I was wondering about this too.  I found a couple sites that had it in stock and not much left.  So I ordered a few bottles even though it was highway robbery prices.  Otherwise lots of medical supply places are saying out till 2013 with hundreds of cases on back order.  Seems to only be a couple of major vendors that they all use.  Wonder what happened?  Some Timaaay like pee'd in the vats or what?   

I don't think I can in my state.     I did find some online but it was like 14 bucks a bottle.

Sounds like bac is the only way to go.  Thought of trying a home brew like this.  Thanks for the other link.

Hey guys,  I found out that there is some kind of shortage and most of the medical supply places do not have bacteriostatic sodium chloride for injection or water till 2013.  However, I did find a few places that have plain sodium chloride for injection.  Can that be used instead? 

I was curious since it is just missing the benzyl alcohol to fight bacteria, but ... since it is all sterile and goes in the fridge.... used up quick....like vial a week...  Would it hurt?   

I did find this and it indicated it was ok:

http://buypeptides.org/syringes-water.html

What do you guys think?

Well sounds like Canada is becoming just as big of a-holes as USA government.  I never understood it...  drinking, smoking, trans fats, and 5 million other things that are bad for you are all ok...      Sucks your stuff got seized man!

Looks like a nice gym.   

Don't worry if it has any potential real health benefit the USA government will be sure to make it illegal.  

Because it gives you higher testosterone levels for maximum training results.      ha ha ha   

From what I have read yes this bold part is true and it varies with age.  Being an average is 4-10mg of test per day most HRT docs will prescribe around 100mg per week.  Minus the ester weight as mentioned it is probably right around 70mg per week of actual test.  Some docs will go up to around 250mg if the patient doesn't respond well and needs a higher does to get their numbers up.  I have never heard of higher doses than 250mg per week from any of my buddies that are on HRT.

This goes along with what I have read as well.  I have not heard about the lack of a saturation point.  Can anyone else confirm this?  Or was this from your own experiments a-ahmed? 

Also I have read that ipamorelin does not desensitize like some of the other GHRP's listed.  Hope this helps.

Take care,
JAM

Not sure about Canada, but I can PM you some sites for decent labs in USA.  All for legit and legal research purposes of course.  Plus on that note research chemicals should not be seized as it is legal for your experimentation research correct? 

Take care,
JAM

LOL    like the song ... R-E-S-P-E-C-T     Actually I mean pouring "It" being the oil into the ocean.   But yeah a swim test could be kinda neat to watch too.  ha ha ha ha 

 

It would be more humane to pour it in the ocean.  ha ha ha ha 

Sorry for resurrecting and old thread but ...

Same principles hold true for

Bac Sodium Chloride?  (aka slows bacteria growth)

Plain sodium chloride  (same as sterile water only with salt)

Sorry I'm no chemistry wizard.  But wanted to validate.   

I like the way this man thinks.      lift 6 days / cardio 7 and then yep... I can eat more.   

I like em both but hardly eat them anymore.     Was a gourmet burger place in Plano TX that had onion rings about the size of your face.  Those were nice.   

I vote for phish any day!   

You want one from each group:  (for your experimentation of lab rats of course)   

A.  GHRH CJC1295 DAC, CJC1295 no DAC (aka  GFR Mod-29 and CJC 1293) 
B.  GHRP - GHRP2, GHRP6, Ipamorelin, Hexarelin, etc.

From what I have read the DAC version (drug affinity complex) causes a constant release that does not mimic natural pulses in males.  I have no real experience in working with DAC, but I would suggest a different GHRH so that you get a burst more like a natural pulse.  Unless you are using female rats, because in that case non-pulse slow dribble of GHRH is more of what their pattern is. 

Results will vary based on the animals response to the peptides, diet, exercise, sleep, etc much like anything else.  Hope that helps!

 
Take care,
JAM

Ahh so that is now DNA    Wondered where they came from out of the blue.  LOL

Best to stick with legit chemical research companies for your lab rat experiments.   

Thanks man, that is what I was thinking but being it was "part" of full on HGH I wanted to ensure the amino acid peptide wouldn't shut down normal HGH function.  I get some bad tendonitis and need all the healing I can get.  LOL   

Funny I was actually debating between HGH Frag alone, or the combo you just listed Imparelin and CJC1295 (no DAC).  Is that mod GRF the same GHRH?

Hey Guys,

I had some questions that I couldn't find an answer too. Or my searching skills just plain suck.

1. Will using HGH fragment cause any suppression of your natural GH pulses?

The reason I am curious is from what I have researched it seems fragment is very good for fat loss. But I wouldn't want to use it for that purpose and then have it suppress my normal GH which probably includes other things besides fat loss.


2. Can Fragment be run alone, or do you have to include a GHRH like CJC1293 or CJC1205? I am assuming since fragment is "part" of full on HGH you can run it alone.

What say you?   

Hey Guys,

I came across this video with what seemed to be a reasonable explanation.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1W2CxXzpi8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1W2CxXzpi8</a>


Sounds like according to this strongman / coach (and a few things I have read) running a GHRP (GHRP6/GHRP2/Imparelin/Hexarelin) won't do much on it's own. Is that correct?

It seems like you MUST run a GHRH (CJC1293/CJC1295) with it to "open the door" for the GHRP signal. Is this correct?

I have found other conflicting information so I wanted to try and clear it up. Any help and advice is appreciated.

 

Thanks Galeniko, and I imagine high doses would have that effect (good results and side effects with it).  But I would be more interested in low dose, long term use for healing and overall health.  But wanted to get a feel for overall risk vs benefit of that idea before asking my doc.  So far it sounds like the benefits far outweigh the risks for low dose pharma grade HGH.

Good point, you have to try and see what works for you.  Some folks each body part 1 time a week is good.  Others have to do twice a week to get some good results.  And some can do a whole body 3 times a week for good results.   Just depends on the person and quality of their diet, sleep, etc.

Thanks itrain,  did you do any blood work to see if it helped your cholesterol / hurt it at all?  Still a bit curious on that one.