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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 2013 is almost ending and still many Getbiggers dont understand BB is all drugs on: December 26, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
Greatest natural of all time, wish Patrick Banya would post here again.

It's nice to know a few people still remember me.  Happy holidays, everyone!  Smiley
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who are the "trusted" naturals on this site? on: April 10, 2012, 01:38:44 AM
He says top AMATURE. local shows.  your carrying more massand condition than any of the olympia top 5 did naturally. so your saying your not on hrt at the very least?

I'm not on any hormones and I never have been.  The only supplements I've ever used are whey protein and a multivitamin.  I know the mentality around here, and I don't expect you to believe me, but that's the truth.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who are the "trusted" naturals on this site? on: April 09, 2012, 11:02:08 PM
Pat ive never even seen a nabba show winner juiced to the gills in your condition and you want people to buy that shit. if this were true your 3 years away from being mr o and a millionaire if you get on a gh15 cycle. whats stopping you big man

This isn't a fact and there's no way to determine how well anyone will respond to drugs without actually taking them.  I don't have anything against people who use them, but I don't think they're worth the health risk.

According to GH15, anyone can get to the top with enough drugs, so what's stopping you?


Yes your genetics are so great your waist is wider than your shoulders and you about 5'7.

Get the fuck out of here patty banana, your build is all drugs and you still look average.

Sorry champ, we can't all be at your level.  Hopefully, one day, I can gain your approval.

xoxoxoxo.  Grin
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Who are the "trusted" naturals on this site? on: April 07, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
no no, natural is not "what can i get away with" "what isnt on a band list" "whats a legal prohormone" "what isnt a steroid but will increase fat loss".

Natural is food and protein powder. You're only kidding yourself if you think anything other than this.

This is me. 100% natural!



I agree.  The problem is when you look "too good" people are going to be skeptical.  I've come to accept that it's impossible to convince anyone who is staunch in their opinion of an attainable physique.  The fact is, some people can develop themselves to a level that others can't, but that shouldn't discourage you from trying to be your best!  

No one can determine your limit based on how tall you are, or what you look like in photographs.  The only way to reach your full potential is to invest the time and work required to get there.  But, the forum experts seem to know the extent of everyone's genetics.  If anything, this place is very entertaining.  Carry on.  Smiley
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Thanks a lot Pat Banya....Geez f...kin on: January 31, 2012, 12:08:39 AM
No no, Pat did send the E-mail, but he sent it so that Vince wouldnt send him the kit, not knowing that Vince already(supposedly) sent one, but Vince made it out so that we think he got the kit then sent the E-mail, which would make Pat look even worse.

This much is true.  Thank you.  Yesterday (01.30.12), was my first time contacting Vince since I gave him my address, two weeks ago.  I've been patiently waiting for the kit, and so far nothing has arrived.
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Thanks a lot Pat Banya....Geez f...kin on: January 30, 2012, 10:29:21 PM
I have not received the kit that Vince claims to have sent in the mail.  He claims to have sent it 2 weeks ago.  I reside in VA and his business is based in NC.  Perhaps he sent it to the wrong address?  This was the reply I sent to Vince a couple hours ago.



Taking a drug test (at any given time) and passing has never been an issue for me.  My only qualm has been in funding it.  The original discussion was pertaining to IOC drug testing.  According to Kyomu, an IOC test costs around $300.  I will not spend that much just to pass and prove something that I already know.  If members of the board want proof then you should be willing to fund the test. 

In the original thread, which has since been edited, it was Vince who came in (unrequested) and offered to send me a home drug test.  I never once asked him for anything.  It was his idea, he offered to send it to me, and I was very grateful.  If the kit does ever make it's way to my address, I will take the test and post the results on facebook and in my thread, on the positive board.
7  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: TO MR. PAT BANYA on: January 16, 2012, 08:41:01 PM
You can't prove that. gh15 will never expose himself, you can deny it until you're blue in the face, but those of us in the know, know you're gh15. Wink Wink

That's news to me... mate  Grin
8  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: TO MR. PAT BANYA on: January 16, 2012, 08:17:56 PM
oddly silent

I think GH15 is good at what he does, but you don't need drugs to compete.  And if you model you can choose to shoot art nudes instead of porn.  Bodybuilding is like anything else in life.  There's lots of options and choices at your disposal.
9  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: TO MR. PAT BANYA on: January 16, 2012, 06:49:04 PM
Pat seems like a nice guy.

You've been pretty level headed in all this.  Thanks.
10  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: TO MR. PAT BANYA on: January 16, 2012, 04:47:01 PM
What would this test prove?


Passing a drug test will prove he's natural?  That's about as useless as just flat out asking him.   Obviously he (and other scum bags) have perfected the art of using short esters so they can pass tests.  


Like I said before, Banya is easily the biggest douche bag on this site.

This is the reason why I can't get any respect.  Not just here, but sometimes IRL.  It's wrong to judge a person only on how they look.  I will pass the test, any test, because I can never fail.  Lifetime naturals can't fail; that's a fact.
11  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: TO MR. PAT BANYA on: January 16, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
Do you want to know what is really interesting Mr Pat Banya???
You get the most hate from 2 guy (Kyomu and Che) that claim to be natural too!
I don't know if you,Che or Kyomu are really natural or all 3 of you are on steroid and I am willing to take your words for true just like I take Kyomu and Che for true!
My guess is that Che and Kyomu are invidious of your muscular development because even if you guys are all 3 natural or on steroid you are a better bodybuilder than Che and Kyomou! Wink

My friend, I'm not better than anyone, I'm just trying to be my best.  I actually have self esteem issues and bodybuilding helps me to cope with that.
12  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: TO MR. PAT BANYA on: January 16, 2012, 04:08:52 PM
Go fuck yourself.

 Cry
I still don't get the hostility.  I'm not trying to put anyone down or hurt peoples feelings.  I'm sorry If I said something in a previous post that made you guys angry at me.  I really do want to be on good terms with you even if it's just online.
13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: TO MR. PAT BANYA on: January 16, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
How easy is it to cheat a drug test?  Huh

He could prove himself if getbiggers can set up a fund for him to get tested by an independent lab?

Which one of us bitches is willing to put their money where their mouth is?  Cool

Since I'm willing to take the test, without any incentive, I think I should at least have the cost of the test covered by the members who are calling me out.  Come to Springfield, meet me in person and shake my hand if you want to give it to me in person.  Or I can meet you in Washington DC or somewhere close.

I remember that the test was around 300$.
If you take the test, i wish you good luck!
And that certificate will be huge merit to your personal training business.

kyomu, for the record, I don't have a personal training business.
14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 15, 2012, 01:40:41 AM
Friends,

As you all know, I only just recently started posting here.  My intention for requesting an account was to share my experiences as a lifetime natural competitive bodybuilder.  Although my competition experience is very limited, I have been an overall champion in 4 out of 5 contests.

2010 NPC Team Universe Championships Open Men's Light-Heavy Weight 4th Place.
2010 Musclemania Universe Professional Champion.
2010 Musclemania Capital Tournament of Champions Open Men's Overall Champion.
2009 NPC Lenda Murray Championships Open Men's Overall Champion.
2009 NPC East Coast Classic Novice Men's Overall Champion.

Because of this, I thought that I would be respected and could provide some valuable insight into what is required to compete at that level.  Over my many years of following the sport, it has come to my attention that there is a long held misconception in competitive bodybuilding.  This 'myth' is that the only way to be successful in bodybuilding (competitive or otherwise) is to take steroids or other hormonal enhancements.  It is one that both the fans and people who know nothing about the sport seem to accept as fact.

By truly being the genuine item, a lifetime natural, my success has shown that this is not true.  For some people, taking the natural approach is a very hard pill to swallow.  The results may not come as quickly and the gains might not look as impressive as the enhanced variety.  But, if you are willing to stick with it for a very long time, it can be very rewarding.  Furthermore, I do not understand why natural athletes are looked down upon so frequently within our subculture/ community.  Bodybuilding is not a mainstream sport, and we should be willing to support it in all it's incarnations.

My intention is not to come across as overly proud or self righteous.  My beliefs and approach to bodybuilding, has been rooted into the core of my being after thirteen years of recreational involvement.  For me, the risks involved with taking drugs (steroids) are not worth it.  The high likelihood of issues like high blood pressure, heart disease, and impotence [Google.com] far outweigh any perceived benefit that can be attained from taking them.  Please bear in mind, as I am saying this, I am in no way looking down on anyone else.  If it is your prerogative to use drugs, then that is your business.  I just don't want to know anything about it.

I will not be deleting my account, but I will no longer be posting in this particular thread because of the derogatory comments you have made about several of my friends.  I do not want to repeat any of those statements or phrases because they were very rude and hurtful.  The people who know me in real life, and support my ambition are not a part of this discussion.  By posting their pictures and making negative comments about them you are crossing the line.

For me, being ridiculed is nothing new.  This is something which I have had to deal with for pretty much my entire life.  In my blog (http://patbanya.blogspot.com/), I talk about the insecurities I had growing up because I have a very unique name.  I also talk about being clumsy and terrible at sports.  I am by no stretch of the imagination, a "perfect" human being.  If you have seen some of my early posing routines which are on my youtube channel (http://www.you.com/patbanya) you will see I am far from perfect.

My use of that word in some of my videos is in homage to personalities like the now deceased WWF wrestler Curt Hennig, aka Mr. Perfect.  As a child, I was a fan of his personality and in the ring antics.  I felt that by adopting that moniker, my videos would get more views and I would develop something of a following. 

I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this entire thread, this post, and making comments.  Even though not everything that has been said here is very positive, I have a feeling that the majority of them were just jokes.  I do not take anything personally and I am not holding a grudge against any of you.  You guys are great, and I really do consider you my Getbig.com friends.

I will continue to log on to answer any personal messages you might send my way.  Remember, I am the natural alternative to GH15.  So there are plenty of things that I won't know anything about or be able to help you with.  But, if you are interested in following my example, I have a feeling that any one of you could achieve great success in natural bodybuilding.  Good luck to you all and please continue to do what you do best here at the Getbig.com forums.  In my mind, you have earned your distinction as, the "Thunderdome." Smiley

P.S.

Ron (Forum Owner and Moderator),

Thank you for honoring my request by monitoring this thread.  I have a feeling, if it were not for your help and intervention, things could have been much worse.  You are a great person who I also consider a friend.  In the future, if there is ever an opportunity, I would like to be a contributor to this website.
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 2012 Arnold Classic - Official Competitor Lists for the contests on: January 13, 2012, 01:28:56 AM
Hmmm....are you the source for him...or vice versa?

No sir.  He and I are both proteges of former Mr. Universe and Natural IFBB Pro Yohnnie Shambourger.  Yohnnie helped me to practice my posing routine as I prepared for the 2010 Musclemania Universe in Miami.  Due to his encouragement, I ended up winning the Professional Division title at that show.
16  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 13, 2012, 01:13:28 AM
Someone just emailed these to me.  The strange thing was, when I checked my page, all of these comments had been cleared.  I think facebook is now monitoring the people who make comments on my page after I reported the fake pages that were being created.  







It feels good to know that some of you actually believe that I am a lifetime natural bodybuilder, and you support the positive message that I'm a trying to spread.  I knew that this place wasn't as bad as they say it was!  

During the week, I really am busy with work, and I can't post or reply to PMs.  But I will not be leaving you guys anytime soon.  On either Saturday or Sunday night I'll address this entire thread as a whole, so please look forward to my next post.  It will address everything that is on my mind after I finish reading the pages that came after my last post on page 26.  For now, I bid you farewell.  Cheers! Smiley
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kris Gethin a life time natural... on: January 08, 2012, 11:48:50 PM
Kris Gethin over from bbing.com claims to be a life time natural who never has used steroids/hormones. He claims this on his 12 week training video plus at various other points... See the pictures below and discuss....



This was achieved in 12 weeks



Looking big next to Dorian for a natural..



hmm...

Man, he looks awesome!  I'm really impressed.
18  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 08, 2012, 11:47:23 PM
Does Pat Banya use this shit?





No, I think it's overpriced.  Standard whey has worked for me.  I'm not going to plug any companies, but try to find something cost effective.
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 08, 2012, 10:10:09 PM
Natural?  Grin

Natural bodybuilding?

Bro, if you came across as a more sincere and humble person in the way of doing things and really wanting to share your knowledge and insight, instead of claiming natural -- you would be much more respected. I have been in and out of the gym for nearly 15 years, when your "type" make  natural claims - people call it like it is. I have done this so many times face to face, it's almost natural as breathing.

By the way, the "naturals" usually smile and walk away when push comes to shove. You know we're not all that naive here.  Shocked

Nice post, but you're misinformed.  Those 15 years haven't been spent trying to develop a pro physique.  If they were, you would think differently.  In all honesty, I'm as sincere as they come.  And, I try my best to be humble, but sometimes I like to joke around a bit.  However, I don't feel the need to brag around you guys, because we get along so well, and you guys get it.  Let's try to unify this sport, not separate it.  

I'm doing everything in my power to share my knowledge of natural bodybuilding with you.  That's the whole reason behind this thread.  You guys are so deluded into thinking that you have to take "stuff."  That isn't the case for everybody; if you have the right genetics you can look something like a pro with many years of hard work and dedication.  Eating, training, and sleeping, it's truly a lifestyle that you have to adhere to 24/7.

There's more than one way to bodybuild.  Drugs aren't necessary if you want to be your best.  You only need them to become the best.  I will never be the best.  I'm fine with that, and can live with my choice.  I respect you, and you respect me, it's that simple.
20  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 08, 2012, 09:51:51 PM
I think we all have met one point in time guy like Pat. I meet this guy in the gym time to time who I call "champion". This guy is 57 years old, has 20.5 inch guns and weighs about 245(5'10). What is similar to Pat he's christian and offcourse you guessed it -  lifetime natural. It's amazing how advanced he is.

Like Pat he's also very gentleman-like and that's offcourse helps him to deal with the accusations of others(real life isn't like getbig so being nice helps Cheesy ). He said to me jokingly "man I hate these wispers I get. Wispers of me using something". I thought "well there's no expert who would believe you. Even for a user you would be extremely advanced for your age"

So I said. "Champ I've always believed that you're natural. No matter what others say"

Beautiful story. Smiley

Thanks for sharing this.  I have a friend that calls me the same thing.  Whatever his reasons, it makes me feel great.
21  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 08, 2012, 04:34:23 PM
So, you came to Getbig for Friends? Are you fuckin serious?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

In a way, yes.  I visit the forums so I can talk to people with a common interest and share my own personal insights and experiences.  It's okay to be a little skeptical, at times, but if you're  like that all the time, you'll never grow or learn anything.  Natural bodybuilding is much more capable of holding it's own to the enhanced version.  I'm proof of that!
22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 08, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
You haven't answered a single question honestly, so people have understandably moved on to a group discussion format.

You don't want to believe the truth mate.  There's no convincing someone who already has their mind made up.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 17 year old on bodybuilding.com steroid cycle results on: January 08, 2012, 01:07:07 PM
Someone send him a link to the Pat Banya thread to show what he can achieve with just hard work

This.  Someone really should enlighten this young man.  I would be more than happy to. Smiley
24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 08, 2012, 12:14:49 PM
Patty, what do you consider "drugs"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug
25  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Natural Bodybuilding / Re: Pat Banya - Natural Bodybuilding Q&A on: January 08, 2012, 12:09:29 PM
Pat banya, can you tell us how long you have been clean?

I'm lifetime natural, there's a difference.  I don't judge any of you guys who choose to do things differently.  Please don't judge me for being dedicated to staying drug free.
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