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8351  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 06:12:40 PM
No, the musclular definition on Ronnie is blurred by water.
Look at that 93 pic; where the muscles divide are clearly distinct. Just becuase the underlying muscle itself doesn't have deep fissures (read:striationts) does not, i repeat NOT, make him smooth. Conditioning is not judged on how the muscle is formed, only how clearly and distincly it is seen through the skin.
Agreed, but it doesn't override other CRUCIAL factors such as muscle shape, fullness AND striations. To me it doesn't make sense how conditioning ITSELF becomes a deciding factor when in fact Ronnie's Back Double Biceps pose looks heaps better... with phenomenal conditioning to go with it, even if it doesn't match that of Dorian. Dorian's back looks paper thin in comparison to Ronnie in that particular pose.
8352  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 05:55:13 PM
I scanned this:


That's not Dorian.
8353  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Powerlifting / Strongman / Re: Grip Training - logging some workouts on: January 10, 2007, 04:23:27 PM
yeah, with all the fingertips touching the ground, like you had two softballs in your hands

McNeil can do two fingers plus thumb using both hands, I asked her if she could do the bruce lee ones, that's as close as she got
mcneil? Is that the guy in your avatar?
8354  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: Inner chest on: January 10, 2007, 03:11:14 PM
I don't agree with the idea that it's not possible to hit various areas of a muscle because the muscle isn't configured to allow it. The same theory's been used for other muscles as well. IMO various exercises will in fact hit different areas & angles of a muscle. If this wasn't true, everyone would do only 1-2 exercises for each muscle and never change them.

Use a wide range of exercises over time, that way max. angles will be covered. Doesn't have to be every workout, different exercises can be rotated in over weeks or months.

Wide grip BP will generally hit outer chest, as someone mentioned.

IMO for inner chest use pec deck, lying cable flys or pulley crossovers, something with constant tension. Towards the top of the motion, keep the elbows fairly close together.
ditto. Peak contraction exercises like pec deck, especially where the resistance is centered around the elbows, is superior for chest (inner) development.
8355  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ronnie, Jay, Dorian at their peaks on: January 10, 2007, 02:49:50 PM
Ronnie just plain outclasses the two. No if's and but's about it.
8356  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bodybuilding a Sport? on: January 10, 2007, 02:13:06 PM
No, not a sport.

You should talk to Mr. Intenseone about this. He's an expert on this, plus as an added bonus he can shoulder presses 60 lb dumbells with second to none mind muscle connection.
8357  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: CRAZY BACK! on: January 10, 2007, 01:58:02 PM
That's big mal.
8358  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:50:33 AM
Another thing to note. Look at the lighting in that last picture I posted of Dorian - very dark and similar to that like Ronnie had in 99 - and notice you see individual fibers in Dorian's shoulders. The lighting and background at the 93 Olympia was bright and not great for Dorian. Just another reason I think it would be a closer battle between Ronnie and Dorian than you all think Wink
Ronnie displays better striations in the English grand prix pics with very bright lighting Wink Those pics were thought to be THE best set of ronnie pics before Hulskter found the 99 ones, which IMO sealed the deal in Ronnie's favour long ago. So I'm not sure how far the darker lighting argument is gonna carry for Dorian. Darker or brighter lighting can hurt or improve one's look in certain pictures and poses, that is for sure.

Last post for the night, I'm off to bed fellow nuthuggers.
8359  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:42:55 AM
you can most definately compare the sizes of their waists by looking at their midsections in relation to the rest of their body. We know they are almost the same height and weight. Dorian's waist is much wider than Ronnie's and sticks out just as far. It also contained a great deal more solid muscle. His obliques were more developed and his abs were dryer. Ronnie carried some water in his midsection. Lean muscle tissue weighs more than water b/c it is a solid. Therefore, Dorian carried considerably more weight in his midsection than Ronnie.
Probably doesnt account for that much LBM, come on now...
8360  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:40:48 AM
I'm not so sure if what you claim is true about the 98-99 Ronnie. But you make a good point about Yates managing a phenomenal taper in certain poses... his front lat is by far one of the best I have ever seen.
8361  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:36:22 AM
You cannot post separate pictures and compare them. If they are both on the stage at the same time, both have very similar sized midsections, period. Dorian's waist is wider, but that's about it.
The added width does add volume to his gut, even though it may protrude just as much. It definitely looks worse and kills his taper in certain poses.
8362  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: can demons/jinn be real? <boobie..read this> on: January 10, 2007, 12:34:20 AM
yes, it'd be hard to explain how people around the world experiences with the "supernatural", especially when one hears stories from close relatives and friends that you know wont lie about that shit. A friend of mine tells me he's seen some crazy sutff around his house, like shadowy figures with green outlines walking around his room. Very feaky  Shocked
8363  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:27:19 AM
The problem is, you only compare Ronnie to Flex and Kevin who had pathetic development in comparison to Ronnie. Put a 93 Yates on that 99 stage with Coleman, and promise me, it would be a titanic clash Wink
wait...what?! Kevin was a beast! One of the few guys who can match (beat) Ronnie on the side chest!
8364  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:20:44 AM
The problem is, you only compare Ronnie to Flex and Kevin who had pathetic development in comparison to Ronnie. Put a 93 Yates on that 99 stage with Coleman, and promise me, it would be a titanic clash Wink
haha I think you got me mixed up with the Hulkster as I have made no comparisons to Wheeler and Ronnie's other counterparts. But judging from his solo pictures even, ronnie looks big as fuck, and certainly bigger and better (opinion) than Dorian. I do know that pics can be deceiving though so it would be interesting to see them both on stage. i.e. if some getbig experts would oblige to do that for us in order to kill this thread.
8365  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:10:15 AM
Actually, in comparing a 99 Ronnie with a 93 or 95 Dorian, Dorian is more muscular. Both men are 257lbs, however Dorian is better conditioned and is 1-2" shorter (Ronnie is closer to 6').
Only pictoral evidence can account for your claims. Just because dorian was heavier doesn't mean he looked mroe muscular than Ronnie. And its not just sheer muscularity we're talking about  here so much so the appearance of fuller, rounder, striated and vascular muscle...basically Ronnie is more aesthetic and displays better musculature.

so even if I were to take your word for it, that dorian was more muscular at that bodyweight, it still doesnt say much for why Ronnie still cruches him int heabck department in his 98-99 appearance. Its all about how it looks buddy Wink
8366  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 10, 2007, 12:01:54 AM
He also takes the real lat and rear double biceps. Dorian doesn't have round muscles like Ronnie, however, he is so freaking peeled and dry that his muscles look like granite!
Has him on conditioning... no one ever argued with you over that. Ronnie also displays phenomenal conditioning with even better musculature (something u agree with), so you gotta give it to Ronnie because of that. You cannot give it to Dorian simply based on his superior conditioning, unless ofcourse Ronnie's condtioning is way off base..
8367  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 09, 2007, 11:54:01 PM
its gonna take me all day to rebut with pics but Dorian definitely takes Ronnie on the Side Tri and the Ab & thigh. Ronnie destroys Dorian in the Back Double Bi though, his back looks paper thin comapritively in the last shot you posted.
8368  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: "One white man's opinion" WTF on: January 09, 2007, 11:51:00 PM

English is not my mother language
F UCK YOUR MOTHER.





































meltdown.
8369  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 09, 2007, 11:48:06 PM
"fucking destroying" Ronnie's there? You sound like a douche.
hahah I love it when u guys swtichover from intelligent debate to jsut plain calling someone a douche Grin

good job.
8370  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 09, 2007, 11:46:05 PM
black and white shot in the gym versus actual shots:





Dorian is uttlerly outclassed man. Ronnie's muscles are bigger and just look better.
8371  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce on: January 09, 2007, 11:37:30 PM
Another outstanding shot
holy shit Shocked


Ronnie is still better though.
8372  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: DAVID HENRY SIGNS WITH WEIDER!! on: January 09, 2007, 08:58:03 PM
I never claimed to be a god. There is only one God and he has a son named Jesus. Wink
No he doesn't, but it is clear that Alexxx is the King of BB.  Cool Tiny tits tremble in his presence!!!!
8373  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Trevor Smith's Beyond Failure Training ! on: January 09, 2007, 08:46:17 PM
Masochistic training.. fuck that shit, no science to it really, IMO.
8374  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: More nonsense from Anderson Dipshit Cooper against dems on: January 09, 2007, 08:34:15 PM
you gotta love berserker, he's the man.
8375  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Muslim worshippers are being urged by radical clerics to ignore British law on: January 09, 2007, 04:52:41 PM
You're a joker, denying facts...

You're saying:

Christians == Muslims

In terms of "malicious things in the name of God and their holy books"?

Sorry mate, you're way off base.
Where have I denied facts on this thread? You're the one in denial about crimes commited in the name of chrisitanity. There is where I'm drawing the parallels. Now either STFU or provide some good counter points to further the argument.
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