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5401  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Muslim psychopath tries to assassinate cartoonist on: January 02, 2010, 12:04:28 PM
According to Ron Paul, this guy must be a terrorist because the Danes are occupiers.  Roll Eyes
5402  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: More Treason - Obama Gives Interpol Free Run In America on: January 02, 2010, 12:00:33 PM
There's likely something we get in return fro allowing INTERPOL in the USA.  

That's been my dwindling hope from the beginning.  And, perhaps we did and the government's just not giving us the "wink, wink, nod, nod" to help assure us.
5403  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ron Paul "They're Terrorists Because We're Occupiers" on: January 02, 2010, 11:54:40 AM
We weren't occupiers on 09/10.
5404  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: More Treason - Obama Gives Interpol Free Run In America on: January 02, 2010, 10:53:37 AM
Only alarmists and CT'er fear this.  And in truth they really don't, at least the less brain-washable types.

Really?  You don't think that this is something to which people should pay close attention?  A great deal of information has been given an immunity that exempts it from our own Rule of Law.

Your assumption appears to indicate that you trust the INTERPOL nations will do the right thing and not abuse this immunity.  In fact, experience and the very foundations of our form of government suggest that immunity from scrutiny is exactly what we don't ever want to give.  Those who don't share your assumption are hardly alarmist or CT'ers.

Speculation about possible future consequences is hardly indicative of being an alarmist or CT'er.
5405  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Michele Bachmann a Welfare Queen on: January 02, 2010, 07:20:34 AM

5406  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Mayo Clinic Drops Medicare Patients in Arizona as Obama Model Bemoans Cost... on: January 02, 2010, 07:13:29 AM
I'm not really sure this is a smart move by the clinic.  They're playing their trump card and it's far too early in the game.  Doing this may very well lead to the government resolving the matter and not in a way that's favorable to the clinic.  And that could set a template for the future.

They really don't want the government to play it's trump card - completely socializing medical care.
5407  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Order on Interpol Work Inside U.S. Irks Conservatives on: January 02, 2010, 06:57:05 AM
How could this change not irk liberals?  I had been sincerely hoping that it would come out that we got something in exchange diplomatically.  It appears now that we've received nothing and given up everything.

With this type of immunity, where are the checks and balances?  Who's to determine if INTERPOL handled information following the Rule of Law or is now above it?

It doesn't surprise me that the administration wants to downplay the significance, but the media seems to be also.   Tongue
5408  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Michele Bachmann a Welfare Queen on: January 02, 2010, 06:48:19 AM
Chill out! I made one little typo. It's not like his. I need a bloody decryption ring just to figure out what he's trying to say, ...and that's like every time he posts.  Roll Eyes

Cry me a fucking river.  You were giving Whorewell shit in the other thread over a typo and he rarely misspells.

Now, your own illiteracy gets pointed out to you, and you want to make the claim that it's "different" when you do it.  Roll Eyes

Amazing how you can claim to have such a high IQ, but can't figure out what he's trying to say.  Maybe they don't test reading comprehension to determine IQ level...
5409  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 8 Americans killed in Afghanistan by Suicide Bomber at Forward Operating Base on: December 31, 2009, 08:26:10 AM
I'm supposed to leave around March 15. That should be about 75 days.

Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy New Year, Gare.  Stay safe.
5410  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Make your Political Predictions for 2010 on: December 31, 2009, 08:07:16 AM
1.  Healthcare bill passes
2.  GOP may take a good number of seats, but I don't think enough.
3.  Cap & Trade will be renamed and repackaged and they will attempt to sell it again.
4.  Economy begins to recover (Sorry, I have to hope for this).
5.  Terrorists will continue to try and kill us and may succeed.  When this happens, 240 will somehow bring Bush into the discussion, and SAMSON123 will insist that it was "obviously" due to the NWO.
5411  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 8 Americans killed in Afghanistan by Suicide Bomber at Forward Operating Base on: December 31, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
My orders when I left the States said that I was supposed to go to Khost, the place of that bombing.

When I got to Kabul, they stopped the first 50 IRR (Individual Ready Reserves - people called back to the Army after being out a while) and told us we had new orders to stay in Kabul. Kabul is no cakewalk, and people do die here all the time, but I like my chances a lot better here.

Things could have turned out a lot different.

JAG can also stand for Judge Advocate General, which is the legal Corps of the military - as in, "You're wife wants to divorce you while you're deployed? Better go talk to JAG."

How much longer do you have left to go?
5412  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Michele Bachmann a Welfare Queen on: December 31, 2009, 07:25:25 AM
{blush}  Embarrassed
Oh I can spell it okay, ...I just find it difficult to type with long nails. My keyboard is black with white lettering. Harder to see. It was early morning here... the sun wasn't yet up, ...and I'm down to one little 20 watt bulb in my bedroom chandelier. There wasn't alot of light, ...and I'm too lazy to get on a chair and replace the bulbs.

...'sides, it's obvious it was a slight typo versus an outright glaringly mispelled word.

Since you were having trouble with acronyms in the other thread, let me give you another.

TELDS = Typical Elitist Liberal Double Standard.
5413  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Abdulmutallab internet rants on: December 31, 2009, 07:14:17 AM
That's the part I don't get. That is just so majorily messed up on sooo many levels.
How does marriage make one lose their sex drive, ...unless he's marrying a guy like Billy.

I doubt he has a clue.  19 yr old sexually repressed virgin.  I've been married for ten years and I think it's great.
5414  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Michele Bachmann a Welfare Queen on: December 31, 2009, 04:40:49 AM
Not sure what word you were struggling for, by I will quite easily & quite readily refer to Jessie Jackson as a fool and a whole lot more. He is a poverty pimp of the first order. I have no respect for anyone who would spit in people's food, or refer to New York city as Hymie Town. Just because he's Black doesn't mean I won't knock him uf and when he deserves it... wake up. I call it like I see it. If you think race is the predominate factor in my life, and determines my choices, sure as heck have no clue who I am or what I'm about.

Shouldn't somebody with such a high IQ, who keeps pointing out the spelling errors of others, at least be able to spell a 2 letter word? 

Agreed on the Jesse Jackson issue.
5415  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 8 Americans killed in Afghanistan by Suicide Bomber at Forward Operating Base on: December 31, 2009, 03:15:59 AM
Angry  Will you please speak English? I'm no jarhead. Trying to figure out your acronyms makes my brain hurt.  Tongue

I know what CIA, FBI, NATO, JAG (which took me forever to realize you weren't talking about me) are, but what is FOB & ANA?

FOB = Forward Operating Base
ANA = Afghan National Army
JB160IQS = Jag's Bullshit 160 Intelligence Quotient Score
5416  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: CIA held back info due to lack of pics? on: December 30, 2009, 09:32:25 PM
No. She was accusing them of not sharing information AND incompetence.  Isn`t this the same beef you have with the CIA now, but not then?

You're distorting what happened.  The CIA was not allowed to defend itself courtesy of it's current liberal monarch - Panetta.
5417  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Abdulmutallab internet rants on: December 30, 2009, 07:25:42 PM
Seems to be a lot of sexual repression...

Plane bomber's rambling internet rants on his jihad fantasy

Failed suicide bomber Umar Abdulmutallab spelt out his nightmare vision of a world ruled by fanatical Islamic hardliners in a series of rambling internet rants.

In one, he said: "I won't go into too much details about my fantasy, but basically they are jihad fantasies.

"I imagine how the great jihad will take place, how the muslims will win (Allah willing) and rule the whole world and establish the greatest empire once again."

In more than 300 postings on Facebook and Islamic websites, Abdulmutallab told of his commitment to the extremist cause.

He detailed his loneliness and his struggle to contain sexual urges that he feared might overwhelm his idealism.

But he also posted mundane messages full of enthusiasm for his other passion- Liverpool football team, often taking friendly swipes at supporters of rivals Arsenal.

Between 2005 and 2008, while Nigerian millionaire's son Abdulmutallab was at university in London, he admitted: "I have no friend. "Not because I do not socialise etc but because either people do not want to get too close to me as they go partying and stuff while I don't. Or they are bad people who befriend me and influence me to do bad things.

"As I get lonely, the natural sexual drive awakens and I struggle to control it, sometimes leading to minor sinful activities.

"And this problem makes me want to get married to avoid getting aroused."

In early 2005, he said: "I get lonely sometimes because I have never found a true muslim friend. I will describe myself as very ambitious and determined. I might sound boring but if you want to know more about me, just give me a shout."

In another post, he acknowledges feelings of lust, chastising himself for not lowering his gaze around unveiled women.

Abdulmutallab, who was foiled as he tried to blow up a passenger jet on Christmas Day as it neared Detroit, even warned: "The hair of a woman can easily arouse a man."

His football posts were far less melancholy. Three months before his team won the Champions League in 2005, he wrote: "Liverpool is my chosen club. I'm disappointed though with their performance lately. "How can someone get to like Arsenal? I tried to but no way. I've been to several football stadiums, I must say Highbury was one of the least impressive, a tiny junkyard sort of place in the streets of London, what a pity!"

He even weighed into the Frank Lampard versus Steven Gerrard debate. He admitted: "Lampard is really becoming a classy player. Now I think he's better than Gerrard."

Abdulmutallab even committed the ultimate Liverpool heresy by suggesting the team might be better if Gerrard left.

He said: "Gerrard might regret leaving Liverpool, but somehow I want him to leave."

Full Story:
5418  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / CIA held back info due to lack of pics? on: December 30, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
Oh fucking brother...

This is a beauracratic nightmare.

CIA Prepared Report on Nigerian Terror Suspect Before Attempted Attack, Sources Say

CIA's Africa division had prepared a report on a young Nigerian man well before he allegedly attempted to blow up a plane over Detroit on Christmas Day, but the report wasn't distributed because the analyst in charge was waiting for pictures of the man, Fox News has learned.

Sources cite this as a main reason President Obama declared Tuesday that a "systemic failure" had occurred in the run-up to the attempted attack aboard a Northwest Airlines flight.

One official described the CIA report as containing a "more extensive description" of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's travel and contacts, which could have been used to keep him off the plane. [/b]The National Counterterrorism Center already had learned about Abdulmutallab and added his name to a terror database of more than a half-million people, but he had not been added to the smaller "no-fly" list or another list that requires secondary screening at airports.[/b]

There is disagreement, however, in the intelligence community about whether the CIA report was the "smoking gun" that should have sounded the alarm or rather one of many pieces of a puzzle that the government didn't assemble in time.

The new details come as intelligence, diplomatic and security officials scramble to explain what went wrong -- with lawmakers pointing fingers and Obama calling for "accountability."

Abdulmutallab is accused of trying to ignite an explosive smuggled aboard the plane in his underwear. The device caught fire but failed to detonate, and passengers quickly subdued Abdulmutallab.

The CIA report contained a reference to "more extensive description of (Abdulmutallab's) travel in the Middle East and his contacts," a U.S. intelligence official told Fox News.

But another U.S. official familiar with intelligence sharing at the CIA argued that "there was no smoking gun" in the report, adding that the National Counterterrorism Center has access to the CIA's raw intelligence and reports in progress.

Obama signaled Tuesday that his review of the incident will dig deep into the many warning signs that were missed at multiple levels of the federal bureaucracy.

"The warning signs would have triggered red flags and the suspect would have never been allowed to board that plane for America," Obama said.

Within hours of his remarks, new information trickled out about who knew what, and when. And it didn't look good for some agencies.

The basic timeline is this: As early as August, telephone intercepts alerted intelligence officials to someone called "The Nigerian" involved in a planned attack. The CIA, though, didn't realize that the individual was suspect Abdulmutallab until after the bombing attempt.

Then in November, the suspect's father contacted the U.S. embassy in Nigeria to warn U.S. officials about his son's radical associations and that he had disappeared. After the father's warning, the State Department sent a cable Nov. 20 to the National Counterterrorism Center warning about the son's possible extremist ties.

The cable said: "Information at post (embassy) suggests subject may be involved with Yemeni-based extremists." It went on to say Abdulmutallab has traveled to Great Britain, Togo and the United Arab Emirates.

At that point, his name was added to the terror database.

Obama said Tuesday that Abdulmutallab should have been on a no-fly list in part because of the father's warning. [/b]That information was passed on to U.S. intelligence, but it wasn't "effectively distributed," Obama said.[/b]

Another intelligence official said there was information out there that would have allowed the National Counterterrorism Center to potentially elevate the suspect's name on a terror database.

But other officials bristled at the suggestion that key warning signs were missed in the intelligence community.

One U.S. official told Fox News that the suggestion that a "magic" piece of intelligence would have shot Abdulmutallab's name to the top of the no-fly list is absurd.

One source told Fox News that the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Counterterrorism Center were all blind-sided by Obama's comments Tuesday about failures at multiple levels of government.

CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano also said the agency did not have the suspect's name until after his father met with U.S. embassy officials in Nigeria. He said the CIA worked with the embassy to ensure the suspect's name was in the terror database and forwarded "key biographical information" to the National Counterterrorism Center.

The State Department, too, deflected some attention on Monday, saying counterterrorism officials were the ones who decided not to revoke Abdulmutallab's visa. Spokesman Ian Kelly said that while the State Department has the authority to revoke a visa, it's not the department's responsibility. He said that after the suspect's father contacted the embassy, the warning was sent to the National Counterterrorism Center, which reviewed the case and determined there was "insufficient" evidence to take back the visa.

He said a review, nevertheless, is in order.

The preliminary results of an internal review are due Thursday to the president, who is on vacation in Hawaii.

A senior administration official, speaking with reporters on condition of anonymity, said enough had been known about the suspect to stop him, but the government didn't connect the dots.

"It is now clear to us that there were bits and pieces of information that were in the possession of the U.S. government in advance of the Christmas Day attack -- the attempted Christmas Day attack -- that had they been assessed and correlated could have led to a much broader picture and allowed us to disrupt the attack," the official said.

It's unclear how the White House intends to handle any glaring errors in the system. But Obama's remarks Tuesday were to an extent a correction to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's claim Sunday that "the system worked." Napolitano clarified Monday that she was referring to agency coordination after the attempt, not before.

But Napolitano's handling of the affair has made her an early target on editorial pages and from Republicans, who have long taken issue with the former Arizona governor. Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., was the first to call for her resignation.

"The fact that this security breach occurred in such a brazen way means that there was a level of significant incompetence involved, and I believe that rests solely on the shoulders of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano," Burton said in a written statement Tuesday. "Her bizarre remarks on Sunday were the final straw in a series of embarrassing and incompetent comments this year."

5419  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / 13 Attorneys General Threaten Lawsuit Over Health Care Reform on: December 30, 2009, 07:09:05 PM
COLUMBIA, S.C. ó Republican attorneys general in 13 states say congressional leaders must remove Nebraska's political deal from the federal health care reform bill or face legal action, according to a letter provided to The Associated Press Wednesday.

"We believe this provision is constitutionally flawed," South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster and the 12 other attorneys general wrote in the letter to be sent Wednesday night to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

"As chief legal officers of our states we are contemplating a legal challenge to this provision and we ask you to take action to render this challenge unnecessary by striking that provision," they wrote.

In a rare Christmas Eve vote, Senate Democrats pushed sweeping health care legislation to the brink of Senate passage, crushing a year-end Republican filibuster against President Barack Obama's call to remake the nation's health care system. The 60-39 vote marked the third time in as many days Democrats posted a supermajority needed to advance the legislation.

The letter was signed by top prosecutors in Alabama, Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Michigan, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Washington state. All are Republicans, and McMaster and the attorneys general of Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania are running for governor in their respective states.

Last week, McMaster said he was leading several other attorneys general in an inquiry into the constitutionality of the estimated $100 million deal he has dubbed the "Cornhusker Kickback."

Republican U.S. Sens. Lindsey Graham and Jim DeMint of South Carolina raised questions about the legislation, which they said was amended to win Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson's support.

"Because this provision has serious implications for the country and the future of our nation's legislative process, we urge you to take appropriate steps to protect the Constitution and the rights of the citizens of our nation," the attorneys general wrote.

A conference committee begins meeting next year to work out a compromise between House and Senate versions of the bill. Experts expect those talks will likely last into February.

McMaster says if the bill goes through to final approval with the benefit to Nebraska, taxpayers in the other 49 states will have to pay for it.

House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., said the letter was a political ploy.

"This threat stinks of partisan politics," he said in a statement. "If Henry McMaster wants to write federal law he should run for Congress not governor."

Meanwhile, Nelson is taking his message on health care reform directly to his constituents. In a television ad beginning during Wednesday night's Nebraska-Arizona Holiday Bowl football game, the Democrat says he stuck by his principles throughout the debate and doesn't want Nebraskans to be confused on his position.

While it's not uncommon for states to challenge federal laws in court, one legal expert said political bluster was likely behind the letter.

"I do think that it is some combination of the losers just complaining about the officiating, or complaining about how the game was played, in combination with trying to make the bill look as seedy and inappropriate as possible, for political purposes," says Andy Siegel, a former University of South Carolina School of Law professor now teaching at Seattle University School of Law.

"It is smart politics to try to tarnish it and make it look less like an achievement and more like some sort of corrupted bargain," he said.
5420  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Announces NWO Vision America WILL Change To on: December 30, 2009, 04:31:41 PM
BF - why did Obama issue the executive order granting Interpol effectively free reign throughout the USA?  

I think we may have gotten something in return diplomatically.  What...I have no idea.  I just can't buy into that he would do it for conspiracy reasons.  But, if it turns out we got nothing, then let's hope the next Prez reverses that decision.
5421  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Palin and Hillary tied as Nations' most Admired Female - Chewbacca 4th on: December 30, 2009, 04:18:15 PM
For the first time in over a half century, a president-elect has topped Gallupís poll of the nationís most admired man.

Thirty-two percent of Americans surveyed in the new USA Today/Gallup poll said Barack Obama was the man they most admired ó a better showing than either former Presidents George H.W. Bush or Bill Clinton ever achieved.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The 32% was back in '08, it's now 30%, and he's hasn't topped GW Bush. (I still hate Bush)

"President Barack Obama is the landslide winner among men for the second time, with 30% of Americans naming him as the Most Admired Man this year. Obama won last year with 32%, and both totals are among the highest Gallup has measured for a winner, with George W. Bush's 39% in 2001 remaining the all-time high for Most Admired Man."
5422  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: a list with 550,000 , is it really that hard to keep up with??? on: December 30, 2009, 10:17:19 AM
Obama and his admin make it sound like 550,000 people is just to much to keep up with, but they keep up their list of the people they are wanting to give free healthcare to of 40 million pretty easily !!!  Hmmmmmmmm doesnt sound to me like they are to worried about our security

Yeah, you're right.  This is really looking like an inexcusable communication error.
5423  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Bush Waited Six Days To Discuss Shoe Bomber With No GOP Complaints on: December 30, 2009, 09:56:29 AM
where is this pic of you I hear is floating around?  Grin

I posted this for you in the other thread.

5424  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: I wonder on: December 29, 2009, 06:05:57 PM
What types of things do you feel we should implement to make airline travel safer?
5425  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Funny and informative article on the stupidity of Jane Napolitano on: December 29, 2009, 05:55:55 PM
Glad we gave up our freedom for some incapable jackass on one out of the billion perfectly safe flights that take place every year.

You're really going to try and exaggerate that out?  What freedom have you given up as a result of this occurring a couple of days ago?
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