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51  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Blood results?? on: November 20, 2012, 11:13:36 AM
So i got my results back from doctor.

OLD: 750mg week
E2 700, should be blow 200
Test: Unknown
Free Test: 107
1mg adex e3d


NEW: 1000mg week
E2: 66
Test 58
Free test unknown.
1mg adex ed

Blood pressure 155/85 this time around. Last time was 150/70

So either my new gear is more pure and its not getting converted into estrogen, or its only half of what it should be on the bottle. OR the adex is preventing the test from aromatising doing its job?

I am bigger and leaner than in the past, sitting at 228

I trust this source more than any other source I have ever. Known the guy for 10+ years.

Thoughts an opinions?
52  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Fast service does not mean good product! on: November 16, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
I have to side with WW, I dont know the guy from a hole in the ground and am fairly new on the board (perhaps i should shut the fuck up)

but even in my own experience, in my own back yard buying local 90% of the time.

Guys talk bro science, guys buy what they think is good, guys buy what the dealer tells them to, when you find a good batch and think you have a good source you get fucked.
Its not one guy, its not one source, its not one batch.

Shit happens.
Just know who your buying from, know what your getting. I love buying local so that when my bloods come back bad, I can go smack them in the face.

I think the simple fact is you can hit the mcdonadls and get fast food in about 5 minutes, but it does not mean that its good for you.
53  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Fast service does not mean good product! on: November 15, 2012, 09:02:22 AM
From my own experience there are different grades of gear too.

Some gear gives huge PIP, some gear causes bad acne, some gear causes either.
Even though my free test levels are the same, within 10-15 points on the blood scale we use.
The same goes for HGH, HCG, Slin etc.

Those who are impatient enough to think that 10-15 days to wait obviously think that bodybuilding is overnight sport Smiley

Nice post WW its so very true.
54  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq? on: November 13, 2012, 01:31:44 PM
who the hell shoots 5ml at once anyway lol

All getbiggers? hahahahha
55  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Anyone pin tren ace subq? on: November 13, 2012, 10:21:56 AM
5ml is a lot of liquid to pin sub q  Grin
56  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Testosterone, Trenbolone and other Anabolic Drugs: Correct Use Explained on: November 13, 2012, 10:16:19 AM
I think were getting a little off topic here. ITs not about who posted what, who is better than whom, who is getting talked about and what not.

Its about safe steroid use, from the ground to the top pros. Its all different for everyone.

Here is my 2 cents, and im going to leave it at this.....

1-5 years, not over 2 grams combined. WHY? They barely know how to diet let alone what drugs to take
Diet, Training, Rest, Drugs.

We all play with doses, drug types and when to take them, its not the same for everyone. I like to call it bro science, its just a bunch of guys yacking try this, try that blah blah blah. 500mg of test e/c/p is a lot, more than most need to grow. If your running 500 and working on your diet, you can do some very good things. Sure your not going to be pro, but its about learning how to eat and rest and train not the drugs, they are just a bonus for most gym rats. Sure you blow up and get huge on 2g but you loose it when you stop, because you dont know how to eat to maintain your frame, or your stopped cold turkey without your natty test being turned on first. So many things to learn in this first few years its crazy. These guys are paying stupid street prices for gear. Way to high and we all  know it.


5-7 years, these guys are the more serious builders, 500mg test is their minimum, they never go off, they are doctor monitored, diet is on track 80% of the time. 2g is hardly a building phase, they know about good GH, they have access to half decent drugs etc. They have most likely done a few shows and are familiar with the industry as a whole.

10+ These guys also do 500mg week minimum, blast and cruise, these guys know their shit, you know them in the gym when you see them, they will NOT give up any secrets, they wont give you sources etc. If your lucky they will help you with diet but your going to pay them. Dont bother them, they will yell at you in the gym hehe. They have access to most everything either pharma grade or top notch stuff, they dont pay high prices, they dont play the political games and bull shit. They eat, train, rest and do a "LITTLE" of everything hehe. (I know several IFBB pros, most of them are regular joes, some angry and wont give you the time of day unless there is something in it for them which is too bad)


For the most part, 90% of the people on the internet are NOT in category 3, they are in 1, researching, learning and trying to understand the "BRO SCIENCE"

I always tailor any cycle on the side of NOOBISHNESS without big words. The guys in my gym say "1cc of this and 1cc of that" when you ask them how many MG it is they have no fucking clue what they take. "oh the dealer told me to run it this way"
They dont know what an ester is, they dont know what half life means, they dont know anything.
They dont get blood work, they dont eat right "diet coke and a bag of MnMs is my mid morning snack"
They use this as the magic pill. and Their aint one. then they wonder why your shredded all the time, bother you in the gym because their magic protocol is not working.

ME personally as a show level bodybuilder in the amateur field have an obligation to set these people straight, to make them understand that just because you take this stuff does not mean that your going to explode over night, that you have to still put in the work to get there.

no drug will save you from your own mind
no volume of HGH will save you from your own crappy diet

I am not a pro, nor do I ever think I will be, we all like to dream but im also not about to jam 5g of gear in my ass to make it there "yet" muahahhahaha

These people need to understand they need to make it out of 1-5 years first, build a good base, play with diet and training and rest, use a minimum of steroids before they do some harm to themselves and blame the industry for their own stupidity.


Now I have to apologize for a long post, more of a rant than a post.
57  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: HGH which one these days on: November 10, 2012, 10:22:57 AM
i can swear by novos..... even on low dose there keeping me nice and tight

Yeah I would agree, I also like the nordipens 30IU ones.

Europharma or something like that makes one too, but I hear they are hit and miss.
58  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Test Cyp E3D ? on: November 10, 2012, 10:20:48 AM
Cyp is one of the longer esters, why e3d?

I do mine 2x week, 500mg per shot. No need to over analyze, its designed for 1x week.

Dont stick yourself more than you need to.
If you want to try it, do it and see how you do. I have switched mine to EoD before to incorporate other EoD compounds.
59  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Testosterone, Trenbolone and other Anabolic Drugs: Correct Use Explained on: November 10, 2012, 10:18:33 AM
Read all the posts about guys asking for a cycle that is meant for just a gym-rat! Not everybody is itching to inject themselves 10 times a day.On the other hand I agree it would take over 2,000mg of gear but not just Test! also I think 500mg of just test is perfectly fine if you are using other compounds. If you have human grade Test No reason using more then 500mg-750mg a week stacked with whatever other steroids you are taking to bulk plus your HGH and slin. All I am saying if you have good genetics you will gain off of a cycle just using 500mg of Test and 1,500 mg of other compounds but not all Test.

It does also depend on what test ester you use. some Test like suspension you have to shoot everyday,same with  Test prop and sust-IMO. Those Test esters have to be shot everyday.

But a long acting Test like Test E you can shoot just 2-3 times a week depending on the mg amount. I would never base a cycle on more then 750mg of test. If you decide to bulk for 14-16 weeks and have some great genetics you will gain using 500-750mg of Test E per week,600mg of deca per week, 700mg of primo enanthate and 50mg of dbol everyday and 50mg of anadrol pre-workout on training days only, plus your HGH and insulin and possibly a anchillery if needed, If you have great genetics and know how to train and diet you will gain some solid muscle off a stack like that.

Hell I gained a little more then 40lbs just using 250-500mg of Test E and 4IU's of serostim. all legit from the pharmacy. the key was my diet! I ate alot of everything! I used a calorie is a calorie mike mentzer method. My BF% did go up from 6% to 12% but 42 lbs is a huge amount of weight to gain in 13 months

I would have to agree with most of this, I have run my test up to 2g week and its nasty sides suck ass.
For me personally its better around 750 with other compounds that dont cause acne etc. HGH, SLIN, non aromatizing test.

I would also agree that you need 2g + of gear to even break into the pros, my coach wants me on 3g week. Im not ready for that yet. I dont want to die, I just want to do a few shows and have fun.

Most gym rats can deal with 500mg week, some tren, eq, sust, test e/c/p whatever. But you start talking GH and they gloss over. In most cases they dont even know what the fuck there putting in their bodies, "oh one mill of sust and 2 ml deca" yeah but whats the dose, "oh im not sure, the dealer told me to take it"

Like fuck pull your head out of your ass.

Diet and training for gym rats 101: learn what you put in your body, do a little research, and chart and log everything. Stop bugging me asking me what im taking if your not willing to listen to my advice Smiley
60  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: what do u guys think of this cycle? on: November 09, 2012, 08:39:53 AM
Randy is right, at 400+mg tren week you have to push through the nasty part where you cant breath and want to quit. Slow it down and build up but sustain over the long term.

I did hours and hours of cardio on tren, it sucks ass but you can do it.

For me its the tren cough that gets me, I hate that, and its so fast after injection Sad
61  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Testosterone, Trenbolone and other Anabolic Drugs: Correct Use Explained on: November 09, 2012, 08:38:02 AM
I run 1000mg test a week and going to start 2IU gh here shortly. Learning how to eat, Learning how to manipulate your body via the foods you eat is more important than the drugs, they are just a bonus IMO.

Year 1 255 pounds at 36% body fat (yup i was a fat fucker), running 500mg as most noobs would stepped on stage at 196 (yup still too fat, should have been 176). Ran tren\winny\anavar pre-contest

year 2-3 and part of 4 231 pounds held for the whole time, getting leaner and bigger each year. I plan to step on stage again at 196 come June 2013. Running 750-1000mg for this whole time doctor monitored.

Its all about diet and cardio, drugs help. I would agree here 100% that you dont need 4-5-6 combinations of steroids. If you cant grow on 500mg week you have bigger issues like diet training and rest.

I will blast up to 2000mg for 10 weeks, then come back down to 1000-750 for the off season.


Would also concur 100% that the trainers of today dont train as hard as the pros of the past, why? They are on more drugs which blows them up quicker.
But let me tell you, there is a huge difference between a blown up gym rat, and a bodybuilder. We all know the skin, the vascular look, the huge ripped monster with 6-8 pack abs year round.

Why do I wear head phones, so the fuck tards wont bother me and ask me what or how much drugs i'm taking. They don't get the fact that you have to eat right, they want the short cut.
62  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: HGH which one these days on: November 07, 2012, 02:55:34 PM
GH is always overpriced in canada Wink
63  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Remember when owning a BMW was a status symbol? on: November 07, 2012, 08:45:25 AM
I cant drive my M7 in 3 feet of snow, what else is there thats l33t hahaha.

the car does not make the man, the man makes the car, I BE ROLLIN in my Hyundai
64  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: HGH which one these days on: November 07, 2012, 08:41:53 AM
I have gone ahead and pickedup some GH from a source I have never used before, however.....I got it from 2-3 guys I know that have used it. One I trust very much.

Will talk to the doctor before I start. Was his suggestion anyway hehe.
65  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: upping dose throughout cycle? on: November 07, 2012, 08:40:11 AM
If the doctor said it looks fine and you have fully disclosed to him what your doing, your gear is bunk.

Every time I get blood my doctor calls me personaly, whining about E2 levels or free test levels.

On 750mg week my free test was 107 and estrogen was 700 (no arimidex at this time)
He called me because of the estrogen, not the free test.

Normal for a man is under 200 on E2 and around 10-30 (I think) on test.
So im 10x more than normal hehe.

Always book an appointment with the doctor after your blood work and take your iphone with you and record or take a picture of your results.
I write mine in the little black book.

66  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: upping dose throughout cycle? on: November 06, 2012, 03:36:18 PM
I run a gram of gear at 231 pounds and 5 foot 9 bro, its a lot of gear. Let alone 1250mg hehe.

If you dont have too many sides and your levels were right.
67  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: upping dose throughout cycle? on: November 06, 2012, 03:35:23 PM
What were your free test levels and E2?

So add 100-200 calories of protein only in your first calorie up. 3-4 days you should see some change.
68  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: what do u guys think of this cycle? on: November 06, 2012, 03:13:42 PM
I have always been a fan of higher test than secondary compounds, but lots of guys dont even run test, just tren for example.

Try it out in your body and see, then try it at 400\300 and see how that works.

What works for me, and what works for you will be slightly different.
69  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: upping dose throughout cycle? on: November 06, 2012, 03:12:37 PM
To get bigger just up your calories slowly and keep your aas dose the same. 500mg is a lot of drug in most cases. It should carry you to 200 pounds.
You could run 750 for 10-16 weeks and come back down but your call.

More is not always better.

My doctor told me I would have better gains with 2IU pharma GH than with 2g test week. And less sides....But what does he know, hes a doctor hahahaha.
70  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Dang it! on: November 06, 2012, 03:10:19 PM
Happens to me a little too, if you loose 2-3 drops the dose is not going to change enough for your body to even know.
71  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: upping dose throughout cycle? on: November 06, 2012, 11:18:23 AM
I have never used halo so cant comment.

I would agree 1g might be too much for you, I am 5'11 and 231 pounds. I run at 500mg 60% of the year.
72  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: what do u guys think of this cycle? on: November 06, 2012, 11:17:07 AM
What doses are you going to use?
73  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: upping dose throughout cycle? on: November 05, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
I have always used a taper both up and down. I know its old school but my body likes it better.

Prone to acne it sure does help.

I always start with 500, then 750, then 1000, 1250, 1500 and then down again after 16-30 weeks.
With my tren i start 50, 75, 100 then down closer to end.

Var\winny etc dont seem to bother me like the other drugs do.

Its a little more complicated when your already on, then add in a drug etc. In most cases my base is stable before I add any other compounds.
Hope that helps.

FYI your cycle layout looks fine, you can up the test and add in the tren.
74  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 6 week cutting cycle on: November 05, 2012, 07:58:04 AM
Deca IMO is a bulking drug not a cutting drug. It will throw on size.

Cutting is 90% about diet and cardio.

Tren ace works well anytime you use it, on or off season. I like 400mg week for myself, 8 weeks I start to get a little angry though Smiley
Next time ill run a little lower dose.
75  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: upping dose throughout cycle? on: November 05, 2012, 07:56:24 AM
How many cycles have you done, have you tested each one of these drugs in your system one at a time in the off season?
Do you know how you will react when they are combined?

Personally I prefer to test them off season, if you test on season and it gives you a setback or two, your show is over.
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