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30176  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Big Tiger on: August 08, 2006, 04:33:58 AM

BBC News By Chris Jones
Director/producer of The Real Bangkok Hilton

For the first time ever, television cameras have been given access to Thailand's notorious Bangkwang prison, also known in the West as the "Bangkok Hilton".

Of its 7,000 inmates - mostly drug offenders - 883 have been sentenced to death.

Bangkwang is Bangkok's maximum-security jail; designed for lifers and death row prisoners.

The Thai people call Bangkwang the "Big Tiger" because it is a man-eater. Scores of prisoners have been put to death in its notorious execution chamber.

After two years of delicate negotiations, the Thai prison system finally agreed to give us access inside Bangkwang.

We spent a tough two weeks inside, discovering harrowing stories from the prisoners battling to remain sane, and also the guards who are struggling to cope with the ever-increasing number of inmates.

There is a small sign on the outside wall that says 883... the number of men waiting to be killed. And perhaps the most moving encounter we had was with Amporn Birtling, a Thai prisoner on death row.

Imprisoned for drug smuggling, his voice shook as he explained how he will only find out when he is to be executed two hours beforehand.

"I have no clue when I will die," Amporn said, "they could inject me today or tomorrow. All my life I hated drugs more than anything, I never thought that I would be arrested because of them.

"I told my kids don't touch them, don't get close to them, I hate them. I admitted I was guilty, why has society punished me so harshly? Why don't they give me another chance? I never committed a crime before."


Harsh sentences for drug smugglers are popular in Thailand.

The country has long been a major through-route for drugs, but now the Thais themselves are becoming drug addicts as new, cheap methamphetamine pills have flooded the local market.

Thousands of school children became addicts in the last few years prompting a public outcry.

The result has been a government crackdown leading to the mysterious killing of more than 2,200 people in the streets in 2003.

Officials insist this was gang on gang warfare, but watchdogs suggest it could have been extra-judicial killings by police.

Ten thousand more drug dealers were arrested, many of them simple couriers, or "mules". Now the jails are cracking under the strain.

Until the 1930s, the Thais beheaded criminals, unless the condemned was royal, in which case they were beaten to death with a piece of sweet-smelling wood

Amnesty International says there are now more prisoners on death row in Bangkwang than at any other time in Thailand's history.

They also say capital punishment is not a deterrent and innocent men always end up being killed.

But the Thai Government says drug dealers like Amporn destroyed the lives of many young Thai people, and deserve to die.


Bangkwang's head executioner fits the profile: a burly build and large, menacing black sunglasses.

He would not let us film his face for security reasons, but he agreed to take us through his routine on a real execution day.

He showed us how, before he kills, he prays at the prison earth shrine and sprinkles dirt on his head; a Thai version of ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

"I pray for the spirits of the dead not to take vengeance on me," he says. " I pray for this to be the end of it."

The executioner is proud of his job.

At the execution chamber, he showed us a bulletin board detailing the history of execution in Thailand - a gruesome collection of photos both old and new.

Until the 1930s, the Thais beheaded criminals, unless the victim was royal, in which case they were beaten to death with a piece of sweet-smelling wood.

In 1932, they switched to firing squad, a system that lasted until December 2003. The execution room is still splattered with the blood of those killed by a bullet.

The superstitious executioners shot them in the heart from behind so the dead person's departing spirit could not see the face of the executioner and come back to haunt him.

"We have to train our minds to become empty," explained the executioner. "free of fear, totally free of fear."

In 2004, new methods of execution have been implemented.

The new boss of Thailand's prisons is a reformer who sent officials to Texas to witness an execution by lethal injection and to learn the process.

"It is more humane then when we used the firing squad," said Director General of Prisons, Nathee Chitsawang.

"With the old method, sometimes they were crying and shouting... and sometimes they did not die immediately, so we had to take them and shoot again."

The executioner showed us the method of putting a man to death by pumping lethal chemicals into his veins, which he says must be done "slowly, slowly, or the vein might break."

He also demonstrated how they take a fingerprint of the condemned both before and after execution to confirm they have killed the right man.


Afterwards the bodies are taken through a tiny red door called the "ghost gate" to a Buddhist temple on the other side of the wall.

If relatives are waiting, they claim the body. If not the body is left in the temple cemetery. When there is no space left, the monk will cremate the bodies.

The monk guards the urns of the unclaimed. He explained how he tells the condemned it is better to die by execution than randomly, because they can prepare their minds for death.

Thai Buddhism holds that the state of mind at the time of death determines your incarnation in the next life.

The monk told us: "Giving last rites to a prisoner is not easy but I have become used to it. I tell him that he is lucky that he knows his destiny and able to clear his conscience, unlike myself.

"If a car hits me right after this, I might not have a chance die with a pure mind. It's a blessing in disguise."

The monk has grown tired of giving last rites to prisoners, but believes his work is important.

He thinks execution is like the king slaying enemies in wars past. Both, he says, are sinful, but done to protect the country and therefore allowed.

He offered us a final warning as he put away the urns.

"I have always believed that people will face the consequences of their actions. Even if you do not get caught, eventually your karma will catch up with you."
30177  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Big Tiger on: August 08, 2006, 04:28:56 AM
I've just found out that an old school friend of mine was last month sentenced to 30 years jail time, which he is to serve at Bang Kwang prison, also known as Big tiger, in Thailand. He was caught trying to smuggle out heroin to Australia, so he probaly deserves his 30 years.

Do any of you guy's know anything about this place & what he's got in store for the next 3 decades....? Thank you.
I know money can buy you a lot of things in Thailand.  There is a lot of corruption.  On something like this though, I don't know...  May have gone to far.  The right connections can work too.  Knowing the right people over there, you can get away with.... ah a lot of stuff Grin But again, this may have gone to far I'm sure.
30178  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Big Tiger on: August 08, 2006, 04:18:23 AM
In Thailand they are very superstitious & religious, so they frown upon homosexuality. Your less likely to be raped there than any jail-house in the Western world
You must not be accounting for all the she-males in Thailand Grin  We use to sit there and laugh at all the newbies that would come there and pick one up thinking they hooked up with a hot Thai chic.  I do not remember a heavy bias against gays, not any more than anywhere else.  One day we all went out to one of the cathouses.  I didn't know where we were going until we were there.  We sat down, ordered drinks and never being in one of these places I wondered, WTF... Why are there girls behind that glass wall with numbers.  Pick a number my buddy said.  They all picked numbers and took off upstairs and I was sitting there going Uhhhh... mmmmmm... I really did not want to do this.  So I said to the guy waiting to hear my selection that I was fine, I'd drink my beer and wait for my friends.  The owner then came over and got pretty upset that I didn't want any of the girls. I tried to explain that there was nothing wrong with his girls, I just wasn't in the mood.  Then the guy's eyes lit up... He goes, AHHHH  I know I know what you want.... Then comes back with some dude for me.... Shit!  I got the hell out of there and met back up with my Thai friends later. Tongue
30179  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Big Tiger on: August 08, 2006, 03:56:00 AM
Hmm... I thought they had the death sentance over there for crimes like this.

If the guy is gay and likes rape fantasies he will LOVE it, because his arse is getting raped daily for the next 3 decades!

Fortunately for him he's not gonna feel much pain because of their small thai cocks Kiss

I bet this fellow will be a wreck when he gets released (that's if he doesn't commit suicide which IMO is more likely Undecided).
Grin You gotta stop setting yourself up like this, someone might question how you know Tongue
30180  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Global Warming Worry on: August 07, 2006, 04:59:47 PM
"Humans have increased the amount of CO2 in the air from 280 to 380 parts per million units of air (ppm) since 1900. If the world continues to increase emissions of CO2, methane and ozone, the likely result will be a large climate change with a sea level rise of a few meters."

"A cap of 440 ppm seems practically impossible to stay under due to existing energy infrastructure. However, Hansen and Sato suggest that, with the possibility of new technologies by mid-century, it is feasible to keep carbon dioxide levels from exceeding approximately 520 ppm."
30181  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Global Warming Worry on: August 07, 2006, 04:53:12 PM

Global Warming is happening, but ALL scientists CANNOT say if it the result of Human invention.

I dunno.... If the relationship between co2 and global temputure is established, and it is, and we are contributing very high amounts to the levels of CO2 in the atmophere, I don't know how you can say they CANNOT. 

30182  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Global Warming Worry on: August 07, 2006, 04:31:28 PM
Glenn Beck Show said Global Warming is a new term made up by Al Gore like he invented the internet......  We'll address who I think is the anti-Christ in the comming apocalypse after this commercial break....  Tongue
30183  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Gas Prices Up 25% Tomorrow!!!! on: August 07, 2006, 03:52:51 PM
I doubt this guy will care:

The outrageously monstrous Ford F-650 SuperCrewzer, owned by Tennessee defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, has a 107-gallon gas tank.

Let's say Haynesworth is running on empty and he pulls into a Nashville gas station to fill 'er up, at $2.999 per gallon. The truck runs on diesel fuel.

It would cost Haynesworth $320.89 to fill the tank.

Something tells me fellow Volunteer-stater Al "An Inconvenient Truth'' Gore would have a little problem with Haynesworth's mode of transportation. Gore, I'm guessing, would puke at the monster trucks and supersized vehicles in NFL parking lots.
Uh... yea.... I don't think he cares either.  A lot of people don't and never will.  Just the facts. Undecided
30184  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Gas Prices Up 25% Tomorrow!!!! on: August 07, 2006, 03:22:24 PM
i've heard through the grapevine that 240's efforts to educate the public are responsible for BP's sudden corrosion problems.
Just STFU you retarded Bitch.  Your attack campaign is pathetic.  How fucking dumb is this comment???  REALLY FUCKING DUMB... Die already you rotten whore....
30185  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Gas Prices Up 25% Tomorrow!!!! on: August 07, 2006, 06:01:15 AM
Lips sealed
Oh no you don't Jag, PLEASE tell them what you told me.  Show them please please please....  Roll Eyes  What a scam....

LOL..... I guess one man's hell is another's paradise.  Roll Eyes
30186  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Gas Prices Up 25% Tomorrow!!!! on: August 07, 2006, 04:47:58 AM
Trust me when I tell you,'s not just oil guys making a windfall from the current situation. {lol} 

I have a pretty good idea.
Just come out and say it... I'm guessing you're trying to say you're a beneficiary of this situation.  But I'm not a fuggin mind reader, just say it...  Roll Eyes
30187  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: Gas Prices Up 25% Tomorrow!!!! on: August 07, 2006, 04:00:41 AM
I guess one man's hell is another's paradise.
The oil guy's pardise is the understatement of the millennium.  Have you seen those profits  Huh
30188  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: WTF?? on: August 07, 2006, 02:26:09 AM
PROTEIN is the cornerstone of a Renal Failure dietary plan, and most of it should come from foods with an abundance of amino acids, such as meat, eggs, and some dairy products!

For a person on dialysis, protein requirements skyrocket! To stay healthy, physicians recommend a minimum of 1.50 to 2.0+ grams of protein per kilogram of "dry weight"--that's the ideal weight without fluid retention.

  Huh "Renal Faliure",.... am I missing something, a link or something?
30189  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Gas Prices Up 25% Tomorrow!!!! on: August 07, 2006, 12:14:01 AM
Major Alaskan oil field shutting down.  Losing close to 8 percent of U.S. oil production as of May 2006 or about 2.6 percent of U.S. supply including imports... Based on KNOWING THESE FUCKERS ALL TO WELL,... Should equal an immediate 25% hike at the pumps  Grin
30190  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lee Priest shows his true colors (Racist Meltdown on: August 06, 2006, 08:58:37 PM
Vince, what does your diet consist of? Fully hydrogenated doughnuts and beer?
Shocked Lips sealed
30191  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lee Priest shows his true colors (Racist Meltdown on: August 06, 2006, 05:12:24 PM

I've broken Lee Priest's spirit.  He's no match for a person like me. 

Nobody is a match for your level of stupid and yes, it's enough to break spirits... Like a bad protein fart putting a good set squats to an early halt.
30192  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lee Priest shows his true colors (Racist Meltdown on: August 06, 2006, 05:08:41 PM


Double Meltdown.  Vince 2 and tatooed son of a wanker 0.... Grin

Roll Eyes STFU already... There is not ONE person who doesn't absolutely hate you and want you dead...  Even on other boards, everyone wants you to go away.
30193  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lee Priest shows his true colors (Racist Meltdown on: August 06, 2006, 04:52:20 PM
Vince, you POS!!! Roll Eyes Never before have I ever seen a better argument for re-instituting eugenics laws than you.  Just forward Vince's pic and any brief quote from Vince to your state Representatives for immediate action.
30194  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / In the Shadow of "God's Sun-Dial" Part Deux on: August 06, 2006, 02:44:03 PM
30195  Getbig Main Boards / Politics and Political Issues Board / Catapulting the PropagandASS on: August 06, 2006, 02:15:04 PM
Half of U.S. still believes Iraq had WMD  Roll Eyes

But the Pentagon and outside experts stressed that these abandoned shells, many found in ones and twos, were 15 years old or more, their chemical contents were degraded, and they were unusable as artillery ordnance. Since the 1990s, such "orphan" munitions, from among 160,000 made by Iraq and destroyed, have turned up on old battlefields and elsewhere in Iraq, ex-inspectors say. In other words, this was no surprise.

"Our top story tonight, the nation abuzz today ..." --Fox Roll Eyes

30196  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Learning Thread - *Judaism* on: August 06, 2006, 02:35:08 AM
lol.   Grin  Nice edit.  Only problem is now you've highlighted FIVE sentences.   Grin
Yes I was fucking around [as in joking, NOT SERIOUS, PLAYING AROUND], Get serious now ok...
30197  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Learning Thread - *Judaism* on: August 06, 2006, 02:33:43 AM
So What's up guys... You Christian AMERICANS are all Kosher with a one world government? And at that time you'll give up Christ and recognize the one true god the Jewish God, one true religion the Jewish religion?  You're all ok with that happening?  I mean because that's the plan.  We're not talking about just one website, I can find this same thing written today or post quotes from books written a century ago.  All these goals are made possible by Christians. They specificly site that none of this would be possible without you.  Maybe you think none of this is real?  If so you're dead wrong, there are a whole lot of people who have devoted their lives to making this a reality.  Why doesn't anybody want to talk about this?  Are you afraid of sounding racist?  Talking about this is just that taboo???  Maybe you all know this very well already and do not wish to comment or just don't give a rats butt one way or the other?  God will handle it and you have faith that it'll work out right?  What???... What makes a Christian want or not care about these things.  I would really like to know.
30198  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Learning Thread - *Judaism* on: August 06, 2006, 02:10:50 AM
You only highlighted two sentences.  Not trying to be picky or anything.   Smiley 
What the hell are you talking about Grin
30199  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: An Evolution that Would Blow Darwin’s Mind on: August 05, 2006, 08:45:26 PM
I'm just finishing up a book that a friend recommended ("Barbarians At The Gate" - about the fall of RJR Nabisco) and I just dug  

Ah.... Goof for you they had cliff notes on that one.  Roll Eyes
30200  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / Religious Debates & Threads / Re: Learning Thread - *Judaism* on: August 05, 2006, 08:38:53 PM
I need the Cliffs Notes for your posts.   Smiley

Are orthodox Jews still waiting for the first coming of Jesus?   
I posted the goddang Cliff notes for the long post that you asked about.  In this thread I highlighted the only thing that really matters.  Three sentences...  I think you can handle that.
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