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1  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 27, 2014, 09:39:43 AM
Why? Who's to say he wouldn't have kicked off at the same age if he didn't inject his body with all sorts of chemicals? Maybe he actually lived longer because he worked out.

I doubt it but that's a cool thought -- I wonder if I can get my wife to buy the idea, lol.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: The Liberal Model Of Governance on: July 27, 2014, 09:35:05 AM
Not going to go through those one by one, but it looks like most if not all of those cities listed are ran by liberals.

Yeah, maybe. (I'm too lazy to check, too, lol.)

Not sure if it's so much a conservative/liberal thing.  Probably has more to do with the percentage of the population that is poor as hell.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: The Liberal Model Of Governance on: July 27, 2014, 02:38:18 AM
Chicago= Liberal Utopia

Coming soon to your city...

http://heyjackass.com/

What are you saying?  That websites like heyjackass for Chicago will be created for some other cities?

Or are you trying to say that Chicago is a particularly dangerous place if you're worried about being murdered?

Because...

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/07/24/six-cities-with-worst-murder-rates-in-united-states/

Six Cities With Worst Murder Rates In United States
July 24, 2014 12:52 PM

By John Dodge

CHICAGO (CBS) — During roughly the past three decades, there have been six cities that have been the worst for murders, per capita.

If you said Chicago made that list you would be …

Wrong.

As CBS Chicago correspondent Mason Johnson has reported in great detail, Chicago is not the “murder capital” of anything.

Officially the FBI states the Chicago metro area murder rate is about 7 per 100,000 residents, but that includes much more than just the city itself.

Within the city limits, that rate climbs to around 18–about four times the national average rate of around 4.7 murders per 100,000 people.

Obviously, that is too many murders. In recent years, New York City and Los Angeles have fewer murders than Chicago.

Still, that figure comes nowhere close to the worst rates historically in the United States.

Here is the breakdown, according to an analysis by Pew Research. The number represents the highest murder rate during the time the city held the title of so-called “Murder Capital Of The United States.”

1985-1987: Detroit, 58.2 murders per 100,000 residents

1988-1992: Washington, D.C. 71.9

1993-1995: New Orleans 85.8

1996: Washington, D.C.

1997: Richmond, Va.

1998-1999: Washington, D.C.

2000-2004: New Orleans, 42.1

2005: Birmingham, Ala 44.3

2006: Detroit

2007-2009: New Orleans, 94.7 (2007, the highest rate during the years studied)

2010: Flint, Mich.

2011: New Orleans

2012: Flint, Mich. 62

That’s six cities that have swapped with each other for worst murder rates in the past 27 years. Two cities, New Orleans and Washington have had the worst murder problem for 19 of those 27 years.

New Orleans has ranked No. 1 for 11 of those years.

Washington D.C. for 8 eight.

While the statistics for this year won’t be available until 2015, Chicago is basically on pace for the same amount of murders as 2013, and much lower than 2012.

One can expect to see its murder rate to remain about the same, or perhaps a bit lower that 18/100,000, and nowhere near the worst in the country.

4  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 27, 2014, 02:21:03 AM
Lets take it a step further. In the 1990's I worked at on of the district's high schools. The students had a smoking area out under a covered porch. Smoking has been banned in school for decades. I say that is a violation of our kid's freedom. Heck even the adults can't smoke at school any longer. The government has no business banning smoking if the kids wish to do it. Makes no difference if it's supposedly bad for them.

Why should young folks have to wait until they are 21 to drink alcohol legally? Some start drinking sooner then allowed under law. In Germany, it is primarily up to parents to decide if their kids can have a drink. Do that here and the parents go to jail. I say lift the ban on underage drinking, give young folks back their freedom.

No doubt some high school kids are using steroids. What's with banning them anyway? If you want to get buff the easy way and risk dying young, why should the government interfere?

Another gripe of mine is seat belts. Not only do kids have to wear them, so does everyone else, except maybe the cops. They didn't even have seat belts when I was a kid....couldn't have worn one if I wanted. I enjoyed riding around in my parents convertible with the top down, wind blowing through my hair and the thrill of maybe getting tossed out of the car really made the ride thrilling. Damn government interference!


Your family had a convertible? 

Not my family.  For us to get that wind through the hair feeling us kids would need to get a ride in the back of my uncle's pickup truck.  And seatbelts?  Hell, there weren't even seats.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama Declares War On Chic-Fil-A on: July 27, 2014, 02:14:34 AM
Complete horse shit, how long you live is based on genetics plain and simple.

Nasser's family probably doesn't think this. Sad
6  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel and Gaza - discussion on: July 27, 2014, 02:13:01 AM
I agree. Israel has gone too far.

To level the playing field, the IDF should indiscriminately execute Israeli citizens on a daily basis until the death toll on both sides is proportional.

 Once that occurs, the Palestinians will lay down their weapons and agree to a permanent cease fire.

 Roll Eyes


I see.  Hey, if you get the time, maybe you'd like to give your rationale for why the IDF's actions ARE justified. 

So as to stay on subject, though, please include why you think such a large percentage of the US public seems to disagree (with the notion that the IDF's actions are justified), could ya?

The article below, from www.theamericanconservat ive.com, might be of interest:

Gaza and U.S. Public Opinion
By Daniel Larison • July 24, 2014, 5:59 PM

Gallup finds that Americans are split on the question of whether Israel’s actions in Gaza have been justified or not. Overall, 42% say that they are justified, 39% say they are not, and 20% have no opinion. These results are comparable to a Gallup poll taken during the second intifada twelve years ago, but there are slightly more on the ‘unjustified’ side than there were then.
...
It is striking how evenly divided the public is on this question when there is total uniformity among political leaders in the U.S. that Israel is justified in what it has been doing. There is always a significant gap between popular and elite views on foreign policy issues, but it is still fairly unusual for a view held by almost 40% of Americans to have virtually no representation in Congress.


More here:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/gaza-and-u-s-public-opinion/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gaza-and-u-s-public-opinion
7  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: How can anyone support Hamas when they do things like this? on: July 27, 2014, 01:49:11 AM
That's the dumbest analogy I have ever read.


I don't doubt that.  Did you notice who it was for, though?
8  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Poll: One-third say impeach Obama on: July 26, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
Link?

Not exactly the link you've asked for but I believe it's good enough to support chadstallion's implied point that there are a lot of dumb mo-fo's in the USA:

The US has one of the highest levels of public belief in biblical or other religious accounts of the origins of life on earth among industrialized countries.

According to a 2007 Gallup poll, about 43% of Americans believe that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." This is only slightly less than the 46% reported in a 2006 Gallup poll. Only 14% believed that "human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process", despite 49% of respondents indicating they believed in evolution. Belief in creationism is inversely correlated to education; only 22% of those with post-graduate degrees believe in strict creationism.A 2000 poll for People for the American Way found 70% of the American public felt that evolution was compatible with a belief in God.


From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution
9  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Why should Norway have to deal with this shit? on: July 26, 2014, 10:29:38 AM
I hope they brought their jackets.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel warns it may further expand Gaza operation on: July 26, 2014, 10:28:30 AM
Israel engages in terrorism too. They don't follow the rules either. The U.N. has been highly critical of Israel and if it weren't for the U.S, Israel would have long been blacklisted by the world for their crimes against humanity and ever increasing illegal settlements.

Hmmm. You seem to know more about this issue than some others on this thread.  Seem like some folks see the word "terrorist" and that's all they need to know.

I don't endorse this view but a Palestinian commenter on another site said, "Getting mad at Palestinians for lobbing ineffective rockets at Israel is like getting mad at a woman for slapping her rapist."   I'm not sure how Israel has been "raping" Palestine but this comment does give me food for thought.

Ex-Israeli soldier speaks out… what he says will change everything you think you know about Israel!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93hqlmrZKd8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93hqlmrZKd8</a>

The talk by Eran Efrati was filmed in Denver, Colorado on March 3, 2014 as part of The Soldier and the Refusenik U.S. tour with Maya Wind. Eran talk about his experiences in the IDF and then more broadly discusses Israel, its relationship to the U.S. and the global expansion of militarism.

Eran Efrati, 28, was born and raised in Jerusalem. After graduating high school he enlisted in the IDF, where he served as a combat soldier and company sergeant in Battalion 50 of the Nachal Division. He spent most of his service in Hebron and throughout the West Bank. In 2009, he was discharged and joined Breaking the Silence, an organization of veteran Israeli soldiers working to raise awareness about the daily reality in the Occupied Territories. He worked as the chief investigator of the organization, collecting testimonies from IDF soldiers about their activities. He also guided political tours and to the West Bank and worked to educate Israeli youth about the reality of being a soldier in an occupying army. His collected testimonies appear in the booklet “Operation Cast Lead” and their most recent release “Our Harsh Logic”. Since leaving Breaking the Silence, his investigative reports appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Guardian. Today he is active with the Israeli groups Anarchists Against the Wall and Boycott from Within.


More here:
http://www.digital-resistance.com/insight/ex-israeli-soldier-speaks-out-shocking-truth-about-israel/
11  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel and Gaza - discussion on: July 26, 2014, 10:17:52 AM
Almost all major news organizations around the world are Jewish owned. Why does the mainstream media worldwide demonize Israel?  Huh

Maybe because Israel is going too far?  

For me, it's Israel's blatant PR campaign that grates.  

Personally, as a half-portagee from CA, I have no dog in this fight so I'm apt to take the view of some others that when the powerful and the not-so-powerful clash militarily then the weaker side is gonna likely to get smashed.  It's not pleasant but it's nothing new.  

What offends me and motivates me to weigh in on this old and complicated conflict which involves plenty of blame for both sides is not the military action of Israel (which I find fairly unremarkable) but the fact that they're simultaneously conducting a full-scale PR campaign to paint themselves as innocent victims while giving a lopsided beating to Palestine.  It's offensive to me because it's so heavy-handed that it seems to bespeak of an utter lack of respect for their PR campaign's intended audience.  (Translation:  They must think all Americans are a bunch of fucking retards to buy what they're selling.)

Rant over, lol.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel and Gaza - discussion on: July 26, 2014, 01:27:26 AM
Krauthammer sums it so nicely....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-oped-krauthammer-on-moral-clarity-0721-20140721,0,199395.column

Hamas isn't interested in coexistence...they want to eradicate Israel.   

Some kind of funky paywall preventing me from reading this.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Anti gun nuts & cops upset that cops dont get sole decision on who owns guns on: July 26, 2014, 01:10:39 AM
I hope you dont consider my posts in the other thread that I feel police should be given leniency if they abuse their duties.

...


Haha, that's my fault that you might think that.  I don't think you feel that way at all.  Quite the contrary, in fact.

I thought you'd be interested because I think that you're not into giving up rights no matter what party wants you to give them up.

I feel the same way (though we likely differ some when it comes to which rights we're most concerned about losing).

14  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Anti gun nuts & cops upset that cops dont get sole decision on who owns guns on: July 25, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/24/police-chiefs-gun-rights-advocates-at-odds-over-discretion-in-massachusetts/

Police chiefs in Massachusetts are blasting state lawmakers for shooting down a provision that would have given them sole discretion over who can get hunting rifle or shotgun permits, regardless of criminal records.

“Our position is really very, very simple,” said Wayne Sampson, executive director of the Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association. “We, as an association, believe that it’s unconscionable that if we determine a person is unsuitable to carry a handgun, that they can then turn around and apply for a Firearms Identification Card, which allows them, by law, to purchase rifles and shotguns. And there’s no way we can impose any restrictions on that. It just doesn’t make sense.”

Tony, not sure if you saw this article which is from, of all places, the staunchly conservative National Review Online website, but it might interest you:

 July 21, 2014 6:10 PM
It’s Time for Conservatives to Stop Defending Police
There is nothing conservative about government violating the rights of citizens.

By A. J. Delgado

Imagine if I were to tell you there is a large group of government employees, with generous salaries and ridiculously cushy retirement pensions covered by the taxpayer, who enjoy incredible job security and are rarely held accountable even for activities that would almost certainly earn the rest of us prison time. When there is proven misconduct, these government employees are merely reassigned and are rarely dismissed. The bill for any legal settlements concerning their errors? It, too, is covered by the taxpayers. Their unions are among the strongest in the country.

No, I’m not talking about public-school teachers.

I’m talking about the police.

We conservatives recoil at the former; yet routinely defend the latter — even though, unlike teachers, police officers enjoy an utter monopoly on force and can ruin — or end — one’s life in a millisecond.

For decades, conservatives have served as stalwart defenders of police forces. There have been many good reasons for this, including long memories of the post-countercultural crime wave that devastated, and in some cases destroyed, many American cities; conservatives’ penchant for law and order; and Americans’ widely shared disdain for the cops’ usual opponents. (“Dirty hippies being arrested? Good!” is not an uncommon sentiment.) Although tough-on-crime appeals have never been limited to conservative politicians or voters, conservatives instinctively (and, it turned out, correctly) understood that the way to reduce crime is to have more cops making more arrests, not more sociologists identifying more root causes. Conservatives are rightly proud to have supported police officers doing their jobs at times when progressives were on the other side.

But it’s time for conservatives’ unconditional love affair with the police to end.

Let’s get the obligatory disclaimer out of the way: Yes, many police officers do heroic works and, yes, many are upstanding individuals who serve the community bravely and capably.

But respecting good police work means being willing to speak out against civil-liberties-breaking thugs who shrug their shoulders after brutalizing citizens.


More of this great read here: 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/383312/its-time-conservatives-stop-defending-police-j-delgado
15  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Police State - Official Thread on: July 25, 2014, 03:52:49 PM
 July 21, 2014 6:10 PM
It’s Time for Conservatives to Stop Defending Police
There is nothing conservative about government violating the rights of citizens.

By A. J. Delgado

Imagine if I were to tell you there is a large group of government employees, with generous salaries and ridiculously cushy retirement pensions covered by the taxpayer, who enjoy incredible job security and are rarely held accountable even for activities that would almost certainly earn the rest of us prison time. When there is proven misconduct, these government employees are merely reassigned and are rarely dismissed. The bill for any legal settlements concerning their errors? It, too, is covered by the taxpayers. Their unions are among the strongest in the country.

No, I’m not talking about public-school teachers.

I’m talking about the police.

We conservatives recoil at the former; yet routinely defend the latter — even though, unlike teachers, police officers enjoy an utter monopoly on force and can ruin — or end — one’s life in a millisecond.

For decades, conservatives have served as stalwart defenders of police forces. There have been many good reasons for this, including long memories of the post-countercultural crime wave that devastated, and in some cases destroyed, many American cities; conservatives’ penchant for law and order; and Americans’ widely shared disdain for the cops’ usual opponents. (“Dirty hippies being arrested? Good!” is not an uncommon sentiment.) Although tough-on-crime appeals have never been limited to conservative politicians or voters, conservatives instinctively (and, it turned out, correctly) understood that the way to reduce crime is to have more cops making more arrests, not more sociologists identifying more root causes. Conservatives are rightly proud to have supported police officers doing their jobs at times when progressives were on the other side.

But it’s time for conservatives’ unconditional love affair with the police to end.

Let’s get the obligatory disclaimer out of the way: Yes, many police officers do heroic works and, yes, many are upstanding individuals who serve the community bravely and capably.

But respecting good police work means being willing to speak out against civil-liberties-breaking thugs who shrug their shoulders after brutalizing citizens.


More of this great read here: 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/383312/its-time-conservatives-stop-defending-police-j-delgado
16  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: How can anyone support Hamas when they do things like this? on: July 25, 2014, 03:41:38 PM
Condemning Israel for defending itself + bringing up how many Palestinians have been killed=supporting and condoning Hamas' actions

Hopes this helps.

Helps to reinforce my opinion that you possess the reasoning skills of a child if you really believe what you wrote.

You like things simple, right Dario?  Here's a simple comparison: 
Say I'm a kid on a playground and I see little 7-year old Johnny (Juanito? - eh, use whatever name is common in the country of your birth) make little 6-year old Jennifer cry by pulling her hair.  Then, I see Jennifer's 11-year old big brother Billy come over and pound the living shit out of Johnny until blood comes out of his nose, mouth and ears.  I mean, I get why Billy was mad enough to do that but am I really supporting Johnny and hair-pulling in general by remarking that Billy was wrong to overreact the way he did?  Am I wrong to point out that Jennifer, who is no saint, is now laughing and smiling while Johnny is so busted up he can't go back to school for a couple of weeks?

I hope you'll think about this.

And I hope it helps.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: CNN Anchor Schooled on: July 25, 2014, 11:27:12 AM
Terrorist sympathizer are ya?

What? Nooooo!   I'm a "might makes right" guy like y'all. lol

Seriously, though, I reject the notion that disapproval of Israel's actions means I support terrorism, Coach.

I don't think purse-snatchers should be executed but that doesn't mean I support purse-snatchers.   Ya feel me?
18  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: How can anyone support Hamas when they do things like this? on: July 25, 2014, 11:21:48 AM
Support in what sense?  Pretty sure no one here is sending them money.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 25, 2014, 11:17:47 AM
Listen Simpleton Simon, if you want me to read your posts, shorten them up. 

No prob, Coach.
20  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: She knew on: July 25, 2014, 10:16:33 AM
Not really parroting at all. I can see and pretty much evaluate what's going on, how he makes attempts run the country, what he and this administration are doing and not doing. As some who runs a pretty successful business as small as t might be, I still have a pretty good business sense and know when changes should be made. I look at what he and his administration are doing as a business. This man or administration has no clue about how to run a business.

Coach, I'm sorry to speak harshly because I think I understand you some and I'm not interested in you shutting up. 

You are completely entitled to stating your opinions.  I just think you should qualify the stuff you say.  This means that you should preface your conclusions with phrases like "Well it seems to me..." or "In my opinion ..."   

There are a lot of reasons to do this but I can't get into that right now because my wife is bugging me, lol.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 25, 2014, 10:08:17 AM
hahahahaha youre mistaken bacon....thats freaking awesome

Apparently Youtube took down this guy's channel pretty recently.  He used to have literally dozens of videos like this one.

I think he's going to host all his videos on his own website pretty soon, though.


22  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz on: July 25, 2014, 10:05:02 AM
Yeah.  In fact, I have great-grandkids.  I'm really 90 years old. 

Ah, OK.  That answers my question about your military service, then. 

(You were drafted during WW2, apparently, lol.)


Now tell me which one of us is constantly asking people for personal information?  (That would be you.)


Constantly?  Naw, that's an exaggeration. 

Maybe there is some unwritten internet rule about asking for personal info but I see nothing wrong with asking about whether someone has personally been in the service when they seem to fetishize the whole thing, though.  Like I've alluded to before, a lot of guys who've never served seem to do this. 


And, Simpleton Simon, what I did was save you the trouble of asking me to prove that you keep trying to use your alleged service to demean others.  You like to ask for proof, and I've embarrassed you with it in the past.  So I just saved you the trouble.

This is a slow news day and I have too much time on my hands.  lol

Really?  I guess that could be true but it doesn't make much sense (not even when you lamely throw in, "but I was bored"):
 
You're saying you did a search of my post history (ya creepy stalker, lol) solely because you anticipated that I was going to challenge your statement that I've referenced my military service multiple times in the past?  That doesn't seem likely because why would I challenge that correct statement? 
The answer is, I wouldn't.  For 3 reasons: 
1. It's true.
2. There's nothing clearly wrong with referencing one's military service. 
3. It would be beyond easy for you to prove me wrong if I'd challenged you.

So, it's not provable one way or the other but I conclude that you're lying.  I think you were hoping to bust me for having made inconsistent statements about my service but that didn't work out.  I can't say how bothered you were by that.  Probably not much since you ARE a veteran of internet pissing matches if not a veteran of actual military service, after all.

BTW, "A slow news day"?  Yeah, I agree;  Nothing going on in the world right now, is there?  LOL   
(Man, when you're not careful the lies just roll right off your tongue, don't they?)

You should try being a little more honest, BB.  Intellectually and otherwise.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Israel and Gaza - discussion on: July 25, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
I don't understand the international hierarchy one bit. Is this kind of thing just for show?

Good, thoughtful post, imo.

I have no clue about this either, btw. 
24  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: She knew on: July 25, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
How ever you want to articulate this the fact remains you don't have to be a genius to realize whats going on and that this country is going in the shitter on daily basis despite the warnings of the one's you deem "not so intellectual" be it myself or someone else. You supposedly have this great intellectual messiah that's the leader of the free world that people like you put into office (and I'll say it again) simply because you thought it would be history making just to have a black "president" regardless if he had the qualifications or not and in this case wasn't even vetted. That my friend is called voting on emotion.  

You can make all the attempts you want to criticize my upbringing but the fact remains with all of your supposed education and me being "backward" , "emotionally-stunted" and "knowing little of this world" Roll Eyes I somehow managed to see through the bullshit that you great intellectuals and critical thinkers couldn't figure out.



No, Coach, you're dumb and not sufficiently equipped to evaluate the issues you're trying weigh in on regardless of how sure you are.

BTW, This doesn't mean that the opinions you're parroting are always wrong, it just means that YOU don't know whether they're wrong or not.

If if makes you feel any better, I'm pretty sure that Hillary Clinton can't write intelligently about HIT vs volume training either.
25  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death on: July 25, 2014, 02:29:41 AM
You have a much greater chance of becoming dead if you tell a cop to fuck himself than you do if you say "yes sir"

Which is not to say that the danger is the same everywhere.

Ladies and gentleman, I present Daniel Saulmon aka Tom Zebra:
(LOL at "You're mistaken, bacon" at about 1:35)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9M3cHDvFE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9M3cHDvFE</a>
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