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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Offseason Drugs from IFBB Pro on: April 27, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
This is what a competitive ifbb pro ran last offseason. I know firsthand how huge this guy.


- 9 month duration until prep begins.

2,000mg test cyp
1,000mg eq
1,000mg deca
6iu serostim everyday
10iu humalog before breakfast
10iu humulin-r pre workout
10iu humalog pre post workout meal
25mcg t4
1mg adex eod
Sermorelin as prescribed before bed

- may add metformin
- may add egrifta if slin meals and gh use causes midsection too get too big
- 4 weeks on alternating oral cycles of
150mg anadrol for 4 weeks
70-80mg dbol for 4 weeks
20-30mg superdrol for 4 weeks
Rest 4 weeks
Repeat

Add 4 weeks of tren @ 700-150mg ed every 8 weeks or so to break a plateau

Keep stims low to avoid appetite suppression

2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 17, 2014, 08:15:36 AM
I have no idea who that person whose picture keeps being posted is. His arms and shoulders look like lumps of scar tissue? i know some guys like to repeatedly pin themselves in certain areas to build up scar tissue to create the illusion of bigger muscles (flex wheeler and ronnie coleman used to just jab at their calves indiscriminately to build up scar tissue...no clue who told them that was a good idea, because it looked BAD).
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 16, 2014, 02:19:07 PM

You would have to really be in with a certain group of drug addict aids patients! and I bet all the bodybuilders fight for who will get who's prescription. I don;t see how a insurance would pay for those expensive drugs. So your saying they get prescribed 180x 10mg oxandrolone tabs that would cost a fortune even with insurance. Guys with HIV have state run insurance that are not that great. Who told you they were that great? in my state they wouldn"t cover oxandrolone.I did a price check a few months ago at walgreens and for the watson oxandrolone they wanted close to 800$ for just 60x 10mg tabs. they didn"t even regularly stock them something they would have to order for a customer.

I'm not saying it is not true but very unlikely in most states. You don;t get special insurance if you have HIV in my state,you get state insurance unless you have a job with good insurance. It seems like a HIV drug addict would not know what the fuck HGH or oxandrolone was unless a bodybuilder sent them into the doctor and told them to ask for it that might work. Most HIv patients have no idea about AAS and HGH unless some bodybuilder guides them and offers them cash. Hell if their drug addicts I bet they would sell the pills and Test for cheaper if they were desperate. Most HIV patients are unemployed and living on dissability and get cheap state insurance I just don't see them paying for thousands of dollars worth of drugs. Hell guys who are vets and go to the VA get awful treatment as well. They get prescribed the cheapest shit possible.

the standard oxandralone prescription for wasting is 3 60ct 10mg bottles every 3 months, which can be refilled every 2.5 months.

You are right, it costs insurance a shitload and so not everyone can with AIDS wasting has access to these rx's as it does depend on your insurance carrier. Theres a fair amount of guys with HIV who have good insurance coverage through a job or simply just a good carrier they have. These are the more functional addicts.

This is the benefit of having a "guru" or "coach" in the bodybuilding scene. They can have access to the guys with such rx's and will sell you these often hard to obtain pharm grade drugs. Thats what makes them gurus.

I notice you fixated more on the oxandralone than anything else. Did you notice the Androxy? Do you know how expensive and difficult to obtain that is?
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 07:08:43 AM
All the same as long as it's us pharm grade gh. Only difference is the fillers.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 06:45:30 AM
About prices...

Upsher smith oxandralone comes 3 bottles 60 count 10mg per rx. Its prescribed for aids wasting. People with an rx for it sell it for like $300-500/3 bottles if you're in "the scene".

Same with tested and androxy...drug addicts get prescribed these for wasting and endocrinological issues.

Most guys have the same doctor/doctors who know they just resell their stuff for meth but the docs get kickbacks for writing the drugs so everyone wins.

Biggest cost here is the humatrope...which is why it's being run 6iu/day. humatrope isn't prescribed for wasting, so it's method of black market diversion is a lot costlier than seros.
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 13, 2014, 07:47:05 PM
You already proved your ignorance to bodybuilding with this statement:

Shelby isn't even that big (comparatively speaking). If he used the stack you mentioned, he would probably be 30+ more lbs on stage.

Then again with this one:

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He even wrote a fucking book called "The Healthy Bodybuilder," which is a great read by the way.

I am not sure why you have such random hostility toward me. I have no clue who you are. But you clearly don't know much about bodybuilding and how much genetics dictate what one looks like, no matter how many drugs they take.

I am sorry it upsets you to hear that someone you seem to like/respect uses a lot of anabolic steroids.

7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 13, 2014, 07:38:59 PM
Complete bullshit. Shelby isn't even that big (comparatively speaking). If he used the stack you mentioned, he would probably be 30+ more lbs on stage. He even wrote a fucking book called "The Healthy Bodybuilder," which is a great read by the way.

Yes, because the more drugs you take the bigger you get, no matter what, regardless of genetics  Roll Eyes

PM me and ill give you a stack to turn you into Ronnie Coleman

Good to know you believe whatever a pro bodybuilder writes. I heard Cutler got huge on Muscletech supplements.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 13, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
Shelby Starnes is notorious for his dosages.

Look at the progress he has consistently made over the years...its not like it was a result of his super slow training/dc training/whatever gimmick he is currently pushing or eating peanut butter with his carbs pre workout.

9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
1) why tren hex?  Less frequent injections?

2) what's the reasoning for humalog in the morning, and humilin-r pre-workout?  Is the humilin so that it's peak hits after the workout, not during?  Also, why stop insulin four weeks out?

1) some people feel that tren hex is superior to acetate and enanthate. Makes no sense on paper as the hex ester is quite heavy so you get less hormone per mg. But who really knows...parabolan was amazing stuff and that was tren hex...but it was also human grade tren.

2) humalog IM shot right before breakfast to get max nutrient shuttling in first meal/humulin-r IM shot 30 mins pre workout so that you get the first peak intra workout and the second peak right at post workout. Drop slin 4 weeks out to reduce overall carb intake when dieting.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:54:33 PM
Desma (Zambon) is sold over the counter in Spain (not as much as it used to be mind)

Google tells me that apparently its still prescribed in the US for a condition called "hereditary angioedema"
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:52:22 PM


Its still prescribed overseas? I just tried googling it and did not find a clear cut answer. I dont think Winthrop still makes the stuff in the US.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
You sure about that?


I dont think they make human grade winstrol any more?
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:45:15 PM

All these gear are bad quality Ugl.
They can't be hg.
no human can support 1.4gr of hg tren hex plus anadrol, t3 t4 clen etc.

There is no such thing as human grade tren, 1-test cyp, eq or winstrol.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:44:25 PM
Yes, but the problem is that the amount of drugs the pros are supposed to be using doesn't distance them that much(pro rata) from your well built gym rat in size or condition.

Depends on the pro. There are some pro bodybuilders who dont even look human. Then there are some who aren't especially impressive.

Bodybuilding is just a competition of genetics but I guess because of the personalities it attracts, you get people that are unwilling to accept their limitations and keep pushing more and more cc's thus you see these outrageous doses.

Theres always that voice that makes you wonder if the other guys are going to look just 1% better to beat you because they took that extra cc every week.
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:38:10 PM
It just sucks hearing the truth, in my opinion.

Im not a delusional little kid that thinks wrestling is real or ronnie was natural when he won his pro card.

Its just disheartening hearing about to astronomical doses and rec drug use required to be top national level let alone a pro.

It shouldnt be disheartening. Most people can look great on low to moderate amounts of steroids and no growth hormone.
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:31:34 PM
Probably not, it will just stay a "all pros take huge amounts that would kill most people" thread.

A lot of pros have health issues, are dying, or are dead. So its not like they are immune.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:30:35 PM
I know a ton of top bodybuilders and none of them use Winny at all in any form...........unless it was a freebee.

So, your conclusion is that zero top bodybuilders use winstrol?

I am not trying to start shit or argue with anyone (I don't really know anybody here, anyway). I am just always puzzled at the people that enter threads I start with such random hostility.

If you don't believe me, okay no problem lol. but please dont tell me you believe that pro bodybuilders use moderate doses of steroids.  
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:29:04 PM
To highlight the potential bullshitting?

Is this going to turn into one of those "the pros use moderate doses" arguments? lol
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
I never believe most of the shit you post............because it`s not true.

You sound like a White Widow gimmick.

Okay. Then why post in this thread?
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:26:21 PM
Is that winny really suspended in Everclear as in the alcoholic beverage?? Never heard of that before. Better than water as far as keeping it sterile I'm guessing?

Thanks for the answers BFG

I think it has less to do with sterility and more to do with avoiding lumps and swelling precontest from suspension injections. winny suspension really fucking hurts
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:24:51 PM
BFG,steroid guru and almost professional bodybuilder........just like all getbiggers.
Roll Eyes

If you don't believe me, what does it matter? The subject of this thread has really nothing to do with me. I never even claimed to write the stack. Its just an interesting point of conversation for this board.

I understand not believing me, though. I probably wouldn't either.
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:15:56 PM

wow , what happens when these gay connection die .....

on that note

me and my girlfriend went to west hollywood 2 years ago , never been there for the halloween gay parade , she has been there a couple times and said it wasnt really all that gay , so we head out, every gay dude out there was ripped and shredded

my brother works at a pharmacy and he told me gay dudes are jacked because they get steroids and GH to help keep their weight up due to aids.

i need to find me a gay connection lol


You are aware that straight people have AIDS, as well, and not all gay people have AIDS, either?

It doesn't really have so much to do with being gay as it does with doing meth. The guys that have AIDS wasting are into "party and play." This means they do meth and have often unprotected sex parties while high, sometimes for days at a time. Usually fueled by meth, poppers, G and K. Unsurprisingly, they get AIDS.

AIDS by itself, when taking HAART meds rarely causing wasting anymore. But AIDS plus meth plus the druggie lifestyle = wasting. So, they get prescribed serostim, oxandralone, test, etc. Many are on medicaid and disability so they get the stuff basically for free. Then they sell it to bodybuilders and they use the funds to buy meth. They get 4 kits every month.

I remember buying like 20 serostim kits once back when I was competing and the guy giving them to me said "yeah this stuff makes my hands hurt, i never use it."
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:04:29 PM
No, but you could just leave peoples names out altogether rather than namedropping.

But that wouldn't really be gossip and would be far less interesting to read? Is it supposed to be some kind of secret that these guys take illegal drugs?

If you know Evan or Vic personally and I offended you by posting that, sorry, it was unintentional. I would not do anything to hurt their lives or sponsorship agreements. I only post this stuff anonymously here, because I know it would not effect anyone through this medium but still provide to be interesting.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:02:26 PM
how do you sleep now?   i've been done with the shit for years, but i still sleep horribly.

It took some time but I actually sleep well now. really, the main reason I couldn't sleep before was because of all the tren and shit.
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 03:00:49 PM
For someone who wants people to respect his privacy you seem a little blasť about posting other peoples information.

Fair enough but this board is called "gossip and opinions." What I said classifies as "gossip." I'm not about to call Evan Centopani's place of work (though I dont think he has a 9-5 anymore, but you get my point) and tell them he buys drugs from AIDS patients, lol.
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