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51  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: The USA is Digging Itself Deeper & Deeper.... on: June 22, 2014, 08:51:46 PM
I think you might be overstating your case, or perhaps you might have irrational fears or just a very bad past experience.

Not overstating a thing. I don't like the stock market these days. It's a giant crap shoot with little integrity left IMO

The way I see it, if you insist on day trading or putting everything into 1 or 2 investments that you picked haphazardly or got into because your hairdresser gave you a "tip" and lose most or all of your money in this day and age, you've pretty much brought that on yourself - what with the knowledge and also reputable professional help available at everyone's fingertips these days.


I don't know which is funnier, ...the idea of me day trading, or the idea of me getting a hot stock tip from my hairdresser. I wouldn't trust my hairdresser to pick a cold drink for me, let alone an investment.

But if you can educate yourself, think longterm, learn to manage risk, keep emotions in check, and buy 10, 30, 50 or 100 companies with mostly sound fundamentals and solid or promising products and services, there's no way you should lose all of your money. If you invest in 10 companies (much less 30, 50, or 100) and they all go under, you're either the unluckiest person on earth or you really, really suck at picking stocks.

I do try to educate myself, and I most definitely think long term... very long term. As for my emotions... I think the right word is disgust. Disgust with what I see in the markets, and those who work in them. I used to live on Bay Street. (Toronto's equivalent to NYC's Wall Street) The mentality of the stock brokers that surrounded me was less than impressive at the time. Looking back, it was even more distasteful than I realized at the time, It doesn't surprise me 2008 happened. I'm glad to have made it out of the markets relatively unscathed. I took a tiny bit of a loss in 2008, not much, just a ding, but have since recouped it all. I think most people had some exposure to the hit. The problem for me was I had no control over my own money. The investment vehicles were chosen for me. I saw what they put me in, but I couldn't control the percentages, ...and they only had 5% of my money in gold. I wanted at least 20% in gold. After fall of 2008, I said 'forget this, I'm going to control my own money myself.' Fortunately, being north of our border, the hit wasn't too bad, ...but I don't like the idea of having to call someone to get access to my own money.

People don't go broke from proper investing. They will no doubt have the odd losing year or 2 here and there, but they won't lose it all. People go broke day trading or otherwise being too active, being too egotistical or greedy, panicing, putting everything into one company that fails, buying into investment scams (almost always with independents outside of major broker dealers & that are too good to be true), or shorting companies that end up going to the moon.

How can someone go broke shorting a company that goes to the moon?
If someone is playing in the markets, and doesn't know enough to put in a stop-loss, that's just plain stupid.

Many people far smarter than I started with little or nothing and have become hundred millionaires, billionaires, multi-billionaires, even billionaires times 20 or more in a few cases - just from investing in mostly publicly traded companies. Many middle class people become millionaires or multimillionaires after 30-40 years of contributing the max to work plans and IRAs.

Ha! Being a millionaire isn't what it once was, different time, & era. But being a Billionaire on the other hand...  Tongue
I have a few friends in the Billionaire club, mainly from commercial real estate and IPO's, none in the 20 Billion range or above (that I know of) ...however there is one who seems to be on track for that, simply from having the right clients. He's not in the financial field.

I started with $100k in a taxable account 20 years ago, have averaged 15%, have contributed hundreds of thousands more to it over the years, and have also been maxing out retirement plans during that time each year, averaging 12% on those. If you do the math I guess I'm doing ok.

Congratulations! Glad your strategies are working for you. Let's hope for your sake your currency will still have some purchasing power left in it when you go to use it.  Smiley
52  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Dr. Oz getting grilled on: June 22, 2014, 07:45:30 PM
Is it hypocritical that Congress is taking up arms against some guy talking about natural remedies that have been used for centuries, when they let big pharmaceutical companies hawk dangerous, faultily-tested drugs designed for far more serious medical conditions all day long?

Not hypocritical at all. The members of Congress are quite mindful of the campaign donations they receive from Big Pharma. They may have certain duties, but they never let their duties get in the way of their priorities, ...and their priorities are to get elected, get rich, ...and get re-elected.
53  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: Entertaining read on: June 22, 2014, 07:37:43 PM
I like his sense of humour.  Grin
54  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: RHODIUM....cheaper than Platinum now. on: June 22, 2014, 02:41:39 AM
They're an e-commerce company now? I see... this inspires confidence, for sure. This is the reason why when I go to buy a car from a car dealer, I also buy flour from him as well.

Karatbars has always been an e-commerce company

LOL... in other words: "there too are merchants. I can't tell you where they are, but they totally are." You sound like a child.

So amazing that "company" - all it does is give, give, give... Roll Eyes

Yep, ...they're constantly amazing me as well as other affiliates with their caring, compassion, & generosity. Smiley

One itty-bitty problem: NOBODY WANTS TO TRANSACT THAT WAY.

Actually we're finding that a lot of people would prefer to transact that way. Many States like Utah, Arizona etc are in fact passing laws making gold legal tender.People more and more are choosing to extricate themselves from debt, and debt based systems.

As I've demonstrated - using numbers and math - what they do is sell tiny amounts of gold, at a ridiculous markup in a package that is neither convenient nor standard.

This is simply not accurate, but you're entitled to believe whatever you choose to.

Certainly, the government can remove currency that comes to its possession from circulation and it can make a currency that is legal tender no longer legal tender. But it cannot make the currency you have stashed in your mattress disappear, and it cannot just 'recall' it. But this is hardly something new or shocking. And it's not limited to currency that it issues: a government can also make private ownership of gold illegal, as the U.S. did before.

Precedent certainly has been set for that in the USA, but truthfully, it matters not to me whether the USA, (one country out of 120+ and counting,) chooses to outlaw private ownership of gold, anymore than I care that Saudi Arabia makes consumption of alcohol illegal. Or for that matter that gambling was illegal for so long in my own province. If I wanted to play BlackJack, while sipping a Long Island Ice Tea, I could always simply do so in Vegas. China once passed a law stating married couples could only have one child per household. It didn't make a hill of beans to those Chinese couples living in Canada, the USA or anywhere else outside of China, or even for those Chinese couples who already had multiple children living outside of the country. They were not required to undergo retro-active abortions. Governments can pass whatever laws they choose to. They could in fact pass a law one day making private single family home ownership illegal. I prefer however not to engage in wild speculation with regards to what laws governments may or may not choose to pass in the future, and I see no reason why I should forego owning my own home as a precaution. I simply keep my eyes open, look at what I see going on all around me, and try to apply a little common sense in my decision making.

First things first: a bank card is not a currency anymore than a menu is food you idiot.

I'm well aware that a bank card is not a currency. I used that as an example of something issued & used for the purposes of facilitating financial transactions. While both facilitate financial transactions, they remain the property of the issuer. That was the point I was attempting to make. There's no need to get ad hom.

If a bank "recalls" your card, they don't get to keep the assets that you have in your account.

LOL! You say that like you've never heard of Cyprus, or the bank bail-in provision already codified into law in all the G7's. BTW: Those numbers in your bank accounts, are not your assets, they are digital debt-based IOU's. What do you think will happen to the value of all your currency if your bank can't afford to pay it's debt obligation to you? Would you rather have your savings backed by FDIC / CDIC insurance or gold? As for me personally, I'd rather have my savings IN GOLD.

And yet, it looks and feels exactly like an MLM.

Only to the uninformed.

Karatbars doesn't sell gold either. They sell plastic cards. And I'm not interested in viewing yet another website dreamed up by you and your cohorts.

Karatbars does indeed sell gold. Your lack of interest in clarity or accuracy of facts, reveals to me your possible true intent to:
  • A. disparage what you do not understand,
  • B. malign, misconstrue, and mislead instead.

Sure it has - in the same way that your gas pills afforded you the ability to drive your car without having to fill up with gas.

When did I ever state gas pills would allow someone to drive a car without filling up with gas? Roll Eyes

Do you honestly believe that one of Europe's largest independent Consumer Watchdog organizations would recommend them if they weren't genuine? ...or that the Vatican would buy 100 kilos of Karatbars gold... or that Buckingham Palace would commission and privately brand 6 kilos of limited edition commemorative collectable gold cards for Queen Elizabeth II's diamond jubilee without first determining if the gold was real, or if the company was a reliable partner to do business with? Do you?

I've stated what Karatbars is, and what it isn't.

You can choose to indulge in whatever wishful thinking you choose to about whether the gold is real or not. There have been many who have actually purchased Karatbars gold, removed the gold bars and had them tested, only to discover, they are exactly what Karatbars and their certificates of warranty claim them to be.

You don't have to take my word for it though. We could simply put the matter to rest by your purchasing some Karatbars gold cards, and having them tested. Tongue  "You once told me to put my money where my pie hole was". Until you take your own advice, ...I really don't see that we have anything further to discuss. Wink

I wish I could say I'm surprised that you don't have a job, but I'm not. You don't strike me as a productive member of society. You strike me as a leech.

But peddling "gold" to others will get them where they want to be financially? Yeah, right...

You've tried this "we're like Amazon" bit before. The truth is you aren't like Amazon, and you ought to cut it out.

Whether I understand what you're doing doesn't make a difference. Whether you understand does. Let me remind you, you are the buffoon who thought that Karatbars were 999.9% gold...

Again, the facts are there for everyone to see. The conclusion is inescapable.


You are a fucking joke and you do a far more compelling job at caricaturing yourself than an established caricature artist ever could.

How much more plastic, by volume, do you have in your "stockpile" there? I'm just curious.

Come on, is this even worthy of a rebuttal? Lady, you've never had 4,000€ in weekly referral anything. You've never had 4,000€ period. Go back to shilling miracle gas pills and whatever else it is that you do to swindle people.

Seriously? You're offering clarifications? Haven't we already established that you don't know your head from your ass? Remember, you are the person who didn't know fundamental economics concepts and can't explain basic facts about the bullion market.

Thank You for those kind words,
Have yourself a lovely weekend. Smiley
55  Getbig Womens Area / Open Talk for Girl Discussion / Re: Bodybuilder boyfriend is G4P on: June 21, 2014, 08:14:51 PM
Hey Jack, I found it while I was looking for a weightlifting site to join so I could chat while I was getting back into lifting. Its kinda grown on me at this point. I know men find it odd but there are women who don't compete that actually like to lift. I'm one of those even though I thought about competing a few years ago.

LOL. There's just something about this place isn't there.
After the initial horrific shock wears off, kinda grows on ya.  Cheesy
56  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: RHODIUM....cheaper than Platinum now. on: June 21, 2014, 07:45:31 PM
Karatbars sells plastic cards.

Karatbars sells gold bars embedded in unique collectable cards, as well as other gold products and gift items. From fragrances, champagne, clothing, time pieces etc., The company is an e-commerce company with the ability to include numerous products across their spectrum of product offerings.

There you go with that "argument" again. Two points:

First, the argument would be impressive if any businesses accepted Karatbars. A while ago you said that mass-market adoption was just around the corner and that hundreds - if not thousands - of merchants would start accepting them anytime now...

There are various K-Exchange outlets throughout the world, and many more coming on board every day. At this stage in development, the full database of K-Exchanges has not been released. People are in the accumulation phase. Why spend a preserving asset when you can spend a depreciating one? I have no control over the release of the database of K-Exchange locations. I also have no ability to predict how soon the paper currencies of the world will experience such a depreciation that no one will want to transact in them.

Second, if you really care about transaction friendly weights, you may as well stock on iPhones. The 4S contains 0.001 ounces of gold - a much more practical amount. And it's way better than a plastic card because it's functional: you can use it as a phone!

Karatbars does have a stock of gold iPhones. They don't sell them tho, ...they give them away to affiliates.

0.001 ounces of gold is indeed a transaction friendly weight, and an amount our system will be able to accomodate. Through our accounts we will have the ability to trade in mere fractions of a gram. Not in something fiat, no credit, but in something tangible... real money, gold.

You just spam forums about something you don't understand (gold), talking about a subject you don't know about (economics).

I don't believe that's the case. Clearly we have a difference of opinion. I have mine, you're entitled to yours.

This bit is from "With the company's "Affiliates" program, investors can make Internet-based purchases through Karatbars plans and they are encouraged to recruit two other Affiliates. These Affiliates are in turn encouraged to recruit two other Affiliates each, and so on. Affiliates are lured by the possibility of earning large payouts, in particular through a percentage of amounts collected from the Karatbars plans and gold products purchased by referrals."

I'm not a spokesperson for the company, and as such it would be inappropriate for me to comment, other than to say I am extremely confident that any confusion this may cause for some will be resolved satisfactorily.

Now, I don't know about you, but this sounds like an MLM to me... is that not how it works? If it is, how is this not an MLM? It's the textbook definition of an MLM.

Bottom line: if it waddles like a duck and it quacks like a duck then chances are that it's a duck and not a rabbit.

As I've stated before, Karatbars is an e-Commerce company that sells 999.9 pure gold bullion products produced by LBMA accredited Good Delivery List refineries. They offer free gold accumulation accounts that allow people to buy gold in smaller, more affordable weights of 1 gram, 2.5 gram and 5 gram weights, and have the gold delivered to them by insured courier, or stored for free..

They also provide a generous affiliate referral program that rewards affiliates for their referals to the company.

What the hell does "not subject to arbitrary government recall or sanctions" even mean? If the government were to pass a new Gold Act, all gold could be recalled.

All government issued currency can be recalled, and removed from circulation by the governments that issued them. If you take your bank card out of your wallet, you will see that it is considered the property of the bank that issued it. You are allowed to use it as a convenience. If at anytime the bank that issued it wants to "recall it" they can. You are the bearer of the card and permitted to use it as a convenience. Bank of America does not however have the authority to recall a Bank of Canada ATM card. They didn't issue it, and therefore cannot recall it.

Perhaps because what Karatbars is doing doesn't make sense? But then again, no MLM does.

If it doesn't make sense to you, that's ok. You are not required to be a member, customer, or affiliate. It makes sense to me and many others. If you would like it explained so it does make sense, feel free to do so through Again. Karatbars is not a MLM.

Ooh. A business plan. With numbers. Tell me, how much gold do I and the people under me have to sell, under your business plan, to get $1,000 a month?

Karatbars affiliates do not sell gold. The company offers 7 streams of income that members can choose to participate in and earn from. You may view the 7 income streams via our website by visiting

I take it you are proof of the plan's "success"?

Being an affiliate, setting up a system, and utilizing a strategy has provided me with zero-risk financial exposure, positive residual cash flow, and the ability to acquire gold that I don't have to dip into my personal finances to acquire... more gold than I would otherwise be able to acquire dipping into my pockets every week from money from a JOB. (if I had one). Many of our affiliates have chosen to utilize the same strategy I and many other use, because they have come to the conclusion that the last 10 years at their "jobs" didn't get them where they wanted to be financially, and the next 10 years at their jobs would not get them where they wanted to be, or allow them to acquire the same amount of gold on a weekly basis that utilizing this system could. No one is obligated to utilize any strategy or even refer anyone. The system is there, the account is free, and people are able to use their accounts simply to earn referral bonuses without ever acquiring any gold themselves, and likewise, people are free to remain customers and simply acquire gold without ever making a single referral if they choose. Just like you, me, or anyone else can choose to make a purchase from without joining their affiliate program, or recommending a book, or any other product available through Amazon.

LOL at the 5 figure weekly passive income cash flows. And as for the free gold bit, I'll say it again: if you are getting gold for free, the person giving you the gold attaches no value to it. Since that's unlikely, the likely explanation is that  you're actually paying for it, but don't know it.

Whether you understand what we are doing or how we are doing it makes no difference. We still get paid.

Sure, you'd rather get paid 20,000€ in passive weekly income, along with another 6 or 7 ounces of gold per week (another 5,000 € at current rates). The question is: are you? The answer is no. You aren't getting paid 20,000€ and 6 ounces of gold per week. You aren't paid that per year. Or per decade.

You're right about something: the no-brainer bit. It describes you perfectly.

Whether you understand what we are doing, or how we are doing it makes no difference. We still get paid.


No but for a limited time, (summer special) affiliates who choose to participate in our optional DS program can, for an additional 45 € receive 90 € worth of coupon codes (6 codes x 15 € each) towards various collector cards. Many are choosing to use these codes to acquire the newly issued voice of Africa collector cards. Proceeds from the purchase of those card go towards supporting a school & orphanage in Africa.

I'll bet there's more than 300 grams of plastic in that picture. And you're still a few cards short of a troy ounce of gold, aren't ya?

That's not at all accurate. There are 31.1 grams in a troy ounce of gold.
Each one of those black & gold cards you see has a 1 gram gold bar embedded in the centre.
Each one of those silver/grey cards you see has a 5 gram gold bar embedded in the centre.

Anytime I have 4,000 €  in weekly referral rewards, my system automatically acquires 4 of the black & gold cards for me. You do the math, and tell me whether you still think there isn't an oz or more of gold there.  Wink

Feel free to PM me if you require any further clarification.
57  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: The USA is Digging Itself Deeper & Deeper.... on: June 21, 2014, 04:39:35 PM
It can be scary, no doubt. Anything I invest a substantial amount of money in (90-95% of my time, money, and efforts) I get to know very well before I jump in - I read the 10k, everything. The other 5-10% of my time, energy, and effort is on more speculative investments / trades that have something very unusual happen that creates the opportunity for quick profit or may look promising for the longterm. I diversify and go to great lengths to minimize risk.

I feel much more confident investing most of my money and the money of others in a few dozen publicly traded companies I have handpicked than I would be putting money into private businesses, speculative real estate, etc.

90% of all private companies fail. And real estate fluctuates more than most people realize, doesn't guarantee income or anything else, and can be hard to liquidate.

I guess scared isn't really the right word, ...more infuriating. I don't have a problem with risk,
...but I just think some risks are just plain stupid, so I won't take them. Everybody is different.

Some guys like to cut their flesh, and lower their bleeding body parts into the water to attract shark.
Ya, it certainly may achieve the objective, but it's still stupid in my opinion, so I won't be doing any of that.

I used to do what you do. However, one can read all the 10Ks etc., examine the fundamentals of a company, the market etc., etc., ...however, when I see good companies having to compete against poorly run companies that fudge numbers, or are given advantages, and rewarded for their mismanagement, I don't stick around.  With all the corruption I see in institutions, there is far too little integrity in the markets for me to want to do that. To each his own though.

These days, the only investment I make is in myself, and my commitment to preserve my purchasing power.
I'm using a strategy within a system that gives me zero financial risk exposure, and spins off nothing but pure profit in the form of weekly cash flow and free gold that I didn't have to dip into my own personal finances to acquire. The more cashflow & gold I want, the more I simply intensify my efforts using the system.
58  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: As U.S. Lies & Suppresses Gold, Its People Are Getting Crushed on: June 21, 2014, 04:05:07 PM
By "stockpile" you mean, your plastic cards, right? Just checking.

By stockpile, I mean my stockpile of transaction friendly weights of 999.9 pure gold bullion bars produced in an LBMA Good Delivery List refinery, stamped, serial numbered, and sealed in credit card sized plastic certificates of authenticity, complete with weight, purity, assayers signature, and other security devices that enable others to recognize it's authenticity.
59  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Nutrition, Products & Supplements / Re: coconut oil on: June 20, 2014, 10:52:23 PM
I have to agree with Montague. I wouldn't consume it if I were in your position.
I'd find another use for it. Booty is right, it makes an amazing skin moisturizer, and as a hair growth rejuvenator it's second to none. I started massaging it into my scalp just over 2 months ago for extra shine, and additional strength, ...holy cow!  Shocked My hair has got about 6-7 months of growth in the past 2 months. I'm gonna start putting it on my lashes daily.
60  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Was It Right To Remove Saddam? on: June 13, 2014, 12:37:18 AM
Look, when Iraqi terrorists blew up the WTC and saddam stockpiled chemical weapons, he sealed his own fate. .

What?!?!  I don't know if this is a deliberate piece of troll bait, ...or the product of USA public education.  Huh
61  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: The USA is Digging Itself Deeper & Deeper.... on: June 12, 2014, 11:47:16 PM
Big market selloffs like Q4 '07 through Q1 '09, and the corrections in the spring / early summer of 2010 and summer of 2011 are great opportunities to get bargains on great investments.

I like some of everything - gold and other metals, real estate, good corporate stocks and bonds, oil and gas, etc. I also make liberal use of put options and a broad market short position as a hedge.

I'll keep doing what I've been doing for most of the 20 years I've been investing - investing mainly bottom-up on fundamentals in a diversified portfolio, and keeping my emotions out of it. I've found that it works very well overall.

Good Luck to you. You have much bigger ovaries than me. The markets have been so out of whack for the past 6 years, I haven't felt comfortable about any kind of investments at all. The rules of the game have been thrown out in favour of crony capitalism. You say one should keep their emotions out of it, but that is downright impossible when you're essentially rolling the dice. In my opinion, that's all the investment world has become these days... nothing but a crap shoot in the casinos of Wall Street. I find it hard not to get emotional when I'm being robbed left & right. They aren't even bothering to try to hide it anymore.

These days I'm all about wealth & capital preservation. Perhaps some miracle may occur, and the environment may become conducive to investing again, or perhaps something may come along that would be worth the investment. Until then, I'll simply save what I have, exchange it into real money, ...and maybe perhaps invest it, but only if the markets become conducive to investing again.
62  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Conspiracy Theories Board / 18 "Conspiracy Theories" that were proven to be true! on: June 12, 2014, 11:17:34 PM
18 "Conspiracy Theories" that were proven to be true!  Kiss

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63  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: RHODIUM....cheaper than Platinum now. on: June 07, 2014, 11:21:57 PM

I purchased north of 500K with Hans.....I haven't bought since 2011, but had a very good experience.

Just like I said, "you hadn't purchased much from him in the last year if at all."
You're fortunate, a lot of folks lost big. Same happened when Gold House went under.  Cry
I think it was Mr1derful who first alerted me to that one. I should have known something was up when the emails started coming in hot & heavy sometimes as much as 4 & 5x's a week, ...then poof... nothing.

I know the people at GC personally.

That helps a lot in terms of personal comfort levels. It took me close to 2 years of careful observation of Harald and how he handled situations that arose, before I felt complete trust. These days, you can't be too careful.

.....but, if you want to deliver pamp 1oz at 9.95 over spot, but product up front cause I don't know you.

LOL  Grin You're such a funny man. 2 Things:
  • I don't sell gold, ...Karatbars does
  • Karatbars doesn't sell 1 oz bars of Pamp. They have 1, 2.5, and 5 gram transaction-friendly weights

Please allow me to clarify this again. As an affiliate, I acquire gold, I don't sell it. Karatbars sells gold, not me.
Karatbars offers an affiliate referral program, just like any other e-commerce retailer, very similar to Amazon.
When an Amazon affiliate refers or recommends a book, Amazon rewards the affiliate with a referral reward.
Amazon does not require the affiliate to purchase the book and then resell it to the end user, Amazon sells the book.

Amazon is not an MLM, or network marketing company, they are an e-commerce retailer.
Karatbars international is not an MLM, or network marketing company, they too are an e-commerce retailer.

People purchase from Amazon because they want to buy books, and they join the Amazon affiliate program in order to earn affiliate rewards when they refer books. People purchase from Karatbars because they want to acquire smaller, transaction-friendly weights of the highest asset class of private issue (not subject to arbitrary government recall or sanctions) 999.9 pure gold bullion. People join the Karatbars affiliate program in order to earn affiliate rewards when those they refer purchase gold. Karatbars International has an extremely generous referral program that rewards affiliate in both cash (€) & gold (Au).

Belittling competition is NOT a good sales tactic.

I agree. That's why as hard as it was, I never said a word when you recommended Tulving.
Besides, Karatbars really has no competition. There is NO OTHER COMPANY doing what Karatbars is doing.

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What we as Karatbars affiliates have done is to crunch the numbers behind the referral rewards program, and based on those numbers, have worked out a business plan to produce certain results. It is a proven plan of action, that if followed will produce certain results, but is not mandatory to being a Karatbars affiliate or customer. It is simply an optional strategy employed by those of us who want to magnify our gold acquisitions, and achieve 5 figure passive income cash flows weekly, as well as free gold. I'd rather get paid 20,000-30,000 € in passive weekly income, along with another 6 or 7 ounces of gold per week for... saving $65 a week in gold? That's a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned.

There are two types of people in this world:
  • 1) Those who PAY to use or acquire the goods & services they like.
  • 2) Those who GET PAID to use or acquire the goods & services they like.

I simply choose to be the latter. To each his own though.  Smiley
64  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Hilarious: Undocumented fed up with partisan politics on: June 07, 2014, 09:24:48 PM
Feds say no end in sight for policy of 'dumping' illegal immigrants in Arizona, Gov. Brewer says

Published June 07, 2014

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said Friday she is “disturbed and outraged” after she was informed by federal officials that not only has the government been shipping illegal immigrants out of Texas and “dumping” them in her state, it has no plans to stop.

Federal officials told Brewer Friday that the practice will continue for the foreseeable future, and this weekend more than 1,000 illegal immigrant children will be “dumped” in Arizona. Adults and family units will also arrive, though Brewer was not told how many, her office said.

Comment: "This is payback from Obama for Arizona standing up for following immigration law.

Where's McCain the traitor?"

Where do you think he is? He's in Kiev rubbing shoulders, taking photos and palling around with terrorist neo nazis

65  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / 2014's Top Contender for a Darwin Award on: June 07, 2014, 08:27:57 PM
And here we have 2014's top contender for a Darwin Award!

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66  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: RHODIUM....cheaper than Platinum now. on: June 06, 2014, 08:20:08 AM
Of course I did, I used them a lot, shame what happened.....I never had an issue.

You say that like it was a one-off fluke, but we've seen his act before. He did the exact same thing in the early 90's. If you never had an issue with him, you probably hadn't bought very much or in the past year if at all.

I just googled it this I'm going to go with gainesville coin from Florida, my backup  Undecided

This morning? You're late to the party my friend, 'cause this happened some time ago, and with all the preceding red flags. Gainesville coin? Good Luck with that. {sigh} Will people never learn from the past? Roll Eyes
67  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: RHODIUM....cheaper than Platinum now. on: June 06, 2014, 01:20:59 AM
Well exactly.  You don't want to hold or own this junk.  Just control a futures contract  over a time period and exploit a price differential. (If you guessed right.)

Do you look for "formations" in technical charts? Or do you just do fundamentals?

Having control over a futures contract isn't all it's cracked up to be. When pricing mechanisms are "fixed" by entities whose positions conflict again your own, having control of the contract leaves you completely NOT in control, and subject to hefty margins that can cause you to lose your money and position.

Why do you think Barclays just got hit with a £26 million fine ($44 million USD) ?

You can rest assured as more & more futures contracts reach maturation, we're going to see another huge smash in the gold price soon, as central banks look to cover their short positions. When this happens, positions are stopped out. When it comes to precious metals as money or financial insurance, you're better off taking actual physical than a piece of paper. IOU's from the DTCC aren't worth the paper they're not even written on.
68  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: RHODIUM....cheaper than Platinum now. on: June 06, 2014, 12:57:59 AM
Taking actual delivery of commodities is a mistake.  The only real way to make significant money is through futures trading.  Be warned though, most don't make money.

It depends on the entity, and the actual commodity involved. If you're Weston bakeries for example, you're going to want to take actual delivery on all that wheat. If you're Tysons, you're going to want to take delivery of those 4 tons of pork bellies, and if you're an individual looking for wealth insurance, you're going to want delivery or at least fulfillment of your physical gold.

The only way "people" make money on future's trading is to be part of the mechanism that fixes the prices.
69  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: RHODIUM....cheaper than Platinum now. on: June 06, 2014, 12:50:03 AM
on metals I dont I buy physical through Tulving

But at one time you DID recommend them, ...before they went out of business and took people's money.   Cry
70  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Industry Business Technology Board / Re: George Soros sells all shares of Citigroup, BofA & JP Morgan. What does he know? on: June 01, 2014, 05:59:05 PM
I'm not a fan of Citi or BAC.

I do kinda like JPM, and I heard one of the other big billionaires who is a major JPM shareholder the other day saying Jamie Dimon is perhaps the top CEO in the world in his opinion. I like WFC and Goldman better though.

Soros - like everyone else - is not always right on everything.

Of course he does, ...look at what he's done. Not only that, ...but he got taxpayer money, stayed out of jail,
...and has the top guns saying he's too big to jail? ...despite Holder's recent flip flop, he's still walking free.
71  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 3 ways America should be more like Canada on: May 31, 2014, 12:27:50 AM
Not entirely true, considering there were banks that received funds that did not ask for it, but received money anyway, to obscure the identities of some of the banks that were most in jeopardy.  You also don't voluntarily pay 100 cents on the dollar for toxic assets, many of which Goldman Sachs under-wrote.   

HA! They didn't voluntarily pay 100 cents on the dollar for toxic assets underwritten by Goldman Sachs.
Goldman Sachs told them to do it, ...and it has always been Goldman Sachs calling the shots and issuing orders.
72  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Christian Boy Dies For 3 Minutes, Meets Allah in Heaven on: May 30, 2014, 09:51:43 PM

I will do as you suggest and research it more, including asking some of my great aunts(if I can get 'em to answer the phone!).  They're jewish and won't lie to me.    Be well.

How is your research coming along?
Here, let me help you out:
73  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Christian Boy Dies For 3 Minutes, Meets Allah in Heaven on: May 30, 2014, 09:46:34 PM
I shake the dust of your from my feet.  And no, I am not joking. 

Did you call your Grandma's sisters yet?  Huh
74  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Christian Boy Dies For 3 Minutes, Meets Allah in Heaven on: May 30, 2014, 09:38:26 PM
Wonderful. Muslims are rotten.

Excuse me? Does nobody read anymore? Your enemies are a big F-word.
They're not Muslims, ...or did you attend an American public school?
75  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Press Secretary of mis-information resigns on: May 30, 2014, 09:33:45 PM
LOL... Palin's qualifications? What a fucking joke.

While the particulars may differ, she's no different than Obama as far as I'm concerned. They're both vacuous, rable-rousing demagogues, who managed to seduce a largely ill-informed and mildly idiotic electorate. Still, I give them both props for getting as far as they have. It's no easy feat, and they've done it.

The prospect of Palin in the White House terrifies me - just as the prospect of Obama did (and does) - albeit for different reasons. Perhaps it's because I want Presidents that aren't partisan hacks and have integrity and a functioning brain.

As for Hillary, my opinion isn't much different, except that I don't consider her vacuous. I think she is a genuinely smart and naturally gifted politician. That doesn't mean that I support her or that I think she's qualified to be President - quite the opposite in fact: I disagree with her on just about every topic and don't want her in the White House.

See that's interesting because while we have similar assessments of Hillary, it is her very intelligence, and those political gifts that scare me. People like Palin are highly predictable and transparent, but Hillary can seriously pull the wool over a lot of people's eyes. I have seen her take down some big prey. Schooled the man at his own game, ...and it did not end well r him.
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