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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What's the point of becoming a pro these days? on: Today at 05:49:11 AM
I just dont like the term "pro" when it comes to bodybuilding.

Pros in sports whether it be baseball, football, basketball, bowling, tennis etc...

have to have exceptional skill. Bodybuilding does not require a skill.

They should not be labeled as "pros" anymore.

Tier 1 bodybuilders would be more applicable.

2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What's the point of becoming a pro these days? on: Today at 02:14:32 AM
I also look at guys like Palumbo and Ohearn for examples. Sure Dave wanted his pro card badly, but these two guys have made far more cash than most pros will ever make.

It's about marketing these days. Not a laminated card in your wallet.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / What's the point of becoming a pro these days? on: Today at 02:11:36 AM
Becoming a pro allows you to be paid for placing in the contests you enter. But all of us know that 95% of pros make almost nothing (if not lose money) competing.

Companies have already proved that they will sponsor non pros if they are marketable. Most pros survive off of guest posings, signings, and sponsors. You can do all of those things as a non pro.

So what's the point? Only 2 contests (Arnold, Olympia)  pay any decent money right? And that is only if you place top 5.

It's a shame that you make the least amount of money actually doing battle on the stage.

Whats the point of even becoming a pro. (You have to pay for a pro card too  Cheesy)

4  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: This Day in History Thread......... on: April 16, 2014, 11:57:19 PM
Apr 17, 1790

Benjamin Franklin dies

On April 17, 1790, American statesman, printer, scientist, and writer Benjamin Franklin dies in Philadelphia at age 84.

Born in Boston in 1706, Franklin became at 12 years old an apprentice to his half brother James, a printer and publisher. He learned the printing trade and in 1723 went to Philadelphia to work after a dispute with his brother. After a sojourn in London, he started a printing and publishing press with a friend in 1728. In 1729, the company won a contract to publish Pennsylvania's paper currency and also began publishing the Pennsylvania Gazette, which was regarded as one of the better colonial newspapers. From 1732 to 1757, he wrote and published Poor Richard's Almanack, an instructive and humorous periodical in which Franklin coined such practical American proverbs as "God helps those who help themselves" and "Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise."

As his own wealth and prestige grew, Franklin took on greater civic responsibilities in Philadelphia and helped establish the city's first circulating library, police force, volunteer fire company, and an academy that became the University of Pennsylvania. From 1737 to 1753, he was postmaster of Philadelphia and during this time also served as a clerk of the Pennsylvania legislature. In 1753, he became deputy postmaster general, in charge of mail in all the northern colonies.

Deeply interested in science and technology, he invented the Franklin stove, which is still manufactured today, and bifocal eyeglasses, among other practical inventions. In 1748, he turned his printing business over to his partner so he would have more time for his experiments. The phenomenon of electricity fascinated him, and in a dramatic experiment he flew a kite in a thunderstorm to prove that lightning is an electrical discharge. He later invented the lightning rod. Many terms used in discussing electricity, including positive, negative, battery, and conductor, were coined by Franklin in his scientific papers. He was the first American scientist to be highly regarded in European scientific circles.

Franklin was active in colonial affairs and in 1754 proposed the union of the colonies, which was rejected by Britain. In 1757, he went to London to argue for the right to tax the massive estates of the Penn family in Pennsylvania, and in 1764 went again to ask for a new charter for Pennsylvania. He was in England when Parliament passed the Stamp Act, a taxation measure to raise revenues for a standing British army in America. His initial failure to actively oppose the controversial act drew wide criticism in the colonies, but he soon redeemed himself by stoutly defending American rights before the House of Commons. With tensions between the American colonies and Britain rising, he stayed on in London and served as agent for several colonies.

In 1775, he returned to America as the American Revolution approached and was a delegate at the Continental Congress. In 1776, he helped draft the Declaration of Independence and in July signed the final document. Ironically, Franklin's illegitimate son, William Franklin, whom Franklin and his wife had raised, had at the same time emerged as a leader of the Loyalists. In 1776, Congress sent Benjamin Franklin, one of the embattled United States' most prominent statesmen, to France as a diplomat. Warmly embraced, he succeeded in 1778 in securing two treaties that provided the Americans with significant military and economic aid. In 1781, with French help, the British were defeated. With John Jay and John Adams, Franklin then negotiated the Treaty of Paris with Britain, which was signed in 1783.

In 1785, Franklin returned to the United States. In his last great public service, he was a delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787 and worked hard for the document's ratification. After his death in 1790, Philadelphia gave him the largest funeral the city had ever seen.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The True Story Behind The Appalling Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment on: April 16, 2014, 02:31:02 PM
It's the first time in history Blacks were of any use to mankind.  So it was a win-win.
That is your opinion  Cheesy
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The True Story Behind The Appalling Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment on: April 16, 2014, 02:29:09 PM
Its gossip and opinion about anything, not facts that happened in history.

There are lots of bodybuilding sections on this board.
Stop posting shit, shithead.
The article I posted will bring the gossip and opinions of those who are interested.

If you are not interested, then so be it.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The True Story Behind The Appalling Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment on: April 16, 2014, 02:15:37 PM
Put this shit in the general section, how is it gossip or opinion?
Sure, as long as all of the other non-bodybuilding related threads get moved as well.

Lets not make this something that it isn't.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / The True Story Behind The Appalling Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment on: April 16, 2014, 02:11:57 PM

Controversial research programs, unethical experimentation, and human trials have been part of the medical field for centuries. It doesn’t make it any less wrong, but certain scientists with questionable ethics have gotten away with a lot in the name of, well, science. The more (in)famous examples of wayward science include eugenics sterilization, electroshock therapy, ionizing radiation experiments, and the CIA program MKULTRA. But the government sponsored Tuskegee syphilis experiment, a program that ran for forty years in Macon County, Alabama during the mid-20th century, is one of the more appalling and deceitful of the bunch.

In 1932, the medical community still did not know a whole lot about treating syphilis. This was the case despite documentation of the disease dating all the way back to just after Columbus made his famous jaunt across the big blue.

According to the Oxford Journal, syphilis was a “cultural embarrassment” and had many different names that exemplified prejudices of different nationalities. The German and English called it the “French Pox.” The Russians referred to it as the “Polish sickness” and the Poles as the “German sickness.” The Japanese called it the “Chinese ulcer.”

In the 16th century, Europe experienced a syphilis epidemic likely caused by the abundance of sailors traveling from sea port to sea port and doing what sailors do when they come into port. In fact, there is some evidence that points to Columbus and his crew being the ones who brought syphilis back from the new world. Either way, despite the disease being around for at least 450 years (and some evidence points to longer than that), there was no one, true, successful treatment for it. One popular remedy for several centuries was the use of mercury, which is quite poisonous in it’s own right, either by ingestion or rubbing it on the skin. This led to the popular saying “a night in the arms of Venus leads to a lifetime on Mercury.”

In 1908, Japanese scientist Sahachiro Hata (working in Germany) discovered the drug Salvarsan was somewhat effective as a treatment for syphilis. It was also quite toxic, as it came from the arsenic family. There were instances of patients losing limbs after taking the drug. Eventually, in 1912, Hata and Nobel Prize winner Paul Ehlric developed a easier-to-administer, but still toxic, drug called Neosalvarsan—which became the standard treatment for syphilis until the late 1940s.

Tuskegee University was established in 1881 as a school for former slaves to pursue higher education after the Civil War. It was the brainchild of Lewis Adams, a former slave, and George W. Campbell, a former slaveholder. A year later, in 1882, the great Booker T. Washington became president of the school and expanded the University by buying the grounds of a former plantation near by. The school was located in Tuskegee, Alabama, which was part of Macon County. As stated by, this region was often referred to as the “Black Belt” because of “its rich soil and vast number of black sharecroppers who were the economic backbone of the region.”

In the early 20th century, the United States Public Health Service (PHS) was in charge of monitoring, identifying, and figuring out ways to treat ailments, diseases, and conditions that were impacting all US citizens. They were divided into divisions, with one division completely focused on venereal diseases. In 1957, this particular division would be transferred over the Center for Disease Control (CDC), but in 1932 the PHS covered sexual transmitted diseases.

Between 1929-1931, the Rosenwald Fund, an organization that promoted the education and health care of poor African-American farmers, sponsored a study with the PHS to identify the Southern counties with the highest rate of syphilis among African-American males. Their original intention was to identify and treat the disease. Macon County, Alabama had the highest rate, with over thirty five percent of the male population infected with the disease. By 1931, the Great Depression was at it’s height and the Rosenwald Funds were short. Despite the need to continue research, the Rosenwald Fund stopped operating in this capacity.

So, the PHS approached the Tuskegee Institute (located in Macon County) about forming a research group in order to study the effects of untreated syphilis on a black male population for a duration of six to nine months and then follow-up with a treatment plan. The Institute agreed, along with the head of the University’s hospital Dr. Eugene Dibble, and was complacent through the first year, thinking treatment was the ultimate goal. Later, they would claim they were deceived themselves and just as much victimized as the men in the study.

The study, during the first year, was led by Dr. Taliafero Clark. The PHS enrolled six hundred Macon County men, 399 with syphilis and 201 who weren’t infected, to be part of the study. None of the men actually knew what the study was for. They were lured in with the promise of “free health care,” something that none of them had, and treatment of “bad blood,” a general localized term that encompassed several different afflictions, including anemia, fatigue, and other venereal diseases.

The men were told that they were going to get free medical exams, meals, and burial insurance. For those who actually had syphilis, they were never informed of their diagnosis nor given any treatment for it. Additionally, very painful and unnecessary spinal taps were performed on many in the study.

It was said that the reason for the deception was that it would be the only way the men would stay in the study and the researchers wanted to closely observe the course of the disease over a large sample-size to see the effects as the disease progressed, even to death. But not to worry, as long as the ones that died allowed autopsies to be performed, their funeral expenses were covered…

It was actually not an uncommon practice at the time of taking the government’s consent in medical manners, rather than the individual. But in part, the deception seemed to result from the lack of respect the doctors had for the men’s intellectual capabilities (most were illiterate, which the researchers thought was helpful as it would be harder for the subjects to figure out what was going on); there was also less than subtle hints of racial prejudice.

In a letter to a colleague, according to a Michigan State 2005 medical ethics curriculum, Dr. Clark wrote that “these negroes are very ignorant and easily influenced by things that would be of minor significance in a more intelligent group.”

Dr. Raymond Vonderlehr was the on-site director of the study. He actually supported partial treatment for the men for the sole purpose of making sure they remained in the study (as in, stayed alive). He was the one who gained “consent” of the men for the painful spinal taps by framing them as a “special free treatment.” In letters he sent to the men with the header from the Macon County Health Department, it read,

"You will now be given a last chance for a second examination. This examination is a very special one and after it is finished you will be given a special treatment if it is believed you are in condition to stand it."

The study, originally only intended to go nine months, went beyond a year and then, due to breakthroughs, extended. In 1934, two years after the study began, the first major medical paper was published detailing health effects on untreated syphilis. By 1936, according to the CDC, a medical paper was published criticizing the treatment plan for the men. 1940, once again according to the CDC website, brought efforts “to hinder the men (in the study) from getting treatment ordered under the military draft effort.”  You see, about 250 of them had registered for the draft and been found to have syphilis and ordered to be treated.

In 1928, Nobel laureate Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin. 1930 was the first recorded medicinal use of penicillin to treat infections. After penicillin was used to treat the survivors of the Boston Cocoanut Grove fire in 1942, it became the medicine of choice for the United States military for infections. By 1945, penicillin was the accepted treatment for syphilis.

Despite this, the subjects of the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment were never administered nor offered penicillin as treatment. The study administrators wanted to watch the progression of the disease as the men got sick and, in many cases, died for the forty years the study went on even though for much of it a relatively effective treatment was available.  All total it’s estimated that 128 of the men died either directly from syphilis or complications related to it, 40 infected their wives (and in some cases possibly others), and there were 19 of the men’s children born with congenital syphilis.

Finally, on July 25, 1972, Jean Heller of the Associated Press broke the story that uncovered the truth about the study. A government panel ruled that the study was “ethically unjustified” and it ended. In the summer of 1973, attorney Fred Grey filed a class-action suit on behalf of the men against the PHS and it ended with nine million dollars (about fifty million dollars today) being handed out to the participants as settlement.
9  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: This Day in History Thread......... on: April 16, 2014, 01:41:29 AM
Apr 16, 1943

Hallucinogenic effects of LSD discovered


In Basel, Switzerland, Albert Hoffman, a Swiss chemist working at the Sandoz pharmaceutical research laboratory, accidentally consumes LSD-25, a synthetic drug he had created in 1938 as part of his research into the medicinal value of lysergic acid compounds. After taking the drug, formally known as lysergic acid diethylamide, Dr. Hoffman was disturbed by unusual sensations and hallucinations. In his notes, he related the experience:

"Last Friday, April 16, 1943, I was forced to interrupt my work in the laboratory in the middle of the afternoon and proceed home, being affected by a remarkable restlessness, combined with a slight dizziness. At home I lay down and sank into a not unpleasant, intoxicated-like condition characterized by an extremely stimulated imagination. In a dreamlike state, with eyes closed (I found the daylight to be unpleasantly glaring), I perceived an uninterrupted stream of fantastic pictures, extraordinary shapes with intense, kaleidoscopic play of colors. After some two hours this condition faded away."

After intentionally taking the drug again to confirm that it had caused this strange physical and mental state, Dr. Hoffman published a report announcing his discovery, and so LSD made its entry into the world as a hallucinogenic drug. Widespread use of the so-called "mind-expanding" drug did not begin until the 1960s, when counterculture figures such as Albert M. Hubbard, Timothy Leary, and Ken Kesey publicly expounded on the benefits of using LSD as a recreational drug. The manufacture, sale, possession, and use of LSD, known to cause negative reactions in some of those who take it, were made illegal in the United States in 1965.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Re: Nevada Cattle Rancher Wins 'Range War' With Feds on: April 15, 2014, 01:45:37 AM
I feel the same way 240. The rancher is breaking the law.
11  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: This Day in History Thread......... on: April 15, 2014, 01:12:51 AM
Apr 15, 1865

President Lincoln dies


President Abraham Lincoln, the 16th president of the United States, dies from an assassin’s bullet. Shot by John Wilkes Booth at Ford’s Theater in Washington the night before, Lincoln lived for nine hours before succumbing to the severe head wound he sustained.

Lincoln’s death came just after the surrender of Confederate General Robert E. Lee’s army at Appomattox Court House, Virginia. Lincoln had just served the most difficult presidency in history, successfully leading the country through civil war. His job was exhausting and overwhelming at times. He had to manage a tremendous military effort, deal with diverse opinions in his own Republican party, counter his Democratic critics, maintain morale on the northern home front, and keep foreign countries such as France and Great Britain from recognizing the Confederacy. He did all of this, and changed American history when he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, converting the war goal from reunion of the nation to a crusade to end slavery.

Now, the great man was dead.  Secretary of War Edwin Stanton said, “Now, he belongs to the ages.” Word spread quickly across the nation, stunning a people who were still celebrating the Union victory. Troops in the field wept, as did General Ulysses S. Grant, the overall Union commander. Perhaps no group was more grief stricken than the freed slaves. Although abolitionists considered Lincoln slow in moving against slavery, many freedmen saw “Father Abraham” as their savior. They faced an uncertain world, and now had lost their most powerful proponent.

Lincoln’s funeral was held on April 19, before a funeral train carried his body back to his hometown of Springfield, Illinois. During the two-week journey, hundreds of thousands gathered along the railroad tracks to pay their respects, and the casket was unloaded for public viewing at several stops. He and his son, Willie, who died in the White House of typhoid fever in 1862, were interred on May 4.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Sushi and sleep on: April 14, 2014, 06:35:13 PM

Hahhaahaha! Brutal.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Shizzo you fat ugly degenerate cuuuunt! on: April 14, 2014, 05:55:53 PM
He's not fat, just got the curves in all the right places, and I like him just the way he is.

Is this the start of another storyline?   Lips sealed  Cool
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Shizzo you fat ugly degenerate cuuuunt! on: April 14, 2014, 05:54:22 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and keep calling you a fatty anyway.
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Shizzo you fat ugly degenerate cuuuunt! on: April 14, 2014, 05:50:13 PM
Looks like that chunky bastard still breathes. I'm out.
Chunky bastard? Ahem. We could be twins.

Minus the hairy toes  Lips sealed
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Shizzo I was just playing with you, we all good buddy. xx on: April 14, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Your such a little cutie you, sometimes I just wanna pinch those chubby cheeks of yours.
x0x0x (pure homo)

Can I sit on your nose?  Kiss
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Shizzo I was just playing with you, we all good buddy. xx on: April 14, 2014, 05:43:39 PM
What's the whole ordeal with Shizzo all about? I've been here for years and years, even before my "Dyslexic" username. I just hadn't logged in for so long I had to set up another account.

Usually I can pick up on this shit real quick, like the shit with Tbombz, but he instigated it. He loved all that attention and all the shit that was stirred up. And Jason is actually totally a cool dude when you meet him in the real world.

WTF did Shizzo do? I haven't seen anything outrageous.... is it just that certain people don't like his posting style? Does he over-react at times and meltdown? What is it?

Seems totally cool to me. We all got our issues. We all have our weirdness, no?

Well, except for Wes and Hazbin... lol.

I'll probably get a reply like: "If you have to ask..."  ~ well Shizzo, I got no problems with you if that counts for anything.
My god. A normal dude (without an agenda) actually gives his honest opinion.

I appreciate it.
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Sushi and sleep on: April 14, 2014, 05:41:27 PM
I look at that mouth and only think one thing.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The Archer77 10,000th post appreciation thread. on: April 14, 2014, 05:36:34 PM
Maybe we are the same person?  Hes my Tyler Durden
You complete me.  Kiss
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The Archer77 10,000th post appreciation thread. on: April 14, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
 Cheesy gotta enjoy the tough love here.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Damn RIP Ultimate Warrior... on: April 14, 2014, 05:30:43 PM
Warrior looks pretty well much stil full of TRT in this vid, I dont recommend TRT to anyone with any type of heart issue, it just accelerates premature death, I havent dont TRT in a long time now and did cycle it when i did, It certainly always effected aerobic capacity negatively.
So are you suggesting that excessive amounts of testosterone effect the body negatively at advanced ages?

I absolutely think that the body knows its not natural to have that much test running through it in your late 40's and 50's.

Then again, look at guys like Arnold, Sly, and even our own Wes.

You know what they say, when its your time........

22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Heat vs Pacers on: April 14, 2014, 03:03:03 PM
True the only one that gave the Heat trouble in the playoffs last year was Hibbert. Certainly doesn't seem to be a factor this year.
Seems like the Heat dont care about the 1 seed.

Lebron and Bosh are resting tonight.
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Heat vs Pacers on: April 14, 2014, 11:43:52 AM
We got our Hibbert stopper his name UD. Shut his ass down last game although wasn't to hard,Hibbert is playing like shit! Can't forget Birdman and Oden!
The Heat are a way better team then the Pacers. Just look at the big three for each team.

Lebron, Wade, and Bosh vs. George, Hibbert, and West?  Roll Eyes

Then you got hall of famers like Ray Allen coming off of the bench. Chalmers is better then George Hill, Lance Stephenson is too inconsistent.

I don't even think it would go to a seven game series this year.  Thats if both teams get to the East finals  Undecided
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Best Getbig quotes from 2013 - 2014. on: April 14, 2014, 11:34:39 AM
What the fuck is that emerging from between her strangely-misplaced tits? Kuato?

25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Heat vs Pacers on: April 14, 2014, 11:28:17 AM
Pacers need home court, Heat don't. As long as Wade is healthy through the playoffs they're good to go.
They won't be able to stop Hibbert  Roll Eyes  Cheesy

Good lord Roy is playing like shit.
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