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1576  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 29, 2005, 07:18:55 PM
And I suppose you think there is NO difference between Ronnie's physique back then and when he was winning Mr. Olympia titles?  Roll Eyes

Pretty much the entire bodybuilding world views the 1994 Mr. Olympia as the end of the golden age of bodybuilding (when Dorian won with a gut, wide waist, torn bicep, and soft all over). And he beat a career best shape Shawn Ray too.. Cry


Well I do agree with you that in 94 Ray should have beaten Dorian and mabey even Levrone too. On all the other points I guess we can agree to disagree
1577  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 29, 2005, 06:59:55 PM
So you guys are honestly saying that Ronnie Coleman in 1991-6 was at the same level as Ronnie Coleman in 1998-2001??

WTF?? Roll Eyes

That is like saying that Momo Benaziza could beat Dorian at any time just because he beat a practically pre-pubescent Yates in 1990 at the NOC. Roll Eyes

When Momo beat Dorian Momo looked phenominal,  carved from granite, and wings inserting into his hips. That day Momo was the better man, that One(1) time. Now is memory serves me correct, Dorian beat Ron five(5) times. There is a HUGe difference between one and Five. Oh yah Gunter beat ronnie aswell, Now did yates ever loose when he was Mr O?
1578  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 29, 2005, 05:39:54 PM
Funny Yates beat Coleman 5 times and how many times did Coleman beat Yates? thank you ! NONE.   Wink

Exactly, end of thread. Yates 5, big ron 0.  Shawns opinion is valid but dont forget flex and Levrone have both stated that Dorian is the best ever.. and Chris Lund is a washed up flex photographer trying to hype the current champ.
1579  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 29, 2005, 06:58:45 AM
Yes, it is. But Ronnie's condition is certainly not "nowhere near Dorian's".. I mean seriously, give me a break..



The Dorian fans are simply forgetting that the modern day bloated Ronnie was once striated as hell, stripped of fat, and hard as a rock.

They make it sound like Dorian had no skin while Ronnie looked like the Stay Puffed Marshmallow man.. Roll Eyes




Hulkster I dont mean to flame you personally, and I am not a Dorian Fan anymore than a Ronnie fan. But IMO Dorian at his best Condition was light years ahead of big ron even before the gut. The pic you posted of ROn when he supposedly had amazing condition, he doenst even have Straitions in his chest
1580  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 28, 2005, 10:18:22 PM
Everybody always raves about Dorian and the black and white photos.  He looked nothing like that on contest day.

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Most contest are done in Color these days are they not?
1581  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 28, 2005, 10:12:44 PM
Sorry, Hendrix, but I already tried that route with the Dorian fans. I challenged them long ago to find two Dorian pics in contest shape that were as good as these two:




and they all conveniently ignored the challenge.

The Dorian fans got soundly defeated in the massive Ronnie vs. Dorian thread, but they can't admit that the current champ (pre gut- at his best) was better than Dorian..



Ronnie is in good condition in those photos but Yates is stil miles ahead IMO. In the famous black and white photos he is light years ahead.

YOur challenge was readily accepted an you were proven wrong. Everyone agree to this accept you. That fact is Ronnie at his best condition is nowhere near dorians condition. See the B and W photos and there is your proof.
1582  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 28, 2005, 06:15:42 AM
I disagree - Ronnie at the 2001 Arnold was in better condition (striations everywhere) with just as much mass- but his shape was lightyears ahead of Dorians:



The fact is, that dorian, even at his best, had a super wide waist:






Hulkster when you say things like Ronnie has matched Dorians Condition, your credibility immediatly goes out the window for anyone who has followed the sport. The same is true when you bring light to the fact that Dorian had a wide waist. Go to the Arnold, Olympia or any other major show and ask 100 people who has the biggest GH gut in the history of the sport. 95% will say Ronnie Coleman, 0% will say Dorian.
1583  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian. on: May 28, 2005, 06:00:59 AM
The lat spread pic IS Dorian- someone said it was Fux.  Anway, Jay and Dorian are 2 different men- if the judges were looking for freaky vascularity with hardness, Dorian would win hands down.  Jay could win too depending on what the judges were looking for.

As far as how Dorian looks now, only think I would suggest is getting a tan!.  Guys give Dorian a break- I'm sure he doesnt' cycle anymore and looks good for his age and not being "on".  It's funny how guys like Dorian get slammed on the board when they quit roids and then guyslike Don Youngblood get slammed because they took them when they were too old..?  Give everybody a break guys and be fair.

Exactly. Why should Dorian stay on? His supplment company is already succesful, he is a millionair, and he has his health. What would he gain by staying huge and juiced??
1584  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bruce Lee's Lats on: May 12, 2005, 07:22:02 PM
Can someone please post Bruce Lee's win/loss record??
1585  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bruce Lee's Lats on: May 11, 2005, 07:44:33 PM
Its threads like this that bring me back to this site and then responses like this that remind me why it is not for long.

Why are people so willing to post about subjects they know nothing about?  The whole concept of mixed martial arts was started by Bruce Lee.  It is the reason he was ostracized by the old school traditional Chinese Masters.

He was the innovator combining western style boxing, wrestling, fencing, and weight training along with his traditional disciplines.  He also intergated diferent traditional styles which was unheard of in Martial arts at that time.  If it worked (in the real world) then he would incorporate it into his training and art.



Ok smart guy, Tell me who has bruce lee ever beat in a real fight? Movies dont count BTW.


Bru
1586  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bruce Lee's Lats on: May 11, 2005, 01:39:25 PM
Im sick of you wankers chirping about how tough Bruce Lee was. Almost any bodybuilder, any MMA or Football player would kill Lee in a fight.

Has Bruce ever fought against someone who weighed more than 140 lbs in real life? no. He only fought other oriental midget who had one dimensional styles.
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