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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am leaving on: Today at 08:43:52 AM
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2  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Google takes step against internet pornography on: Today at 07:35:39 AM
I'm simply pointing out that saying "my position on this topic is based on God" says nothing of substance but, in fact, stands for "my position on this topic is not supported by objective evidence."

It does challenge the existence of the Christian God, but only as an aside.

Well, I never attempted to convince you of anything.  You objected to the article and want me (and anyone else that may side with the opinions expressed in the article) to provide you with facts, figures, measurements, observations, repeatable tests, etc....objective evidence.....to validate the position that pornography is bad.  

Me, I just need to hear the testimonies of former pornographers and current/former pornography addicts to convince me that pornography is harmful.  I don't need statistics and bar charts in relation to their testimonies compiled and expressed on spreadsheets.  I don't need repeatable demonstrations conducted in controlled environments by statisticians, sociologists, psychologists and scientists to convince me that the lives of these folks have been negatively impacted.  What would those tests and test environments consist of?

Now, I can't say this with certainty, but it appears to me that you wouldn't trust the testimonies of victims of pornography because they aren't substantiated by evidence.  This industry is fraught with rape, child abuse, female abuse, criminal activity, physical abuse, mental abuse, drug abuse, addiction, disease and death.  I don't understand why people would want to be party to or support an industry that engages in these types of things.  In terms of evidence, would you need to observe and analyze these situations personally?  Does an unbiased third party need to conduct the research, data collection and analysis?  What would that analysis consist of?  How could you be certain the third party is unbiased?  

The analytics and statistics compiled will most likely come back to the raw testimonies of the individuals that lived out the experiences personally.   One victim comes forward and then another and another.....that seems like a solid observable demonstration or trend and a repeatable test of the validity of the claim....live and unadultered completed in the rawest, truest environment possible.  You won't like this, but the requirement of specific objective evidence needed to convince folks often comes across as posturing, finger-waving, excuses and good ole fashioned denial.

What objective evidence do you demand (or prefer)?  Further, what subjective constraints will initially be required of the objective evidence to classify it as quality evidence?  


3  Getbig Main Boards / The Getbiggers Board - The Circus or the Zoo / Re: Comeback of one of the most loved GetBiggers is behind the doors on: July 23, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
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4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kobe Bryant clutch in softball too on: July 23, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
My gawd Kobe's daughters are ugly.

funny.....rude......but funny

I mean hes not a bad looking dude.

outed
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The inevitable death of Arnold on: July 23, 2014, 08:32:56 AM
Arnold won't die....he'll will himself to live.

In the end the earth will be a deserted wasteland void of human life....there will only be Arnold.....we have already foreseen this.

6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Neighbor keeps F'n slamming his front door!! on: July 23, 2014, 08:30:00 AM
I've lived in this pretty nice apartment building for almost 5 years. ALL my neighbors are quiet and respectful. A little while ago, I started being woken up late at night, or early in the morning by a door being slammed shut really hard. I didn't know who was doing it. So, the next time it happened, I dashed for my front door and and went into the hall, to see this arab guy walking away from his apartment. He's diagonal from me. I wasn't going to shout out loud at him in the hallway, so, I wrote a note, telling him that I have been woken up several times to his slamming his front door shut. He wrote me back saying he wasn't aware and apologized for the inconvenience. Since then, he was quieter for a couple of days, but is back to slamming his door shut. It seems like this fucking guy doesn't sleep and I hear other people in there sometimes (he lives in a damn studio) and has no consideration for his neighbors. He's new to this building (The guy before him never did that). Not sure what to do at this point. Building management won't do shit, so that would be a waste of time going to them. I mean, how fucking hard is it to close a door (your damn front door) without smashing it closed every time? Suggestions?

Sounds like your new neighbor needs to be introduced to your tube sock full of nickels.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: why cant anybody anymore in todays times develop an 80s body on: July 23, 2014, 06:16:15 AM
From average juicers to usa competitors..no one will ever look like shawn ray, dennis newman, bob paris..etc etc...everyone's bodies in todays time look so un proportional,  no one has a small waist..no one tries to develop a thick muscular chest..no1 has any sort of discipline for creating simmetry...who wouldnt want to look like shawn ray or dennis newman..you would bang every girl and demand so much respect..

Does the ifbb have this kind of influence in the regression of exercise training..based on their current love for mass..im certain everyone in the 80s wanted to join the Arnold club

That's why we have the men's physique class now.  It's a neverending stream of chiseled abs, tapered 26 inch waists and utter fear of the squat rack.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: How come it's ok to show cleavage but not balls? on: July 23, 2014, 06:13:20 AM
I keep mine out most weekends.....the fellas need air and the kids enjoy em.
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Irish Cafe bans "Loud American" tourists on: July 23, 2014, 06:10:09 AM
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10  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Google takes step against internet pornography on: July 23, 2014, 06:02:22 AM
A position that cannot be rationally supported cannot be a rational. A position for which you can only present evidence after I agree that that the thing you're trying to prove exists actually exists isn't rational.

At this point I'm no longer sure if we're discussing pornography or if we've shifted gears a bit to the topic of God's existence.   I think it's probably a combination, but again I'm not certain which direction you're headed so I'm unsure how to respond.   Need a bit of clarification.  It's all good either way. 

 
11  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Google takes step against internet pornography on: July 22, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
You can also easily youtube videos of people who, after finding Jesus, claim to have found Muhammad, or some other, superior revelation. Yet you discount those. What makes those videos less convincing? That they don't reinforce your beliefs?


See above. Do you give the same weight or credence to the testimony of a porn that doesn't align with your beliefs?


You believe that pornography is wrong, but you provide no sane, rational reason. "I believe it's wrong" isn't a reason. People "believed" marriage between whites and blacks was wrong too. People "believed" that some women were witches and burned them at the stake.
In this instance my focus is not on salvation in Christ.... that was merely an example of folks bound by addiction to pornography and those folks who's lives were destroyed by participating in the pornography industry.   Your examples of those folks from differing faiths suffering due to the pornography industry reinforces that idea.

My position is grounded in God not MOS.  You finding that irrational doesn't make it so.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Mr Olympia 2014 Predictions on: July 22, 2014, 05:08:56 PM
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13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: How many GetBiggers on G&O actually lift? on: July 22, 2014, 01:11:52 PM
never touched a weight
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Is tattoos ever ok, on anyone? The bible says NO on: July 22, 2014, 12:57:34 PM
You're a nice Christian, and I mean that (no homo)

And I've always thought of you as a delicious beefcake (some homo).
15  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Google takes step against internet pornography on: July 22, 2014, 12:37:31 PM
The two aren't mutually exclusive. I'm all for fighting child pornography and protecting children from being abused. What I am not for is bubble-wrapping the Internet and limiting legal non-child-involving porn because "won't someone please think of the children!" that might stumble upon such porn.

Do you see the difference?


I completely understand what you're suggesting, but I'm also a theist and an evangelical Christian to boot so I stand firm against those materials that can potentially help divide God from his flock.  I know it sounds strange, but I actually care about the spiritual well-being of the members of GB.....it's corny I know LOL!   Grin

You can easily youtube videos about former pornstars that have come to know Jesus Christ or believers in Christ that have been delivered from the bonds of pornography addiction.  Many of these folks journeyed to hell and back via this industry and to deny their testimonies is simple pride and ignorance in my book.  Many would say, "well, they should've been stronger people, avoided the addiction and made better life choices."   Perhaps.  Me, I have no pornographic addiction, but that doesn't make me stronger than someone that does.   There are most likely plenty of sinful things those folks stand firmly against that I fall prey to time and time again.      

It's not that your perspective is warped or skewed it's simply grounded differently than mine.  We'll never see eye to eye, but at the very core I do believe that pornography is wrong and if it were completely eliminated in this moment I wouldn't lose a moment of sleep.  In fact, I'd go to bed with a big, fat grin on my face.  Not because people have less of an option, but because a huge, sinful obstacle has been eliminated.  Still, I know that isn't going to happen and I understand how that notion doesn't mean anything to the community of nonbelievers.  I sincerely wish that it did though Wink.
16  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Google takes step against internet pornography on: July 22, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
Serious question for Christians, Jews and Muslims:  Could Song of Solomon be considered soft porn?  Why not?

No, Song of Solomon is not soft porn LOL (sorry, don't mean to laugh it just reads funny to me), but others have accused it as such...others have said the book is not an inspired text. This book of the bible discusses the romantic intimacy and sexual intimacy between men and women in a marriage and their expression of love via the divine gift of sex.   In essence the Song of Solomon is a more like a love song, but it also ties in the intimacy expressed between God and his church.  Of course the initimacy is different in nature, but the expression of love is the same.  Admitedly the language used in this book is hard for me to do solid exegesis...sometimes I simply have to defer to more mature Christians for more thorough guidance.

Pornography gets its greek roots from the word "porne" which is about selling the "intimate services" of harlots (prostitutes).....the selling of various sexual acts or harlotry. The Song of Solomon has nothing to do with adulterous, initimate sexual encounters with prostitutes (or the selling of sex).  

Others have asked, "Would you teach this biblical material to children?"  You would in terms of how the passages relate to God's relationship with his church.  In second Corinthians Paul notes the jealousy of God and his relationship to his bride the church:

2 Corinthians 11:1-3

11 I hope you will put up with a little more of my foolishness. Please bear with me. 2 For I am jealous for you with the jealousy of God himself. I promised you as a pure bride to one husbandóChrist. 3 But I fear that somehow your pure and undivided devotion to Christ will be corrupted, just as Eve was deceived by the cunning ways of the serpent.
 

I would personally save the discussion about sexual intimacy between mom and dad for when they are old enough to understand.  It's not that the material is inappropriate it's just that most children don't possess enough maturity and life experience to understand or appreciate the passages.  Even adults struggle to understand LOL!!

Other have objected to the book by saying, "Didn't Solomon have tons of wives and concubines?"   Yes he did and he was wrong for doing so.  I won't even attempt an apologetic defense LOL. The biblical material is both sound and inspired, but Solomon's personal witness was severely lacking.  We can all relate to those times of personal inadequacy that causes our witness for Christ to suffer.  I've had moments on these boards I'm not proud of.  We see how we pale in comparison to Christ's example.  Even Solomon's father King David had an adulterous relationship with Bathsheba after having her husband - one of David's faithful soldiers and commanders - secretly killed.  And yet Jesus Christ descended from this very family line.  We see examples of believers and nonbelievers acting sinfully all throughout scripture.  Regardless, the divinely inspired message of scripture holds true despite human shortcomings.  


17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Building massive quads without squats on: July 22, 2014, 09:30:33 AM
Vince was an advocate of the no squat leg workout for many a year..Leg press was his staple.


You're correct, this was was Vince's approach and as it turns out quads and hams were his weakest bodyparts his entire pro bb career.

I'm of the opinion that if you're able to squat then squat.
18  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Christians and Alcohol on: July 22, 2014, 08:58:45 AM
Ecclesiastes 9:7

7 So go ahead. Eat your food with joy, and drink your wine with a happy heart, for God approves of this!


Drinking itself is not a sin, but if alcohol is a stumbling block for you or a fellow believer then it's best to avoid alcohol independently consumed and especially when around another person who cannot control their intake.  Me personally I'm not a drinker, but I will cook with and bbq with some alcohol...all the alcohol cooks out.  It's drunkeness that is sinful.  

For me, the notion of alcohol and sin is akin to that of money and evil in that it's the love of money not the money itself that can lead to evil and sin.  Alcohol itself and the consumption of alcohol isn't sinful, but drunkeness is (i.e. a love of alcohol).

I can appreciate Islam's anti-alcohol stance as alcohol can become highly addictive, but so can video games.  Should we eliminate video games? Or Oreos?  If you can't control your alcohol intake you should avoid it completely, but this idea is noted in biblical scripture.  Jesus himself stated that if your right hand causes you to sin you shut cut it off rather than spend eternity in hell seperated from God with both your hands intact.  Certainly Christ didn't mean to literally maim yourself, but the idea is powerful regardless.

A little side story.  I was at a friend's house for a bbq a few months back and several other families came over.  One family were nonbelievers, one family were Muslims, one family were Hindus, one family were Christians.....all families headed for the bar including the Muslims that just came from their mosque.

I appreciate these types of dialogues because they're enlightening for me.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What Country in the World Best Fits Your Personality? on: July 22, 2014, 06:58:09 AM
I got India.

Was hoping for the great nation of Texas.
20  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Google takes step against internet pornography on: July 22, 2014, 06:22:49 AM
Oh boy...

Pornography is not a plague.


Citation needed. And then, even if 42.7% of Internet users do view porn, so what? We can discuss how to keep pornography out of the hands and monitors of children, but what business is it of the author's what percentage of other adults view porn?


Those damn adults... what do they think they are? Some kind of adults who can make their decisions!?!


And the problem is what? Sticky tablets?


Just because he previously wrote it doesn't make it so.


Pornography qua pornography doesn't destroy anything.

As for the objectification of women, I'm not sure what's worse: objectifying them, or controlling their lives. After all, who the fuck is the author to decide what adult women can or cannot do with their bodies?

[And, now, for the following obligatory statement, lest anyone interpret the absence of such as support:] As for the issues of child pornography and human trafficking, we should of course do our best to eliminate both.


They should pray harder and take cold showers.


Eliminating child pornography is a laudable goal and one we can all get behind. As for the rest, you and the people working to "counter this plague" can go fuck yourselves.


Right, because that's a really big problem. I mean, who hasn't, unintentionally typed fuckedbyhorsecocks.com, amirite?


It's easy to throw around numbers and statistics. It's harder to back them up. Citation needed for the quoted portion: who made this estimation and based on what data? What's the confidence interval?


I have never personally seen such an ad. That's not to say such an ad doesn't exist - only that I find it unlikely, but that's irrelevant. The interesting question here is if you want to protect your precious spawn from seeing such things why don't you (a) supervise their Internet activities or, if that's just too much difficult (b) buy some cyber-nanny software to run on your computer and protect your damn kids and leave the rest of us alone?


Fuck you and fuck your kids.

 
Google can, of course, choose who to do business with and what kinds of materials they want to advertise; it is their right. Yes, porn is big business but I doubt that the amount of money that Google would lose over this is "massive" - again, the author doesn't cite his sources; he just spouts bullshit.


Good things Omni Hotels is privately held, or that statement would qualify as an admission of breach of fiduciary duty. But do note: Omni Hotels chooses to limit the content they make available on their TV screens; it's not choosing to limit the content available on other people's TV screens.

 
Good for them. But they aren't telling people they can't eat chicken on Sundays, are they?


Good for him, but he isn't forcing other people to live on 1% of their profits and donate the rest to an irrevocable charitable trust.


Good for them, but they aren't forcing other companies to fire former convicts and provide support to them and their families.

Are you starting to see a pattern here? These people are not trying to control other people's lives - they aren't trying to tell them what to eat, how much to donate and who to hire. The author is trying to control other people's lives: he believes porn is bad and a sin and that, therefore, nobody should have access to porn.

You took the time to "line by line" your response so I thought I should respond; although after going line by line I think the gist of your response and the pattern is simple: "no God, no sin, no problem....keep your religion separate from me and my rights and enjoy it on your time.  And if I so choose I'll enjoy pornography on mine".   Just the standard theist/atheist disagreement with some jabs thrown in.

Even if I provided every citation for the stats presented in the article would it make a difference?  I'm doubting it LOL.  Given the article is theist-based something about the data, collection efforts and/or data analysts would be objected to.

The thing about sex is the vast majority of the world loves it....some live for it...some worship it.  They like to talk about it, take pictures of it, create artistic representations of it, write about it, watch others engage it, make tv and film about it, engage in it alone, engage in it with a partner, engage in it with multiple partners, engage in it with both sexes, engage in it with animals, engage in it with different ages of people, engage in multiple kinds of sex, engage in it with inanimate objects, engage in fetishes and fantasy play, etc.....the world loves sex and the majority will fight with every breathe to protect their right to every past, present and future orgasm.

My only question would be why the
We can discuss how to keep pornography out of the hands and monitors of children
in one breathe and
fuck your kids
in another?  Which is it?

Me personally I get the ole "FU" almost everyday in regards to my faith from someone.....I'm fully immune and expect it.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Is tattoos ever ok, on anyone? The bible says NO on: July 22, 2014, 03:32:49 AM
I like the Muscle Christianity account, exposing the hypocritical blobs of shit most of you Jesus freaks are

What hypocrisy is being exposed Wes?
22  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Google takes step against internet pornography on: July 21, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Jim Denison wrote the article...fyi.

I can try and locate his e-mail address if you'd like

As far as I'm aware the pornography industry isn't going anywhere, is only growing in popularity and accessibility and will still produce an abundant supply of pornographic materials for you and  your loved ones to enjoy for decades to come.

Good news for lovers of pornography is that Google's efforts won't make a dent.  And who knows?  Perhaps Google will get new leadership in the future and double or triple their support of pornographic material.

In short,  if you enjoy pornography you have the vast majority of the planet supporting it also....it's extremely safe and protected for your children's, your children's children's and your children's children's children's lifelong enjoyment.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Is tattoos ever ok, on anyone? The bible says NO on: July 21, 2014, 10:08:22 AM
The Amish are American, you childish ignoramus. They came from Germany hundreds of years ago. Now they are here in The Promised Land practicing Christianity the way they see fit. Europe and the Netherlands are now a Godless waste land soon to be subject to Sharia Law.


I'm just going to state this nicely.  Please stop with this Christian gimmick account.  

I've already acknowledged it's a good gimmick....it achieves exactly what it sets out to do.  Now I'm just politely asking you to lay it down.

If you ever have a genuine interest in speaking about God, Christ, Christianity I'm happy to do so with you.
24  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: why are blacks getting so violent when having there picture taken on: July 21, 2014, 08:02:01 AM
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25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 9 years "progress" on: July 21, 2014, 07:54:19 AM
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