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3951  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Arnold VS Mentzer: The Definitive Thread on: January 26, 2010, 06:19:03 AM
I feel like HIT is superior but yet so few adhere to it long term compared to volume so which is really superior?

I still think HIT should be cycled with periods of sub max effort once a plateau is reached... max effort all the time just doesn't seem to work.

Naturals should periodize and get off weeks quite. You can't put your under stress all the time.If you only train HIT, your joints and nervous system will just give up on you at one point. Too much volume will also wear you down. You also have to adjust your nutrition so it creates a balance problem on the long term. There's no "real" way to go.
3952  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: A Cool Dorian Video on: January 26, 2010, 06:03:21 AM
Hulkster is the dumbest poster on Getbig by far, only Goodrum can compete. He never posted pics but I'd guess he pretty mcuh looks the same as Vince.
3953  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bodybuilders Of Today vs Yesterdays on: January 26, 2010, 06:00:45 AM
The 90s was the most competitive era by far: Taylor, Benaziza, Labrada, Yates of course, Dillett, Levrone, Ray, Nasser, Flex, Ronnie and even guys like Pastel, Clairmonte, Munzer, François, Baker, Cormier, Priest, Fux.
3954  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bodybuilders Of Today vs Yesterdays on: January 26, 2010, 05:39:50 AM
You could have this argument all day but I'd prefer to live in the present and list some of the positives of today's BB

--Better balance between upper an lower body
-- Like it or not, crazy conditioning
-- Thanks to people like Yates and Coleman, more attention is paid to back development.

....sure there are plenty of negatives but that's been done to death on this board.  Undecided

I agree but don't forget, back development started with Haney (some will even say Robinson) and Mentzer already had thighs to match his upper body. But those became standards by now while it was stillrare back then.
3955  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: If Cedric Mcmillan thickens his lats and mid traps he'll be mr O in 3 years. on: January 26, 2010, 05:37:40 AM
yeah his skeleton isn't that thick so weight doesn't mean shit... any added midsection size will kill him though

Exactly what I'm sayin'. If he's intelligent, he's got a physique that will look much heavier than he really is. Weight is not his problem.
3956  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: If Cedric Mcmillan thickens his lats and mid traps he'll be mr O in 3 years. on: January 26, 2010, 05:36:26 AM
He'll definitely lose his lines and won't look as aesthetic at that weight, for sure. Ronnie in 2003 didn't look as good as Ronnie in the 01 AC or the 99 Olympia, but was still a sight to behold due to his freakiness.

Let's hope Zac Khan competes at 300 lb one day, then Cheesy

Khan will. He can be a true freak.
3957  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Does anybody remember Playboy uncensored Music videos from the 90's? on: January 26, 2010, 05:31:08 AM
Did they ever have a video for this one:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_HXvURCQ2Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_HXvURCQ2Q</a>
3958  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: If Cedric Mcmillan thickens his lats and mid traps he'll be mr O in 3 years. on: January 26, 2010, 05:28:45 AM
Haha I'm not saying he will, just that it would be cool to see him if he did, which he probably won't.

When Ronnie competed in the 2000 Mr Olympia weighing 260 lb, most people (including a few pros) said that he had no more room in his frame to put on more muscle and be heavier. But he was around 40 lb heavier in 2004. Cedric is taller with a wider frame and longer limbs, so he could pull it off over maybe 4 years or so.

He won't necessarily have a gut or look like a mess at the weight, unless he tries to get there too fast - Gunther pulled it off and looked pretty good at a similar weight back in 2002.

I'm assuming he's at least 5'10", if not around 6 feet. How old is he?

To me, as I said before, he's got kind of a Flex structure, good height for a Pro Bber, a pretty large frame but with small joints and light bones. And look what Flex became when he added weight and tried to look bigger (synthol shoulders included). Gunther or Ronnie have naturally better genetics to play the game size, Yates also comes to mind . Don't let the height and natural shoulder width fool you.
3959  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: PIP. Chemical Ali on: January 26, 2010, 05:24:15 AM
Bush doesn't even identify with Conservative ideals, and you can't seem to grasp this. Fiscal responsibility my ass. The man never met a spending bill he didn't like. Less government you say? Hardly with the Patriot act, Ashcroft's Protect act, etc, etc, ad nauseam.

QFT.
3960  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: If Cedric Mcmillan thickens his lats and mid traps he'll be mr O in 3 years. on: January 26, 2010, 05:03:48 AM
It would be cool to see him compete at 300 lb someday. He's got the frame and height for it.

Looks very impressive, on par with Zac Khan.

I beg to differ. 300lbs? He got the height for it but not the frame. He'll look like a mess at that weight. Will have to up the 'slin and get soft and bloated. He's the type of guy who can compete at 230lbs and look 30lbs more.
3961  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: A Cool Dorian Video on: January 26, 2010, 05:01:28 AM
Bigger BBers "naturally " (strange word in the BBing world) tend to have problems getting in proper condition. Dorian and to a lesser extent Ronnie (specially his first two Sandows) were able to achieve great conditioning while keeping a lot of size. Other mass monsters either had to put their health in danger (like Benazizza) to dial it in or just always be a little short of that like Dillett, Fux, Nasser at his heavier weight, etc....
3962  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: If Cedric Mcmillan thickens his lats and mid traps he'll be mr O in 3 years. on: January 26, 2010, 04:48:50 AM
Most lacking part are his hams and calves (but a black man without calves is not exactly a novelty).
3963  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bodybuilders Of Today vs Yesterdays on: January 26, 2010, 04:47:29 AM
your a joke...  Dexters physique is unreal... why do you think they call him the blade..



franco had a killer body aswell

Franco looked good on pictures with nobody around. His first Sandow was a gift (courtesy of Arnold) and his second is still the biggest joke in IFFB history, a history which is not joke free BTW.
3964  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: If Cedric Mcmillan thickens his lats and mid traps he'll be mr O in 3 years. on: January 26, 2010, 04:44:03 AM
He needs a bit more thickness I agree and some maturity. But not that much. With just a bit more muscle mass and extra conditioning, he will look much more impressive. He's got the type of frame where a little makes a big difference.
3965  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Got a message from Billy Guns - Rips Palumbo and Crew To Pieces!!! on: January 26, 2010, 04:41:46 AM
I don't get it. For a "sport" with so little financial rewards, how come there's so many parasites in it?
3966  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: If Cedric Mcmillan thickens his lats and mid traps he'll be mr O in 3 years. on: January 26, 2010, 04:34:15 AM
Have you seen the pic comparison (ok, it's only pics) of him vs Cutler? Actually, his back is what held best in that comparison. He needs more general development to be a threat but he has the potential. He has a Flex like kind of structure, too much mass will fuck it up. If he maintains his balance while adding just enough everywhere, he's O' material.
3967  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Got a message from Billy Guns - Rips Palumbo and Crew To Pieces!!! on: January 26, 2010, 04:28:46 AM
How about investing that money in a personal trainer that would beat the shit of you for looking like you do. Then build you into the man you could not build yourself into.
Grin
3968  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bodybuilders Of Today vs Yesterdays on: January 26, 2010, 04:23:52 AM
@ Mr. Magoo (still can`t quote)

Here you go in print.......now show me the info on Arnolds drug use as a teen from a reliable source.

Thanks.

Tim Wescott


1995

Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

1999

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 2nd
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 2nd
Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

2000

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 1st
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 3rd
Masters Nationals - NPC, LightWeight, 4th
Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

2001

Masters Nationals - NPC, LightWeight, 5th
New England Championships - NPC, Masters, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 4th

2002

Atlantic States Championships - NPC, Masters 45+, 3rd
New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 2nd
New England Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 7th

2003

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 4th
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 1st
New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th

2005

Masters Nationals - NPC, MiddleWeight, Did not place
Masters Nationals - NPC, Masters 50+ MiddleWeight, 7th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Medium, 2nd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+, 3rd

2006

New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 2nd

2007

New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 4th
New York Metro Championships - NPC, Masters 45+, 5th
New York Metro Championships - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 4th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 2nd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 40+ Short, 3rd

How much you weight nowadays, Wes? Will you be competing again?
3969  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: I was country when country wasnt kool on: January 26, 2010, 04:20:53 AM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63d4Z5aue5U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63d4Z5aue5U</a>
3970  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: where is donkey kong? on: January 26, 2010, 04:01:35 AM
Your mother arrested for pickpocketing again?

There's a gypsy caravan meeting somewhere. Lasts only a few minutes, those burglaries can't wait.
3971  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Dr.Dena official appreciation thread on: January 26, 2010, 03:37:05 AM
From YouTube:
(from 2 minutes in)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wK0uekaRM

"I'm a touchy' feely person!". That's not good news; fuck, I'd rather be tortured in a turkish prison than allow this animal to put her hands on me.
3972  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: I was country when country wasnt kool on: January 26, 2010, 03:30:53 AM
Hank Williams will stay as great musician.
3973  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: PBW Reports the END of Jay Cutler / Weider Relationship! on: January 26, 2010, 03:29:54 AM
Phil Heath.  Kai Green possibly but I'd put my money on Heath.

Heath as Mr O' would be a joke but I believe it can happen. He would be a purely "political" choice. Damn, I've seen small pets with larger frames than that guy. If only Kai hadn't been involved in "fruitophilia".
3974  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bodybuilders Of Today vs Yesterdays on: January 26, 2010, 03:22:48 AM
They used a lot back then but they didn't start as early.most of thiese guys had built a physique and hard work ethic before juicing. If they had had today's drugs, no doubt most of them would have used the same stack as today's Bbers. But because of those restrictions, yesterday's Bbers still give that (somehow flawed) image of health and fitness. Nowadays, it's a freak show, quite entertaining I must say but it's nothing more then being the witness of a lab experiment.
3975  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: PBW Reports the END of Jay Cutler / Weider Relationship! on: January 26, 2010, 03:09:45 AM
So who's the next Mr O'?
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