This guy is a traitor. 

G20 summit: NSA targeted Russian president Medvedev in London
Leaked documents reveal Russian president was spied on during visit, as questions are raised over use of US base in Britain
The Guardian, Sunday 16 June 2013 

American spies based in the UK intercepted the top-secret communications of the then Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, during his visit to Britain for the G20 summit in London, leaked documents reveal.

The details of the intercept were set out in a briefing prepared by the National Security Agency (NSA), America's biggest surveillance and eavesdropping organisation, and shared with high-ranking officials from Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

The document, leaked by the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and seen by the Guardian, shows the agency believed it might have discovered "a change in the way Russian leadership signals have been normally transmitted".

The disclosure underlines the importance of the US spy hub at RAF Menwith Hill in Harrogate, North Yorkshire, where hundreds of NSA analysts are based, working alongside liaison officers from GCHQ.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/16/nsa-dmitry-medvedev-g20-summit

We are talk about Congress, here, home of the most self-centered and self-serving people around.

If they are jumping ship....we must truly be fucked.

Unfortunately this is the problem with you that I pointed out years ago..you don't care about anyone's opinion and you never admit when you are wrong about anything or concede that someone else might have a point....which Is why I have always said that explaining things to you or showing evidence to the contrary is pointless...

now go ahead and call me a twat and puta like always

Someone explain why we're really arming the rebels?  What's the deal?




I can't imagine any decent, moral, logical human being supporting something so despicable.  What's the true motivation? 

Ahh so just as I thought, they don't exist

Obama is the last one on board that train too and delaying has almost certainly made our now inevitable involvement more challenging (i.e. going to cost more and be less successful).   

LMAO @ more fertile.   


Shaking my head.   More fertile.

you realize that that Putin is making self-serving statements.....he is deathly afraid of the US giving the rebels superior weapons..

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Justice Dept. Loses a Round in Battle to Keep Surveillance Wrongdoing Secret
 






—By David Corn

| Thu Jun. 13, 2013 8:57 AM PDT


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Last week, I reported that in the midst of revelations about the National Security Agency's extensive top-secret surveillance operations to collect domestic phone records and internet communications, the Justice Department was fighting to keep secret a court opinion that determined that the government on at least one occasion had violated the spirit of federal surveillance laws and engaged in unconstitutional spying.

Last year, after Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) released a declassified statement noting that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court had found that the US government had engaged in surveillance that had circumvented the law, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a public interest outfit that focuses on digital rights, submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the Justice Department for any FISA court opinion or order that had reached such a conclusion. FISA court proceedings and opinions are top secret, and the Justice Department said, in essence, get lost. EFF sued, and in the course of the proceedings, the Justice Department revealed that the FISA court in 2011 had indeed produced an 86-page opinion concluding a government surveillance program was not constitutionally kosher. But the department provided no details regarding the program the opinion covered, and it contended the opinion could not be released because it was classified and the department itself did not have the authority to release a FISA court opinion, under that court's rules.

So EFF went to the FISA court last month and filed a motion that essentially asked the court to tell Justice that there was nothing in it's rules that would prohibit a federal court from ordering the agency to release this opinion. And last week, the Justice Department responded, filing a motion arguing that the FISA court did not have jurisdiction to rule on the EFF motion. It also claimed that if the FISA court did rule in favor of EFF on this point, the court would create a precedent that could lead to the release of redacted opinions that would be "misleading to the public about the role of this Court." That is, the Justice Department was issuing a stark warning to the FISA court: agree with EFF, and who knows what will happen. "A release involving the disclosure of some parts of a FISC opinion while concealing other parts creates a substantial risk of public misunderstanding or confusion regarding this Court's decision or reasoning," the department's motion stated.

The FISA court did not buy the agency's arguments. On Wednesday, it handed EFF a slam-dunk victory in this side battle, ruling, "The Court concludes that it has jurisdiction to adjudicate the EFF Motion and that the FISC Rules do not prohibit the Government's disclosure of the Opinion in the event it is ultimately determined by the District Court to be subject to disclosure under FOIA." So now the Justice Department cannot hide behind its claim that FISA court rules prevent it from releasing the opinion in response to a FOIA lawsuit.

EFF, though, has not yet reached the promised land. It still must beat the Justice Department in district court on the substance of the dispute: can the government be forced to release a FISA court opinion—or portions of it—that declared a government surveillance program unconstitutional?

The FISA court, says David Sobel, a lawyer for EFF, "has made clear that there is nothing in its own rules that prohibits disclosure of the 2011 opinion we're seeking. So we go back to district court and continue our fight under FOIA, having removed DOJ's argument that it has no discretion to release FISC material." Pointing to this FISA court decision and a bill recently introduced in Congress that would require the declassification of certain FISA court opinion, Sobel remarks, "we might be on the verge of re-thinking the degree of secrecy that surrounds all these activities." But he still has a tough fight ahead in this case, for the Justice Department has certainly demonstrated it will fiercely oppose disclosing an opinion revealing government surveillance gone wrong—even when the nation's most secret court has no objection

Wow, big words from that tough guy. Not only is he a piece of shit scumbag but he's a hypocritical piece of shit scumbag.

Fucking e-thugs. 

Bush did it, Bush's fault....mating call of the libby. 

can someone explain why we are giving top secret security clearance to high school drop outs?

Hold on now.

Let me understand.

The Patriot Act was never designed to be an investigative tool for the government to go on a massive fishing expedition. Judicial oversight, notice requirements and the like were supposed to be written into the law as procedural safeguards for the rights of ordinary Americans. Back when that was the line, Democrats overwhelmingly disapproved of the Patriot Act.

Now that it's being used (illegally in my opinion) to farm data on hundreds of millions of innocent people, Democrats think its a necessary weapon in fighting terrorism (even though Obama said terrorism was defeated a few weeks ago). lololol

If you ever needed proof that one side of the aisle is morally and intellectually bankrupt, this poll takes the cake.

It's the same idiotic justification these morons use for empowering the TSA. Racial profiling is bad! Molesting grandma is fairness!

Or more appropriately, we need this massive, illegal, expansive, intrusive tool to "protect Americans"-- but securing the border is bad! We must collect data on innocent people while allowing blanket amnesty to illegal aliens in the name of "fairness".

I could be wrong, ...but given everything we know, I think it could be a fair assumption that he stood a snowball's chance in hell of getting the story broken by a US paper.

Why should he not stay in a nice hotel. He is was a 6 figure income earner, his girlfriend a hot Las Vegas stripper who was probably pulling 6 figures herself. He's probably used to certain material standards.

Why are you so angered by the unsubstantiated possibility that he might have been working with people who could have been spying on you, ...yet so nonchalant, even dismissive of the VERIFIED FACT that he WAS working for people who ARE INDEED spying on you ILLEGALLY, and LIEING TO CONGRESS ABOUT IT?! 

You're being plunked, ...and you're mad at the guy who revealed to you that those you trusted we're LIEING to you, ...to your face?  Sounds like a rampant case of misplaced anger if you ask me

Oh yeah, he was so disgusted he went to a foreign newspaper, fled to a foreign country, stayed in a very nice hotel, and is probably working with people who are spying on us (China).  They should have him and Manning share a cell.   

if they wanted to kill this guy why the fuck would they use a drone ?

he would have an "accidental" overdose or something like that

btw - Ron Paul is NUTS

He shouldn't have come out.


Obama's gonna drone attack this mofo...