Don't post ugly guys like Dorian in a Steve Reeves thread. Reeves looked better than anyone else....physically.  

Compared to who? you really can't compare to to anyone recently I mean for fucks sake this is the 1940s compared to his contemporaries he was in another league , if he was born  in 1975 he's still be exceptional even more so.

The leaps in supplements , training techniques , equipment can't be over stated.  He made the best of what he had

Shit delts, shit arms,shit quads,shit back.

He had nicely shaped pecs, clean lower pec line, and a trim waist. Big fucking deal.

He was handsome for sure.

Yup, that's the crux of our disagreement.  I do agree the market can't be dominated every generation, and I do agree that the PS3 did survive and did not flame out while other have, and it did catch up in sales.  And I did like the system.

We just disagree on how we define it vs expectations and impacts to Sony.  All good.

Cheers mate, if I ever wanted someone to accidentally cause me permament spinal cord injury, I would want it to be you.

he lives by a different standard/code...you got talkers behind a computer that get off on "im gonna spend my day talking shit and trying to make him mad"..and you him, a 50 year old that looks like that...

Not knocking the youtube comment man, just saying he lives by another standard. Personally i think its cool

ct fletcher sure talks pretty big for someone who just had a quadruple bypass and is under 6feet tall

if you really feel that way, then you won't be able to do it anyways (meaning what you would be advised to do)

my girl and i are having some difficulites at the moment and i've been thinking about hitting some clubs at the week-end, but i just know at the end of the day that i won't do it

and on a side note, i posted up my new pics on a certain meeting site and quite a few attractive females are checking me out, but if one of them would hit me up for a meeting i know that i'd pussy out and not go, coz it's happened quite a few times before

who knows? maybe i'm just a pussy tease LOL!

I've witnessed it with my nephews.  Grand Theft Auto and all of the Call of Duty games have warped their mind.  That doesn't mean that they are going to climb a clock tower and start wasting people, but they are definitely desensitized to murder. 

 

Does not the bible state that one must accept JC in order to go to heaven?  Or something of the like. Those may not be the exact words, but from what I know, one must accept JC to make it to the pearly gates.

No problem my friend.  Make sure you don`t touch the meat with your hands.  Also, next time do this: Dump the meat out from the package on a baking sheet with parchment paper, and with plastic wrap, LOOSELY push the meat together to form a LOOSELY held patty. You want it REALLY thin to form the best Salty Crust Possible.   Then place these on a baking sheet and then into the Freezer for 15 to 20 minutes.  Take them out after 15-20 ONLY after your skillet is heated high and read to go. Salt and Pepper and Fry, flip after about 12 minutes and cook the other side.

Best Burger ever.

But, if you think a game system losing 50% of its market share to its competitors is "doing fine", go with that.

It was infinitely closer than you just saying "things didn't turn out bad".

If they had a 4.7B loss (confirmed in link) through q2 of 2010, 4.5 years into it's lifecycle,

Things didn't turn out bad?  They went from the leader at 60% market share for the PS2 to third place an 29.7% for the life of the PS3.    http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250810/2013-year-on-year-sales-and-market-share-update-to-march-2nd/   That's a disaster.

As for expectations, here's Sony's president in 2006, with the XBox already being out a year:

And here's an independent analyst group saying they'll take a dip with the new consoles but still win the market:  http://www.gamespot.com/news/hirai-ps3-will-keep-or-surpass-ps2s-market-share-6156046

They were not expected to get absolutely lambasted like they did in market share.  The Wii was completely underestimated, as was the 360.   The company's a mess for many reasons, one being the PS3.

So you're refuting the links?

Well, it's been said that dick is free, and p___ costs.
What that cost is, is many things---time, money,etc. But a woman can have her pick.

Woman don't require any "how to get a guy" tips.  They're women.  They pick who they want to fuck.

Understand I've been through this discussion over the years, and have followed the industry via online sources like NPD, through a friend who works at Microsoft, and a couple of friends who are completely obsessed with this shit.  Most of the data I quote is from memory, but a quick google shows this article.

http://www.vg247.com/2009/10/30/sony-ps-division-has-lost-4-7-billion-since-launching-ps3/

Now, granted, that's from 2010 but there's been tons more like it.  If you've followed Sony's investor relations reporting, they have continued to struggle since.  

EDIT: Found this article from Kotaku in 2013: http://kotaku.com/5973498/weapons-of-mass-disruption-3-how-and-why-consoles-will-die

Even if you feel like data mining and the numbers turn out to be different, I wouldn't change my position.  Being a leader in Market share and then getting blasted by two separate companies in that context is a disaster.

The losses between the two can't be viewed without context.  This guys sums it up best about Microsoft's losses relative to Sony's.  It's an old article from 1UP that says Sony could lose more on the PS3 than they made on the PS2.

Microsoft got the drop BECAUSE of the embedded user base, and the strategy worked brilliantly.  How are they poised to pull ahead?  Based on their press conferences?

No sense in arguing the Wii, since we generally agree.  But, to your own point, if a console had shitty software sales, why would it give Nintendo the "confidence" to go with even shittier Wii U?

Who said that's the reason?

It's a failure because Sony lost 5 billion dollars on the console, and a shit ton of market share to Microsoft, despite Microsoft only selling in 2 markets vs. Sony's 3 and Sony having a ridiculously high embedded user base.  That's a failure.


Can you provide the profits over the life cycle of the PS3 to support your claim that sony did "fine".

Why are you "sure" that Wii software sales were abysmal and doubt that profits were high for the Wii?  In other words, you're taking your guesses as fact, when they're not correct.   I've followed the console wars for most of the life cycles of these consoles.   I didn't guess at anything, I followed NPD data to see sales (not shipped), market share etc.....

Yeah, the Wii was a shitty console and a gimmick, but it was a wildly successful shitty gimmick.  The Wii U IS going to flop, but it's not because of the Wii.