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51  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: If a business is not a church or individual, why this boycott? on: April 07, 2014, 12:17:54 PM

As you can see from the post above this one, you can see the talking points at work.

The point is that when it comes to the conservative view points of a business owners, libtards claim that it should not be enforced upon their employees.

Yet, libtards have no qualms with enforcing their view points on a business and their employees by threatening boycotts and demanding resignations.

By doing that, they are contradicting themselves. If a business owner or upper management employee can't dictate to an employee to comply with the business owner's personal views, why is it correct for a business owner to be told what he should believe in and be penalized for his/her personal views?  If you can't understand this simple logic, then you are very ignorant or you just don't want to admit the hypocrisy on the left.

If the left doesn't want Hobby Lobby to be given an exception on the basis that their religious belief should not be allowed to trump the rights of their employees, then the left shouldn't be boycotting a business because one of their CEOs gave a donation 6 years ago to support a law against gay "marriage".  Doesn't that CEO have a right to his own personal opinions without being penalized for it? Or do lower level employees the only ones who have rights?



"Talking points at work"?  STFU, you paranoid little know-nothing punk.  

There does not seem to be any hypocrisy here:   Are you seriously trying to say that if consumers can arbitrarily decide why they will buy something then employers should be able to arbitrarily decide conditions for employment?

Think about it (no matter how much physical pain that must cause you):  As a consumer, I can decide whether to buy something based on ANY-FUCKING-THING.

An employer cannot (and should not, imo) be able to offer employment based on just anything.  There are rules;  Paying a minimum wage and compliance with certain safety standards are just a couple of them.  

About the Hobby Lobby situation, I don't know much (and don't really GAF) but the way you were trying to equate a consumer boycott with employer-mandated conditions for employment was too much.  

You are seriously retarded, I think.
52  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Even people turn to crap after meeting him and his disgusting wife on: April 05, 2014, 06:02:56 PM

Never thought libtards would be so touchy feely.

Especially people that compared Bush to Hitler.

These are the same people that call the Koch Brothers un-american, but think illegal immigrants are American heroes.

Do you doubt that an illegal immigrant can be an American hero?

Read and learn:

Private Marcelino Serna (April 26, 1896 February 29, 1992) was an undocumented Mexican immigrant who joined the United States Army and became the most decorated soldier from Texas in World War I. Serna was the first Hispanic to be awarded the Distinguished Service Cross.

Serna was born in the city of Chihuahua, in the Mexican state of Chihuahua, to a poor family. In 1916, when he was 20 years old, Serna decided to enter the United States, by crossing the Rio Grande and going to El Paso, Texas in search of a job and better way of life. Serna, did not know how to speak English and could only find employment that paid low wages. It wasn't long before he found himself working as a farm hand in a sugar beet field in Denver, Colorado.

The United States declared war on Germany on April 6, 1917. Serna was with a group of men in Denver, when he was picked up by federal officials. He faced the possibility of being deported and before that could happen he volunteered to serve in the Army.

World War I
After his basic training Serna was sent overseas and assigned to Company B, 355th Infantry of the 89th Division. When the Army realized that he was a Mexican National, he was offered a discharge. Serna, however refused and chose to stay with his new friends.

Serna's unit was ordered to begin an advance towards the Meuse River and Argonne Forest in France. When his unit arrived at St. Mihiel, they encountered a German machine gunner who killed 12 soldiers. Serna crawled up to the machine gunner's left flank. Even though his helmet was hit twice with bullets, Serna was able to get close enough to throw four grenades into the nest. Eight Germans surrendered and the rest in the nest were dead.

On September 12, 1918, Serna's unit was engaged in combat inside the Meuse-Argonne region when he spotted a German sniper and wounded him with his Enfield rifle. Serna followed the wounded soldier to a trench. He threw three grenades into the trench which resulted in the death of 26 enemy soldiers and the capture of 24 prisoners.

Serna was wounded in both of his legs by sniper fire, four days before the Armistice. During his recovery, General John J. Pershing, Commander-in-Chief of the American Expeditionary Forces, pinned on his chest the Distinguished Service Cross, the second highest military decoration of the United States Army to the Medal of Honor. Serna was told by an officer that "Buck Privates" were not eligible for the Medal of Honor, and that he did not know enough English to be promoted. The officer in question was wrong because Private David B. Barkley who also served in the 89th Division, was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions. It so happens that years later it was discovered that Barkley was Hispanic, thus the only Hispanic recipient of the Medal of Honor in World War I. Field Marshal Ferdinand Foch, Supreme Commander of the Allied troops, awarded Serna the French Croix de Guerre for bravery.
53  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Jindal on Obamacare sign-ups: So what on: April 05, 2014, 04:30:09 PM
He's funny looking.
54  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Ex-Homeland Chief Napolitano: No Mercy for Edward Snowden on: April 05, 2014, 04:16:05 PM

A lot of my Marine friends said the same thing.. who cares if he puts us at risk, our job is to be at risk, our governments job is to protect the citizens rights and freedoms.


Incredibly well said.  I'm in awe (and will be stealing this to use on other forums).
55  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Congress is says stupid Democrat..Shows the most unethical and on: April 05, 2014, 04:11:31 PM
Fuckers barely work.  Their aids handle most of the day to day business.  This frees them up to do what they do best, raising campaign funds.

Isn't it the fucked up system requiring stupid amounts of cash to become elected (every 2 years) that forces them to be in constant campaign fund-raising mode, though?   

And isn't that system the same one that rewards moneyed interests over that of the common man?

I'm pretty sure most congress-folks would prefer to focus on policy and their constituent's needs over raising money but until some badly-needed campaign finance reform takes place, that's the way the game is played.

Shit's retahded, yo.
56  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 78% Favor Proof of Citizenship Before Being Allowed to Vote on: April 05, 2014, 03:53:38 PM
RRKore, care to list which local elections non-citizens are allowed to vote in?

Why?  Are you not familiar with the Google?

Anyway, here's one:  City elections in Takoma Park, Maryland. 

Green card holders (who are not citizens) have apparently been able to vote in city elections there since 1992.

The google tells of more, but I'm gonna give you credit for knowing how to look them up on your own.

Now, what's your point?
57  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: If a business is not a church or individual, why this boycott? on: April 05, 2014, 03:38:09 PM
If liberals argue that the religious belief of the owners of Hobby Lobby should not be protected because it is somehow seen as them imposing their beliefs on their employees, then why boycott Mozilla and cause his resignation?

If Hobby Lobby is seen as encroaching on their employees'r rights and personal beliefs, why do these liberals think it's then correct to boycott this company simply because it's CEO made a contribution in support of a law that he personally believed in?
Mozilla CEO resigns, opposition to gay marriage drew fire

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Mozilla Chief Executive Brendan Eich has stepped down, the company said on Thursday, after an online dating service urged a boycott of the company's web browser because of a donation Eich made to opponents of gay marriage.

The software company came under fire for appointing Eich as CEO last month. In 2008, he gave money to oppose the legalization of gay marriage in California, a hot-button issue especially at a company that boasts about its policy of inclusiveness and diversity.

"We didn't act like you'd expect Mozilla to act," wrote Mozilla Executive Chairwoman Mitchell Baker in a blog post. "We didn't move fast enough to engage with people once the controversy started. We're sorry."

The next step for Mozilla's leadership "is still being discussed," she added, with more information to come next week.

While gay activists applauded the move, many in the technology community lamented the departure of Eich, who invented the programming language Javascript and co-founded Mozilla.

..View gallery  A man is seen next to a Firefox logo at a Mozilla stand during the Mobile World Congress in Barcelon "Brendan Eich is a good friend of 20 years, and has made a profound contribution to the Web and to the entire world," venture capitalist Marc Andreessen tweeted.

Eich donated $1,000 in 2008 in support of California's Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in the state until it was struck down by the Supreme Court in June.

Dario, would you be so kind as to explain why you think there's some kind of contradiction here? 

Honestly, I think I'm not understanding what you're saying.
58  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: April 03, 2014, 10:43:46 PM
If atheism is valid, then it should be bulletproof from religious people trying to proselytize, and therefore atheists passing out pamphlets shouldn't be a necessity.

Sorry, that's not at all logical.
59  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 78% Favor Proof of Citizenship Before Being Allowed to Vote on: April 02, 2014, 03:28:01 AM
Just read where I bolded parts of the article in my last post.  It's obvious what the article was talking about.

Where they talking about being a citizen is a requirement when registering to vote in elections and even mentioning state and federal voting or.were they talking about local elections?

You're right; It refers to federal voter registration forms. 

Anyway, informative thread.  I did not know that non-citizens are allowed to vote in some local elections.
60  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Tennessee atheists win right to distribute literature after schools give Bibles on: April 02, 2014, 03:19:31 AM
Good to see you acknowledge how retarded some atheists can be.   Smiley

Props to you for using the word "some".
61  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: 78% Favor Proof of Citizenship Before Being Allowed to Vote on: March 28, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
Yo dudez, not to interrupt your gang-rape, lol, but where in the OP's posted article does it say they're only talking about state or federal elections?  Is it implied in some way that didn't jump out at me or what?  Honest question;  I just scanned it so I might have missed it, actually.
62  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: U.S. sides against Hawaii in English-only lawsuit on: March 28, 2014, 05:52:08 PM
Don't agree with this at all.  How are these people supposed to read street signs if they cannot read English? 

U.S. sides against Hawaii in English-only lawsuit
By Jennifer Sinco Kelleher
Associated Press
POSTED: 09:09 a.m. HST, Mar 28, 2014
LAST UPDATED: 12:51 p.m. HST, Mar 28, 2014

The U.S. Department of Justice is supporting a lawsuit alleging Hawaii discriminates against those who struggle with English by making it too difficult to obtain a driver's license.

Allegations in the lawsuit are sufficient to proceed with a discrimination claim, and the court should deny the state's motion to dismiss the case, the Justice Department said in court documents filed Thursday.

The federal government has a "critical interest" in ensuring the Hawaii Department of Transportation provides those with limited English proficiency a "meaningful opportunity" to take the driver's license test, the filing said.

The lawsuit filed last year by Faith Action for Community Equity is based on Hawaii offering the exam only in English. However, the Transportation Department last week began offering the test in 12 other languages: Tagalog, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Samoan, Tongan, Ilocano, Spanish, Chuukese, Marshallese and Hawaiian.

Plaintiffs' attorneys say that's not enough for the lawsuit to go away because other issues remain, including road testing issues and a lack of translations for educational materials such as the Hawaii driver's manual.

A report by the group behind the lawsuit said Hawaii was one of only five states that offered the driver's license test only in English.

"It's unusual to have an English-only policy," said Gavin Thornton, deputy director of the Hawaii Appleseed Center for Law and Economic Justice. "For Hawaii, it really doesn't make any sense at all given the diversity of our population. We have one of the most diverse populations in the nation."

He noted Kentucky offers 22 different translations, while Hawaii has a much higher immigrant population.

Transportation Department spokeswoman Caroline Sluyter said more than 100 people already have taken the test in languages other than English. The state attorney general's office didn't immediately comment.

The Department of Justice filing acknowledges the state's Feb. 14 news release announcing translated exams would be available this month.

"Issuing a press release is not sufficient evidence that the translated exams are actually being provided or that translations will not cease again thus plaintiffs maintain a claim for release," the Justice Department filing said.

The lawsuit claims that challenges for those with limited English skills in obtaining a driver's license hinder access to needs such as employment, education and health care.

It cites as an example plaintiff Tochiro Kochiro Kovac, a citizen of the Federated States of Micronesia who moved from Chuuk to Maui in 2008. Kovac "commutes to and from work using several buses for a total of five hours a day, approximately four hours more than he would if he were able to drive," the DOJ said.

The state's "refusal to provide interpreter services for driver's license exams discriminates against non-English speaking people," Claire Wong Black, one of the plaintiffs' attorneys said Friday. "We are pleased to have the DOJ's support."

One doesn't need much English proficiency at all to drive safely.   

One needs to be quite proficient in English to make sense of the average state's English language written test and corresponding drivers' handbook.  Folks that are here that don't speak English that well are going to drive no matter -- to not be able to drive in many areas of the US is a serious handicap -- It makes good sense for each state to offer the handbook and written test in foreign languages if a significant number of folks in that state speak that language.  Making 'em pay a surcharge for the privilege is fine, though, I think.
63  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Obama compares himself to Abe Lincoln - LMFAO!!!! WTF!!! on: March 24, 2014, 10:04:46 PM
Not to be outdone, Bill O'Reilly compares himself to Jesus...

64  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Michelle Obama says internet access should be 'universal right' on: March 24, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
Besides, this is China. A task master for a grandmother is nothing out of the ordinary there.


Why does SC need to be told that water is wet?
65  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Michelle Obama says internet access should be 'universal right' on: March 24, 2014, 02:29:39 PM

Just glad she won't be welcome back after this disastrous trip where she looks like the Freak Show coming to town w brats in tow

Brats?  That older daughter looks pretty fine, if you ask me.  How old is she?
66  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Michelle Obama says internet access should be 'universal right' on: March 24, 2014, 02:28:30 PM
They do have access. All they need to do is go to the local library

Not sure if you're talking about Chinese folks or not but, FWIW, from what some of the western-born English teachers over there say on a forum I frequent, nearly all Chinese students with even a lick of computer skills know how to get around the "Great Wall" of China's internet censorship.
67  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: the party of BAN strikes again... on: March 23, 2014, 11:35:20 PM
 the orcas are major investments and are almost certainly treated extremely well in reality...

See Blackfish on Netflix and let us know if you still feel the same way, JM.

BTW, an even harder to watch documentary on Netflix (the whole thing is on youtube, too) about the gruesome way humans treat animals is called Earthlings.

I only made it through maybe 15 minutes of that shit -- I just couldn't stomach watching the dog being crushed in the garbage truck (made me want to kill the humans doing it) and had to turn it off.

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68  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: CNN can't help acting stupid "... a black hole was involved?" on: March 21, 2014, 07:06:09 AM

The plane's possible abduction via a UFO's tractor beam will be talked about next, probably.
69  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit on: March 21, 2014, 06:53:25 AM
Not necessarily.

Seymour Hersh and Ralph Nader, both liberal W. Bush haters, yet both believe Obama is much worse than Bush.

Seymour Hersh "is adamant that Obama is worse than Bush."

Ralph Nader Blasts Minimum Wage, Obama: 'Has There Ever Been A Bigger' White House 'Con Man'?

Ralph Nader: Barack Obama is worse than George W. Bush

I don't believe that Hersh and Nader are getting paid to say these things.

Legitimately good point.

Don't forget about the "idiocy" part, though.

Even folks that hate Hersh and Nader might call them "useful idiots" but I don't think anyone thinks they're really "idiots".

SC's original question (that I questioned) was "How much do they pay you to post this idiocy?"

Pretty sure that even the most committed conservatives here will admit, at least privately, that SC spouts a lot of idiocy on this board.
70  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Miss GW Yet? on: March 21, 2014, 06:45:55 AM
I agree with that actually.  fucker.

look I honestly don't believe they fabricated evidence to go to war with Iraq.  I think that there was an overwhelming fear of Sadaam and what he was actually capable of doing to the US from the early 80's all the way up to 2001.

I believe that we were afraid that we were vulnerable and made a rash decision to solve the problem of Sadaam before it started.  because if he did have WMD's that was the time where we were particularly vulnerable to a strike by him.  everyone was on board.  everyone agreed.  in my honest opinion, all the accusations and the official reports accusing the Bush administration were all political posturing after the fact.

so now everyone gets to play armchair quarterback and say that they would have done it completely different.

well what the fuck would you or I have done?  in hindsight, we should have done nothing.  we shouldn't have gone to war with anybody.  There was no "Al Qaida Land" to invade.  

but work with me here.  can you imagine the conspiracy theories if GWB had done nothing?  gone to war with no one?  they would skewer him.  I think you would agree with that assessment.

anywhere we invaded, anything we did you could come up with some scenario where we did it for nefarious reasons and the whole war was a fabrication.  so liberal critics have it so easy when it comes to armchair quarterbacking this whole situation.  They can pretty much go anywhere they want with the story without having to prove a god damn thing.  Michael Moore did.  everyone believed that shit.  the funny thing is today you couldn't find anyone who will admit that they believed Moore's accusations.  no one.  but you and I all know that half the country thought that shit was fact.  all he did was play "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon the Terrorist/Politician edition.

that's my problem with people like blacken.  all you have to do in this day and age to destroy a politician is accuse him of something horrible....often.  once you say something enough times the masses just start believing it.  so blacken posts a bunch of links where democratic congressman accuse GWB of anything and everything.  and it takes more than someone's worst enemies making accusations at them to get me on board.  and it should take more than that for anyone.  

I don't participate in the fantastic conspiracy theories where everyone is either a super hero or a villain.  I say what I think.  I don't think Obamacare is good for our health care system or our economy.  I think the wealthy pay enough in taxes already.  we're not going to tax ourselves into prosperity.  when it comes to national security, I think its in every presidents best interest to keep us safe.  i'm going to defer to his decision.  that's why you wont hear shit from me with regards to Russia.  I hate when people pretend like they understand everything when we know we're not privy to even half of the information we need to even have an opinion.  that's pretty much my entire belief in politics currently.

im rambling.  i'll stop.

Totally reasonable, I think. 

Here's what I suspect: 
I think they (gov't folks of all political stripes who are responsible for foreign policy) really did think Saddam was a potential nuclear threat at one time.  I think all the reasons that some use to explain the motivation for the Bush admin to lie us into war were originally only looked at (by Bush admin) as side benefits.  But, I think, prep for the war was pretty far along when some folks in the Bush admin started to realize that there were likely no nuclear WMD but then, instead of pulling back, it was decided, "fuck it, let's do it anyway - all those side reasons are still valid and Saddam is a legitimately bad guy so if we have to stretch the truth some to get folks to sign on, so be it."  Also, given the mood of the country in general, it wasn't really so hard to get folks to sign on, relatively speaking.  Let's face it, after 9/11 you just knew some middle-eastern country was in grave danger of being bitch-slapped before too long.
71  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Miss GW Yet? on: March 21, 2014, 06:26:42 AM


LOL all you want, SC.  I am being honest.  I realize that, how these guys seem when they speak, is hardly meaningful when looked at by itself but combined with what IS known about them, it's worth talking about.  (If you ask me, anyway.)
72  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Boom in NYS black market for Cigarettes. LOL!!!! Hilarious. on: March 21, 2014, 06:17:55 AM
Show me one post where I am anti-pot? 

LOL.  Am I allowed to use the word "choom"?

Are you pro-pot?  Do you now and have you ever smoked pot?
73  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit on: March 21, 2014, 06:15:02 AM
Really?  Show me even one post ever shilling for the republicans


You don't think that constantly criticizing Obama and liberals in general (for offenses of which some are valid and others ridiculously not so) should be considered shilling for the Republicans? 

You know there are really only 2 political parties in the USA, right?

On second thought, maybe it IS unlikely that any Repubs would pay you for daily frothing at the mouth over the evil Dems since there's very little chance that any independent voter would be swayed by your ranting.  You certainly aren't likely to be changing anyone's mind and reasonable Repubs would likely just be embarrassed by a lot of things you say.
74  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Boom in NYS black market for Cigarettes. LOL!!!! Hilarious. on: March 21, 2014, 06:06:13 AM


When th govt taxes the shit out of something people want - guess what happens you stupid commie fuck leftists? 

So you're pro-cigarette but anti-marijuana? 

Congrats on siding with the tobacco industry.

BTW, the article is far more even-handed than the title would suggest:

More than half of the cigarettes sold in New York State are smuggled in from other places to avoid the Empire State's taxes on smokes, which have soared nearly 200 percent since 2006, according to a report issued by the conservative Tax Foundation.
The smuggling problem "is a lot smaller than the study lets on," said Thomas Carr, director of national policy at the American Lung Association, noting that the Tax Foundation's data come from the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, which has received funding from the tobacco industry. "Tobacco companies are generally against higher tobacco taxes."
75  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit on: March 21, 2014, 05:51:51 AM
How much do they pay you to post this idiocy?

SC, you are the last person who should be asking this question of anyone ('cept yourself, of course).
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