories and at least one experiment has been devised that produced results consistent with predictions made from that theory (see the Miller-Urey experiment, for instance).

Just because you either don't like that theory and its implications (or perhaps because you are unaware of them) doesn't make the theory any less scientific. Nor, for that matter, are you particularly qualified to decree what is and is not scientific.

Is it possible those theories are wrong? Sure it is - falsifiability is as the core of scientific inquiry; incremental improvements of existing theories and radical new theories have cropped up as a result of new evidence surfacing.

I'll ask you the same question I asked Ozmo:  What is your belief about how life began on day 1? 

Far be it from me to answer for Ozmo, but I think that the evidence very strongly points to abiogenesis.
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Dennis Wolf has a cool daughter on: April 08, 2014, 12:39:36 AM
Wider than Heath and better calves than Wolf.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Biden's chances in 2016... Are people underestimating him? on: April 04, 2014, 06:53:13 PM
I was talking to someone about this other day in the context of mandatory retirement ages in some jobs.  I don't agree with that at all.

I don't believe in mandatory retirement ages for elected positions, but I do support term limits for the Office of the President; it wouldn't take much to convince me that we should have term limits for members of Congress either. While generally I think that people should be able to vote for what they want, the power of the incumbency has grown and we have assholes that get elected and grow roots. Not a good thing.

Typically, the older you get, the wiser and more experienced you get.  A person probably has more immediate value to an organization when they are near the end of their career than the beginning.

While that may be true to a certain extent, the facts are that people's mental acuity and abilities do decline. Which is why 70 and 80 year old CEOs are the exception and not the rule.

Overall, I have no problem at all with a someone in their 70s or 80s being president if they are healthy enough to serve.

Health is only one component, and it's not even the most important one. Mental acuity is where it's at. Most people showcase significant decline in their early '70s.

We Supreme Court Justices a lifetime appointment.  No logical distinction between a healthy 75 year old justice and a healthy 75 year old president IMO.

There's a difference: the difference is that the Justice is appointed for life, not elected for a limited term. You may as well argue that there's no distinction between an 16 year old dog and an 16 year old McDonalds cheeseburger.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Biden's chances in 2016... Are people underestimating him? on: April 04, 2014, 08:00:16 AM
I also agree he's too old. 

But Repubs said mccain was just fine when he was the same age in 2008.

Blindly partisan people will say anything.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Biden's chances in 2016... Are people underestimating him? on: April 04, 2014, 01:14:26 AM
Seriously? Joe Biden?

For the sake of this discussion, let's completely ignore his political positions. With that out of the way, I'll grant you that he's got a good political "résumé": 36 years in the Senate and eight years as a VP: no matter how you cut, slice or dice it, he's got considerable experience both in the legislative and the executive branch, he is a seasoned politician and seems to be relatively smart. It seems like he'd be a great choice!

Except he wouldn't:

First of all, the man has a penchant for sticking his foot in his foot - so much so that his tongue has athlete's foot. Is that a quality we want in a President? Didn't we learn anything from Bushisms?

Additionally, if he were elected to the Presidency in the 2015 elections he'd be 75 when he would be sworn in - that's older than Ronald Reagan was when he was reelected. Even if he's in excellent health, do we really want an old man in the Office of the President - someone born in the first half of the 20th century when we're well into the 21st?

Again, this has nothing to do with Biden's political beliefs and positions on the issues: I disagree with almost all his positions but I don't think that's relevant for this analysis.
15  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: He is senile on: March 30, 2014, 06:04:14 PM
I am embarrassed to have this man represent my country. 

I am embarrassed to have him represent my State. And he's been trying to get his son, Rory, elected to Congress too...
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Police State - Official Thread on: March 30, 2014, 10:52:39 AM
Textbook cop douchebaggery and abuse under the color of authority:
17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Police State - Official Thread on: March 24, 2014, 11:01:31 PM

Wow... you know what else is likely to "have some negative effects"? Accessing the FBI database without a legal reason. Abusing people under the color of authority. And, lest we forget, being an arrogant and pompous asshole.

Kudos to the Chief for his unequivocal statement in support of the First Amendment.
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: God will heal your kidney failure on: March 24, 2014, 05:15:47 PM
In essence, what makes my brand of faith unique?  

The foundation of my faith is found in Jesus Christ’s life, death and resurrection.  The proof of my solid foundation of faith is found in the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in me that came about by faith.   This same proof of God can be experienced and understood by anyone that humbly desires to know God and simply beliefs in his act on Calvary’s cross.

But how is that quantifiably any different from other people's faith in something else? The answer is it's not. And there's nothing wrong with that, but the fact is that you cannot prove that the particular rituals of your faith are any more effective than the rituals of some other randomly chosen faith or even of a faith that I just made up on the spot.

God’s revelatory acts are based on his terms, not ours.  Everyone wants the revelation first, but that’s not how it works.  You must be willing to step out in faith given the evidence for Jesus Christ and your own personal desire to know him.

Of course. And it's quite the convenient arrangement, is it not? I first have to believe in our God without any evidence before evidence can even be presented... Would you fall for this: "There's an invisible elf sitting next to me. You cannot see it, hear it, touch it, smell it or perceive it in any way. But if you have faith that it actually is there, then I can provide proof to you that it exists."

I won’t speak for other religions, but I will speak on behalf of Christianity.  Are fear and condemnation the “trump cards” for some believers?   Yes.  In some cases it’s not only the “trump card” it’s also the only tactic employed.  And I don’t agree with the approach.

It's not an approach “trump card.” It's the essence of Christianity's proposition: either you believe, repent and worship in which case all is good, or you don't in which case you're screwed.

When I see examples of lucid folks threatening one another I see that threat made out of either need, desperation or both.  The only instances of threats being made out of pure “want” are those of psychotics.   When you casually replace Jesus Christ’s desire to engage in a loving relationship with his creation with a manufactured desire for him to psychotically punish his creation you can formulate a case for yourself.

The God of the Bible punishes his creation repeatedly and the Book of Revelations quite explicitly states that a punishment is coming and it will be not only severe but quite final. I'm not putting any words into Christ's mouth than the authors of the Bible haven't already put there.

Well, as you and I have discussed before God needs nothing from us.

As you and I have discussed before, we need a definition for the term "God" before we can even begin trying to understand what God needs from us, or anyone else.

Since he needs nothing from us [...]

Except worship?

[...] then that leaves a possible psychotic condition as the foundation for the threat.  Psychosis is a mental impairment or limitation of our mental capacity; although God’s nature is transcendent, infinite, limitless and divine.  It can never be subject to our finite physical and mental limitations.

And yet, this transcendent, infinite, limitless and divine being, a being that you claim personifies infinite love, is so consumed by anger and hate that he wanted to destroy the Israelites (until Moses, a non-transcendent, finite, non-divine being, intervened (Exodus 32) and calmed him down, causing him to "repent[ed] of the evil which he thought to do unto his people") and he claims that he will sentence those who don't believe in and worship him to eternal punishment and torment.

The words of the Bible make your transcendent, infinite, limitless, divine God sounds very limited, finite, emotional and, yes, even human. Why, then, would he also not have human issues?

So, why would an infinite God need to threaten a finite creation?

Great question - if only he could answer us...

You’ll have to forgive me, but I started responding to your list of “irreconcilable contradictions” point by point and then I just stopped writing and deleted my responses because I have addressed these or versions of these points so many times before.   Some points have even been addressed in this very thread.  

I had already responded to points 1, 2 and 4 and was working on point 3 “problem of evil” and then I just stopped (LOL, this point has literally been written about for centuries).

It has - pity that the answers haven't been satisfactory, isn't it?

While responding I had noted "Christ's shed blood for our sins" and then I stopped and thought "he'll just ask again 'why shed blood at all?'," and I've already addressed that point before also LOL.

I would have... we've had danced to this song before, you and I. It's another question that hasn't been sufficiently answered.

I could literally write all day on some of this stuff and/or scour my post history for old replies, but I’m out of gas today when it comes to rehashing.  Further I could do all of that and receive nothing more than a reply of “b.s.” at the end.  Now, I don’t expect that of you and I respect your words, but someone else might LOL.   Maybe I’ll feel differently about it later on.

Thanks for the civilized discussion.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Random pics on: March 23, 2014, 02:21:47 PM

Uhm, I'm pretty sure that this was in Europe - specifically the UK. The "something something something pounds and twenty pence" bit gave it away, but the "Euro Millions" logo and the link at the bottom of the novelty check they're happily holding are also not so subtle hints.
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: God will heal your kidney failure on: March 21, 2014, 06:28:31 PM
Respectfully, I made a statement about those that mock prayer yet have never engaged in prayer, but somehow they know it's a false practice.

I don't practice necromancy, tasseography, crystal gazing or astrology either and I know they're all false, bullshit practices. Why is your particular method of supernatural communication any different?

Please, make no mistake, I have no soft position on scripture.   I can do “hell, fire and brimstone” just fine LOL, but I disagree with the approach completely.  I don’t believe you win folks to Christ with an presentation of fear and condemnation.

But isn't fear and condemnation the trump card of most religions in general and yours in particular? After all, it is, when all is said and done, entirely based around the threat of a bully that says "repent or else!" With the threat established, does it then matter if you speak the threat out loud and make it explicit or just wink and leave it implicit by not speaking those words?

You see, this is an important question. Christianity is represented as a religion of love and the Christian God as one that loves us all so boundlessly that he would sacrifice himself for us. But if those representations are true, what we're left with is a chain of almost irreconcilable contradictions:

  • a God that claims to love us without bounds, but alas, not enough to save us unconditionally;
  • a God that wants us to worship him but who doesn't unconditionally establish his existence;
  • a God that claims to be all good, omnipotent and omnipresent but will allow terrible evils to occur;
  • a God that claims we have free will but who knows what we will do;
  • a God that created the rules under which we are to be punished and who, instead of changing the rules and saving everyone, decides to sacrifice himself to himself so that only a subset of us will be saved.

I submit to you that your God, if he were real, is at best psychotic.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lou Ferrigno wants to Apologize for not attending the ASC on: March 06, 2014, 02:27:33 AM
I respect Lou.

He didn't have to suck Joe Weider's cock in order to get places.

The only places Lou went either involved audiologists or gloryholes. But I digress, here's a picture of Joe Weider, evaluating a candidate based on the Weider principles.

22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bitcoin Exchange CEO - Autumn Radtke - found dead on: March 06, 2014, 02:11:18 AM
The issuing of currency is the purview of sovereign nations.

23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: BitCoin loses 50 Percent of its Value overnight. :) on: February 25, 2014, 11:42:32 AM
Take your charts and shove them up your ass. Bitcoin just died.  Cheesy

It seems that one exchange went belly up. Not the same thing as Bitcoin dying. It may very well die - but it seems to me it's a bit early to ring the bell.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Getting laid in Vegas on: February 16, 2014, 01:14:00 AM
Any tips for best places and methods to get laid there?

Methods: Just hit a front double-bi. If that doesn't seal the deal, then do a most muscular.
Tips: Be sure your tan is evenly applied. Don't mention how you mistimed your carb-up after indulging a little bit at the buffet.
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: The Coke Commercial on: February 10, 2014, 06:59:25 PM
I will be the first to agree that verbosity doesn't equal intelligence. However, I think the inability to answer simple questions is a much better indicator of intelligence... which brings me to this: why don't you answer the simple question I posed for you?

P.S.: Is that terse enough for you?
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