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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: First World Problems - Aaron Singerman & PJ Braun's New Show!! on: August 12, 2014, 10:03:06 AM
if their company Prime Nutrition is successful (whatever the definition of that is), how come can't find it anywhere but on their website? Errors and all?

Heck their line is not innovative, it is all private labeled me too products made by Contract Manufacturers (such as Florida Supplements of Miramar or a NutriForce, etc).

Ok, carry on. I call trust fund money in there somewhere.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Pavol Jablonicky on: August 04, 2014, 01:35:11 PM
LOL, Iggy Pop on the right in the picture...

Pavol today on the right

3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: How many PhDs in the forum? on: July 07, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
I believe that the PhD is worth it, well was for me. Jump in economic opportunity when I went from a MSc to a PhD is the biochemistry field.

Define your goal, then build a strategy to get there, an informed strategy. Within that strategy, the PhD might be helpful in getting to the goal faster or completing the goal in a more robust way.

I did mine while working full time and being married with kids, was tough and did not sleep much as I also was a GA for two classes (kept my university costs down as Big Ach or someone mentioned).

4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lee Priest talks about his Lifetime IFBB Suspension on: June 23, 2014, 01:29:03 PM
the poor guy seems sad and depressed.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / METRx - did they drop all body builders from Sponsorships? on: February 04, 2014, 02:54:49 PM
Is it true that MetRx dropped all body builders from their Sponsorships? Anyone hear anything?
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: When I saw the picture of Finish Pole vaulter I was thinking of Getbig on: January 28, 2014, 10:39:23 AM
The Carl's Jr daughter pitch is much better than Baba Booey!
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: LEVRONE NEW VIDEO COMEBACK!!!!!!! ITS FUCKING REAL!!!! on: September 13, 2013, 09:54:27 AM
poor guy seems depressed
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 333386 on NBC TV on: August 07, 2013, 08:27:24 AM
I saw you on this morning. You did great. Must of been a nice experience.
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kai Greene on Good Day NY on: July 29, 2013, 12:17:11 PM
Kai did present well, was engaging and yet got invited to come back. Good for Kai.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Anyone here a fan of Hall & Oates? on: July 25, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
Have you listened to Live from Darryl's House?

Great music and collaborations
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Omega-3 fish oils linked to prostate cancer on: July 12, 2013, 11:32:26 AM
Long-Chain Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Friend or Foe to Prostate?
More than meets the eye to recent controversy over omega-3 levels and prostate cancer risk—Lets take a closer look

Hector Lopez, MD, CSCS, FAAPMR

A large-scale prospective case-cohort study evaluating plasma fatty acid levels and prostate cancer risk, published in JNCI (Journal of the National Cancer Institute) online ahead of print on July 10th, 2013 has created quite the stir amongst media, health care professionals, nutrition researchers, and the dietary supplement industry…Again! To quote the great Yogi Berra, “It’s like déjà vu, all over again.” 

This recent study was led by Drs. Alan Kristal from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, and Theodore Brasky of The Ohio State University Comprehensive Cancer Center in the USA as a follow up to their 2011 study.  This new study analyzed data and blood plasma phospholipid status from men who participated in the SELECT (Selenium and Vitamin E Cancer Prevention Trial) trial from 427 participating sites across Europe, USA, Canada and Puerto Rico. Blood was analyzed for 834 “cases” diagnosed with prostate cancer (156 of which were high-grade), and an age-matched subcohort, comparison group of 1,393 all of which were selected from the 35,533 participants.

Without going into an in depth review of the study (beyond the scope or goal of this post), the men with the highest blood plasma levels of the long-chain omega-3 PUFAs (EPA, DPA, and DHA) were associated with increased risk for low-grade, high-grade and total prostate cancer (44%, 71% and 43% increased risk, respectively).  Intriguingly, a higher omega-6 level (Linoleic acid) was associated with reduced risk of low-grade and total prostate cancer, but there was no dose response relationship. The totality of evidence suggests there is no significant relationship (positive or negative) between omega-6 status and prostate health.

A few salient points to consider here:

1) Within the prostate cancer cases, their plasma phospholipid fatty acid profile was divided into quartiles. The lowest risk group had < 3.68% tissue levels (plasma phospholipids) VS. highest prostate CA risk group being at > 5.3%. This is quite a narrow range of plasma phospholipid fatty acid concentration to draw conclusions from.  Moreover, the mean EPA + DPA + DPA fatty acid % in plasma phospholipids was only 4.48% in controls (non-cancer group), and 4.66% in the total cancer case group. Again, an even narrower range from which caution must be taken before drawing sweeping or extreme conclusions and interpretation of this data. So, what does that mean for individuals who are supplementing actively with fish oil and simultaneously keeping vegetable oil LA (omega-6) intake down that typically walk around at 7-15% (who incidentally have lowest sudden cardiac death risk and lowest 25-year mortality rates)? 

It is possible, that some biochemical scenario plays out where, with respect to prostate CA, you are better off either being real low (at which point your risk for cardiovascular morbidity & mortality goes up), or at the higher goal range of >8%?  There is some interesting preclinical, mechanistic data showing that high levels of DHA increases expression of SDC-1 (a transmembrane proteoglycan) in prostate tissue.  SDC-1 may help with mediating apoptosis (programmed cell death) of prostate cancer cells, by suppressing proto-oncogene (a normal gene that when mutated can cause cancer by deranging cell growth and differentiation mechanisms) signaling.

2) This is NOT a (RDBCT) isn't even an open label "intervention-based" trial. Simply an epidemiologic, nested case-cohort based association.  The SELECT study was not designed specifically to look at omega-3 fatty acid associations, a priori (from earlier knowledge). That simply means the original SELECT randomized, placebo-cotrolled clinical trial was not originally set up to answer the question of whether “Increased intake of long-chain omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids lead to increased rates of prostate cancer development.”  Hence, that limits the "robustness" and "strength of causality assessment" of the data. Further, there was no mention in the study of dietary fish intake or fish oil supplementation.  Is it possible that the sicker individuals began taking fish oil or increasing their fish intake in an attempt to improve their health? Again, it does not allow us to discern whether the "association" exists with fish oil supplementation vs. fish from food sources vs. particular type of fish [Salmon vs. Mackerel vs. Sardine vs. Cooked (Grilled, Baked or Fried) or Raw as in Sushi]. Could there be some xenobiotic or persistent organic pollutants acting as a carcinogen in one of these sources?  After all, it is well established that certain heavy metals (e.g., cadmium, mercury), dioxins and PCBs are mutagenic and carcinogenic.

A few things stand out about the methods used to evaluate fatty acid status.  First, the plasma phospholipid fatty acid assay is considered to be more representative of ACUTE and dynamic biomarker of omega-3 fatty acid intake by many experts in the biochemical analysis of fatty acids.  Short-term factors such as a single meal or supplemental fish oil dose can increase plasma phospholipid omega-3 levels by over 2-fold within 6-10 hours. That is because this assay includes lipids found in the lipoprotein fraction of blood (such as chylomicrons, LDL subtypes, VLDL, etc.), not just in cell plasma membranes such as the omega-3 index (% of omega-3 fatty acids in RBC membrane).  Erythrocyte (or Red Blood Cell) membrane fatty acid analysis is a more reliable biomarker of SUBACUTE omega-3 fatty acid intake, with stable values reflecting dietary intake over a 2-3 month period. 

Let’s admit that this study utilized data mined from a very large, prospective study, with a large number of prostate cancer cases—this is a strength. The SELECT trial that this study was based on had a very good follow up and small amount of attrition.  This minimizes the potential for a phenomenon we observe in research known as attrition bias (a kind of selection bias, where the subjects who dropout are discounted, effectively changing the characteristics of one comparison group vs. another that may lead to drawing inappropriate conclusions from the data/results). 

3) Then, we do need to consider the question of whether there is "fire at the heart of this smoke" that could be attributable to some as yet undetermined mechanism?  After all, there are at least 3 more large studies that support the findings of this study.  However, there are also at least 3 other studies that conflicts with the current study showing an inverse relationship between long-chain n-3 PUFA tissue levels and prostate cancer risk.  Keep in mind that cancer biology is incredibly complex with, not only many factors that contribute to risk, progression, etc., but also many of these very factors interact to create even more layers of complexity.

Having said that,
I have a few theories, including:
** In the case of prostate biology, immune "surveillance" of cellular oncoproteins play a much larger role in identifying and creating cytotoxicity and apoptosis (programmed cell death pathways) to keep these precancerous cells at bay.

** At certain levels of tissue n-3 concentration, there may be a physiologic/molecular environment whereby mitogenic/ oncogenic and cellular proliferative pathways are driven forward and, while tumor suppressive and differentiation pathways are inhibited. This scenario could promote tumorigenesis/ carcinogensis, especially in a scenario where there is just enough immune suppression to allow for this cellular activity to spiral out of control, without the typical safety mechanism and breaks that would limit DNA mutagenesis & damage.

** Lipid peroxides generated at the local prostatic tissue level may, in certain individuals, overwhelm their capacity to neutralize this oxidative stress.  This scenario could theoretically lead to increased DNA damage, that increases potential to outpace DNA repair mechanisms and transform cells to loose cell growth/proliferation regulation.

** Could there be certain genotypes (nutrigenetic & epigenetic mechanisms) that increase susceptibility to the above theories? Given what we have learned from genome wide association studies (GWAS) in the last decade, this is certainly a possibility.

4) Interestingly, this association appears to be tissue specific. As opposite association (inverse relationships) exist for omega-3 status and other cancers, e.g., breast, colon, and possibly pancreatic.

5) There is interesting data that demonstrates what I would refer to as a “metabolic dissonance” in energy metabolism of prostate cancer cells.  In stark contrast to cancers of other tissues, where metabolism becomes more heavily glycolytic (strong preference to using glucose for fuel during energy metabolism), prostate adenocarcinoma cells appear to switch toward greater beta-oxidation of fatty acids to drive its bioenergetic needs! This "metabolic dissonance" with respect to the unique physiology of prostate cancer could very well be a major factor leading to the observed association between long-chain omega-3 PUFA and prostate tumorigenesis in Brasky et al study.

6) Prostate cancer detection has increased dramatically over the last 10-15 years, not only due to the prevalence of PSA screening, but also lower threshold to biopsy has lead to increased diagnosis.  This is particularly the case with detection of microfoci of prostate malignant cells in smaller (lower volume) prostates...Hence, there is a greater probability of sampling malignant microfoci in smaller prostates.  This is an aspect that was not controlled for (Hazard ratios in the study were not adjusted for this variable) in the Brasky et al study.

7) There is also robust evidence that contradicts and opposes the conclusions and interpretation of the Brasky et al data.  For example, the work of Chua et al. (2013), Sorongon-Legaspi et al. (2013), Torfadottir et al. (2013), Chavarro et al (2008), Terry et al. (2001), Harvei et al (1997), and others show a protective effect of higher levels of tissue omega-3 fatty acid status, with lower prostate cancer risk and prostate cancer mortality.

Cool It is also imperative to try adding context and maintaining perspective whenever faced with new information that may change behavior; or in this case, information that may change clinical management and dietary advice.  Lets keep the following numbers in mind to add some more perspective, color and light to this data from a public health, and  (from National Cancer Institute-Surveillance Epidemiology and End Results, and National Heart, Blood and Lung Institute-NIH):

Prostate Cancer- U.S. :

   Age-adjusted incidence rates (for all races) from 2006-2010  152/ per 100,000 men
   Age-adjusted death rates (for all races) from 2006-2010  23/ per 100,000 men
   Prevalence of prostate cancer diagnosis: ~2.6 million men on January 1, 2010
   Direct cost burden from prostate cancer in U.S. in 2010         ~$14 Billion

Cardiovascular Disease- U.S. :

   Age-adjusted death rates (for all races) from in 2008  244/ per 100,000 population (both men and women)
   Prevalence of cardiovascular disease diagnosis: ~82.6 million men in 2006
   Direct cost burden from CVD in U.S. in 2008  ~$218 Billion

9) Although the jury is still not out with respect to the relationship long-chain omega-3 PUFAs found in fatty fish and fish oil and prostate cancer risk, progression or severity, I believe the sheer numbers tell us what the lowest hanging fruit is relative to public health focus and resources.  I do agree with the authors that prostate health history should be taken at least be taken into consideration, when weighing potential risk to benefit ratio of increasing long-chain n-3 PUFA intake. 

10) As with so much in science, medicine, health and nutrition, the more data we have access to, the more questions arise.  One burning question this study raises that is of interest to consumers, industry and health care providers—How would these findings change when evaluating specific dietary sources of long-chain n-3 PUFA (e.g., concentrated fish oil supplements vs. Sushi vs. Baked, Grilled or Fried fish)?

Overall, the benefits of increasing omega-3 status (and decreasing omega-6 overabudnance) for most people outweigh potential risks.  Stay tuned…but as always keep a cool head and try to avoid being drawn into dramatic, emotionally-charged and sensational headlines. 

Hector Lopez, MD, CSCS, FAAPMR
Dr. Lopez is a board-certified specialist in physical medicine and rehabilitation, with a concentration in spine, sports and musculoskeletal medicine. He also has post-graduate training in nutritional biochemistry. An active researcher, speaker, author, and clinician, he is recognized for uniquely integrating the best available methods in the fields of musculoskeletal medicine, endocrinology and metabolism, regenerative medicine, exercise, and nutritional science. Dr. Lopez has been a founding partner and director of several integrative orthopedic, spine, and sports medicine facilities, and he is a principal and chief medical officer of the Center for Applied Health Sciences (CAHS), a multidisciplinary clinical research institute. Dr. Lopez is also co-founder of Supplement Safety Solutions (SSS), a Nutravigilance, quality assurance, medical monitoring, and regulatory consulting company. In addition, he is a consultant to professional athletes and to the nutritional supplement industry as product developer, research advocate, and safety and regulatory expert.


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12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I miss the Sopranos on: July 02, 2013, 09:03:14 AM
Have you read through or watched anything at:
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: NPC Atlantic States 2013 - IFBB Pros pose-down! on: June 10, 2013, 09:35:23 AM
there can be more than one person named Juan Morel
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Mitch K. sounds like he is going to let kobe go on: May 01, 2013, 08:51:03 AM
Great movie and truth

Hyman Roth: There was this kid I grew up with; he was younger than me. Sorta' looked up to me, you know. We did our first work together, worked our way out of the street. Things were good, we made the most of it. During Prohibition, we ran molasses into Canada... made a fortune, your father, too. As much as anyone, I loved him, and trusted him. Later on, he had an idea to build a city out of a desert stop-over for GI's on the way to the West Coast. That kid's name was Moe Greene, and the city he invented, was Las Vegas. This was a great man, a man of vision, and guts. And there isn't even a plaque, or a signpost, or a statue of him in that town! Someone put a bullet through his eye. NO one knows who gave the order. When I heard it, I wasn't angry; I knew Moe, I knew he was head-strong, talking loud, saying stupid things. So when he turned up dead, I let it go. And I said to myself, this is the business we've chosen; I didn't ask who gave the order, because it had nothing to do with business!
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: WYHI....weightlifting honey. on: April 09, 2013, 10:16:39 AM

She could give you a blowjob while holding you overhead.

16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Arnold Classic Brasil 2013 on: March 29, 2013, 05:16:18 AM
A great fun concert to se while at Rio - Arnold
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: My book has finally arrived on: March 27, 2013, 06:58:27 AM
what is the book about?
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Any funny bouncer stories? on: February 26, 2013, 10:52:18 AM
I was at FSU in 1989 and was at this club called the MOON. They had some pro wrestlers in there acting like pure dicks, Sting threw his drink in some girls face, Lex Luger was there and the tag team the 2 black guys one was Ron Simmons. THey were talking a bunch of shit to everyone, even to one of the smaller bouncers, pushing people around. I knew all the bouncers there bc they trained at Golds. He asked me to go get Irvin. Irvin was the nose tackle for FAMU and was with the Navy elite prior to that. This dude was the real deal. He was 6'1 or 2 and weighed 300# very lean and fast. When he walked up, Sting said what is this steroid dude going to do. Irvin grap Sting and Lex each by the throat and slammed them agaisnt one of the bars hard. They were shitting on themselves the way he man handled them. Ron Simmons came up to him and asked Irvin to please let them leave in peace, bunch of pussies. 4 big Pro wreslters scared of this one big ass bounce-football player. The other bouncers just stood there amased. I was laughing my ass off.

Wasn't Irwin also a lifter at Gold's back then? Ron Simmons, former FSU linebacker...he should have known better...
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Marc Lobliner's Crib on: February 25, 2013, 11:22:34 AM
Marc and Katie are good people, nice people, working hard to make a dollar, raise their three children and stay true to having ethics in business.

Marc built scivation (no one person does all alone) and moved on, now involved with a few different ventures, including
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Marc Lobliner's Crib on: February 25, 2013, 11:19:06 AM
I think he's the owner of Scivation? I remember seeing him in a Tempe gym video.

Fucking ridiculous price on those Scivation BCAA's.

He is no longer involved with Scivation, has not been for 2-3 years. Sold his interest and moved on.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What is the cheapest country to live in where you don't have to worry about.. on: February 25, 2013, 11:17:17 AM

Yup Thailand. Great country too.
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Matt Duvall found dead - RIP on: February 25, 2013, 11:14:30 AM
Sad at such a young age.
23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk / Re: Ha ha, Obama getting owned to his face. on: February 19, 2013, 02:13:18 PM
Great speech and even better man.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Van Damme on: February 01, 2013, 11:15:49 AM
good looking daughter, was that his with Gladys P?
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Chick! lol ~ Never seen this befo on: January 31, 2013, 02:29:50 PM
good for Bob, how many years ago was that?
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