Lol someone needs to tell no one and kranke that it's ok to be attracted to women and be a bodybuilder at the same time. I'll bet anything I've had at least twice the women u guys had, but I'm not interested in Internet arguments no one can prove. I'm just a guy trying to upgrade his quality of poon. Can't see where that's wrong.

Have you read anything I typed in this thread. I workout cause I actually like it and I always want to be bigger. Now, if that can get me better vag, cause I actually like getting laid, then I'll take that as well. Can't see anything wrong with wanting to get pussy, man. You can still be serious about bodybuilding while wanting to get better women. There's no conflict of interest.

I know what you're saying man. I'm glad I went through my "fall in love" phase when I was younger. Now that I'm 28 I can't imagine myself ever making the same mistakes. Even when I was smaller I always had pretty girls, so I learned eventually how to stay level headed.

I find fitter girls more attractive.

Hmmm you have other reasons for working out?

Thanks for serious replies gh and alpha. I don't want to become pro, but I love bodybuilding and my goal is to look pretty much like alpha dog 225 at 6% because I love lifting and being big. But I don't see anything wrong with reaping the benefits and doing hotter girls. It just comes with the territory.

Oh and I definitely don't want to date for a while. I'm definitely good with a few fucks cause I hear a lot about how psycho these bitches can be. Haha

Close! Yesterday was back/real delt day. Today I rest and pin sust before bed.

Why is everyone here so anti-vag? Or is it cause I'm not born 225, 6% like everyone here?

Btw, chap, I've been lurking here longer than you've been a member. Just sayin'...

Urine idiot. Who said thats my life ambition? Oh, I forgot I can't be serious about life or bodybuilding if I ever aspire to slay hotter poon. Must only fantasize about other bodybuilders' bodies.

Right now I'm only at 205, 10%, ~average gym rat, so I only get average club sluts. I know I will have to mutate more, and least get to 200-210 at 7-8% before I can holler at the hotter fitness girls. For those who have experience with the subject, what does it take to start consistently landing those womens? Do I need to mutate even more than that? Are there certain things to talk about that those girls like to hear? Any input is appreciated.

So you're saying I just need to get on a shit ton of gh and tren and I can start doing women that look like that??

Thanks for all the responses everyone. It seems cutting the training is the main point of most of the responses. I've always trained 5-6 days a week hitting every body part 2-3 per week. But then again, this is my first cycle, so I'm just trying to figure out what works. I started week 10 yesterday, which means I have 3 weeks left, plus 12 days before pct. I guess for the remainder of this cycle, I will try what everyone suggested, and cut training days to 4 and see what happens.

Another question is the exercises. I don't know if my arms are considered "long", but I am almost 5'11", 205-210lbs, and I wear 34/35 dress shirts.

You think that would be enough working out considering I'm on hormones? I'm already recovered from my Monday chest workout by Wednesday.

So I should replace my bi/tri workout on monday with this one and completely remove Friday/Saturday arm exercises?

Thanks.

Monday: (Chest/bis/tris - hypertrophy)
Flat DB Press           6 X 3   @ 65% (speed work)
Incline Smith           3 X 8-12   dropset
Chest Dip                   3 X 12-15   
Cable flye                   3 X 15-20   dropset
Barbell Curl           3 X 8-12   dropset
DB concentration   2 X 12-15   
Hammer Curls           2 X 15-20   
Close grip decline   3 X 8-12   dropset
Skull crushers           2 X 12-15   
reverse cable press   2 X 15-20   

Tuesday: (Back/shoulders - hypertrophy)      
Bent over row           6 X 3 @ 65% (speed work)
Pull ups                   3 X 8-12   drop
Cable row                   3 X 8-12   drop
DB Shrugs                   3 X 8-12   
close grip pull down   2 X 15-20   
Seated DB press           3 X 8-12   drop
Side lateral raise   3 X 12-15   
Bent over laterals   3 X 15-20   

Wednesday: (Legs [one day is enough for proportion])      
Squat                   5 X 5
Hack squat                   3 X 8-12   
Smith lunges           3 X 12-15   
Leg extension           3 X 15-20   
Leg curl                   3 X 15-20   
Standing calf raise   4 X 12-15    
Seated calf raise    3 X 15-20   
      
Thursday:
REST      
      
Friday: (chest/shoulders/tris - heavy/strength)
Flat DB press           3 X 5   
Incline smith bench    3 X 6-10
Weighted dips           2 X 6-10   
Standing OH press   3 X 6-10
Arnold press              3 X 6-10   
Preacher curls           3 X 21   

Saturday: (back/traps/bis - heavy/strength)      
Bent over row           3 X 5   
Weighted pull ups   3 X 6-10   
Chin ups                   2 X 6-10
Barbell Shrugs           3 X 6-10
DB shrugs                 2 X 6-10
Rope pressdown        3 X 21

Sunday:
REST      

Im on 500mg test. Everything growing good and proportional, arms are stuck 16 for left, 16.5 for right. Pathetic.

I work them twice a week. Monday I do 3 exercises bus, 3 tris. 7 sets total for bus, 7 for tris. Friday 3 sets each, high reps (21s).

Any tips please.

Thanks.

Am I just totally missing it or are they calling it something else on their website??

Wow looks awesome. But why is he so conditioned? Is he getting on stage soon?

Well, this is depressing.

I guess I'll always be cruising once I hit 35. Can I continue looking big into my 50's and 60's without major health problems if I take "moderate" dosage of AAS and GH?

But doesn't GH actually multiply cell count and create new ones? Those new cells evaporate and disappear, or simply decrease in size? So, for example, if I were to run GH for a while, stop and never workout again, wouldn't I be "bigger" than if I were to stop working out now since I haven't done GH?

Silly newb question: for the casual gym rat who just wants to be big, can you cycle on and off w/ gh and still retain most gains? Or is it once you're on, you gotta stay on like AAS?

On a compound as "shitty" as test? OMG No way!!!!

:rolleyes:

So you're saying 90mg is pointless I should just bump it to 100mg for both cause sides will be the same? I guess that makes sense, I might as well just do that.

From all that I've read about tren I feel I should probably start with that low of dose just to assess tolerance and reaction. I'll take my time and get to my goals eventually with more cycles.

You sound pretty mad dude, calm yourself. I started out with a strict diet for cutting, and once I dropped some body fat, I added in more kcals in carb at specific times to increase lbm. If you think dropping fat and gaining just 5lbs of lbm in 12 weeks ON STEROIDS is not possible, then either YOU are delusional, or just not a good bodybuilder. No offense, just keeping it real.

And of course I'm not expecting to be huge from 2 cycles. I'm just trying to take it easy and progress into hormones slowly to find out what works for me.

Currently finishing my 1st cycle test sust 500mg/week 12 weeks. Really good gains. Started at 215lb 18% bf, and now I'm at 205-210 less than 11% bf. I'm 5'10". This cycle was a recomp and an intro to test/AAS.

I'm going to do 4 week PCT and then take a couple of months off bulking very slowly (i've never been at 18% before, that was because I was out of country for 3 months).

Anyways, I want to do a cut over the summer time, so I'm thinking:

Test P 100mg EOD week 1-10
Tren A 90mg EOD week 3-10

I don't want to compete (i'm too old anyways at 28), but I've always wanted to be biggest gym rat in the neighborhood. Is tren ok for my second cycle? I'm taking only 90mg eod to keep sides down for my first run. Or should I just do test p/mast for this run and save tren till later?

Thanks.

Oh, and I'm glad to join this board. Seems to be a lot of knowledgable folk.

Looking real good, BiGHer.

Question, what is your weight/height? Also, do you mind giving an idea of what else you ran along with the kig for those 3 weeks?