pharma primo is very much still out there.  and wtf, 250mg test every 10 days is less than a cruise dosage ffs.

GPZ. 100 needles w/ syringes, 100 seperate needles for pinning, 100 alcohol swabs all for like 30-40 bucks

100mg TNE pre/wo blow all that shit out the water

half life is something like 12 days. and you can front load long esters if you want. pin 3-4x the amount of your desired dosage for one week and it will reach that dosage quicker. i.e. you want to run 500mg/wk, then for the first week or so only pin 1500mg, then continue pinning only 500mg/wk.

the nolva/clomid. i would much rather do "pct" with HRT dose testosterone and actually keep gains and have a functioning dick than put drugs meant only for females in my body just because someone says i should. if the pros can come off completely for a few months to have kids while having done the blast/cruise method for years on end and still not be permanently shut down, im pretty sure the rest of us are more than fine. like i said dude, think for yourself and make your own observations.

honestly what do you expect to happen when you suddenly remove all the synthetic testosterone in your body. all the fucking female fertility and breast cancer drugs in the world aint gonna change that. still blows my mind that people put that shit into their bodys. hop off the bandwagon and think with you're head bud.

LOL its funny he hasnt been on this board since fucking april and yet GH15 still comes up on a weekly basis. fucking pathetic. move on people. i swear ive seen more developed social skills in retards for christ sake.

  oh brother. yea. the long esthers are slow releasing. but by injecting sust once a week you're just wasting the spike in test you'll get from the prop and phenyl prop in it. with blends always pin for the shortest esther to keep levels the most even.

if you dont wanna pin that often then you're prolly in the wrong sport.

1050mg tren ace
1200mg eq
525mg test prop
700mg mast prop
50mg tne pre workout

i never mentioned test e. some people bloat on it some don't. me personally i can use cyp and not get a drop of water. test e will bloat me up though. everyones different. but I've never seen someone stay shredded on deca and dbol.

great physique by the way

to each their own i guess. i don't have the cash to waste buying possibly bunk gh. in the shitty situation the markets in why not stick with a sure thing. never once in my life heard of fake rips or thanks. its all the same anyway. generics all suck compared to pharm grade.

....right.   ok diet does determine wether you'll gain fat on certain compounds but it most certainly does depend on the drugs. your just not going to put on decent mass with masteron or anavar no matter if you eat 8000 calories a day. just like your not going to look good or get shredded on deca or dbol or anadrol because of the water retention even if you eat like a saint.

Factory was shut down in 2009. That should be all that needs to be said. Why waste money on a risk when there's plenty of reliable gh out there.

  What's your goal for the cycle? Your all over the place lol deca and sust will bloat you up and using two 19nors (tren and deca) is just asking for trouble. Leave out the deca and sust. Also take that pct shit and throw it down the toilet. Save that sust and run it .5ml 2x a week for "pct".

...the fuck is this shit 

Gh to stay lean on bulk. That much test is just killing it. As im sure you know, almost everything has a point of diminishing returns where you stop gaining results and just get more sides. Gh lets you run more, elimates most sides in my exp. Would never want to balloon up like 1400mg of test with no gh would do. Plus gh just makes everything better lol

like i said, unless you have GH in there, i don't think your body can handle that much test. just going to waste.keep it around 700, maybe bump a little higher but unless your absolutely huge, i think 1400 is pushing it.    up the eq to 900+mg, thats usually my starting point then maybe 1200mg. deca I've never ran that high but i like to do lean bulks. if you can handle the water then go for it bro.

double the primo if no tren. the more primo the better. no deminishing returns and no extra sides from my experience. go at least 1g/week

too much test, not enough tren.  fuck npp. nandrolone is too prone to bloat and sides, regardless of the esther for a cut. save that shit for bulking  run tren in the 700mg/wk range, test around 300-400 and add in masteron or EQ, even Anavar.  If its a cut your looking for then don't worry about gaining the size and strength you will on nandrolone. as far as sust, i never liked it for cutting too much bloat.

Tren 150mg ed
Test Prop 100mg eod
Masteron 100mg eod
Var 50mg-100mg ed
Primo 1g/week if you can afford it. No glass ceiling so to speak with primo. the more you run the better and better the results get.

^right there are all you really need for cutting. might not use all of them but those are pretty much your choices for cutting.
I've run this exactly as a cutting blast for 16 weeks and got stupid results. daily changes



don't come off, you will regret it. run test at low trt dosages for your 'pct'

for bulk. ditch the deca and use npp. same compound just a shorter esther. less bloat and sides. unless your on GH i wouldn't go very high with the test. eq looks good. add in anadrol if your lean enough. GH really is what you need if you want to run a heavy bulk unless you like looking like a balloon.

fuck all of that, either cut bulk or cruise. prop/tren/mast/var and maybe eq if you can handle your appetite has been proven for lean gains and fat loss. stick with what works. test/deca/eq/drol/gh (and maybe masteron if estrogen sides flare up) for bulk simple as that

if by any chance they do come with a warrant, read the thing....they can only search for certain things in certain places and can only seize what is in the warrant, nothing else (i.e. if it does not mention paraphernalia, then you can have a box full of used syringes and they can't do a damn thing).  i keep mine in the fridge in a plastic container, chances are they won't open all your "food" containers in your fridge 

i would love to be able to stay on, however being a college student my income drops drastically come september...thanks for the info though

okay, getting two different answers on the clomid??

and i think a decision has been made after reading some past posts....going to up the test p in the first 8 weeks of the cycle to 200 eod and keep the tren at about 100-150 eod, then second half (i read that when tren is increased, test should be decreased?) move test to 100 eod and up tren to 150 ED and add masteron at about 100 ED as well.  from what i have gathered just from reading on here, this should give me what i want, yes?

as far as the gh, don't have the extra $$ to spend on that otherwise it would be in haha....so i should just make the cycle longer and up the dosage about halfway through? and the arimidex is fine alone for pct and to run during the cycle to keep gyno at bay?.....basically my goal is more for lean gains than size, i had planned on doing a rather long cycle in the fall/winter to bulk up substantially........by the way, my only experience so far is messing around with test alone, and from what i gathered tren is pretty much a given for any cycle but other than i haven't been able to gather why guys run specific gear over others, any insight here?

Current cycle starting in a few weeks to put on some lean lbs/shred some fat

Weeks 1-8  Test P-100mg eod
Weeks 1-8  Tren ace-100mg eod
Weeks 1-12  Aromasin-12.5 mg eod (as needed)
Weeks 9-12 Clomid-100mg ed (tapering off)

Wanted to add an oral or possibly another injectable, not really sure what else I want to do....thinking anavar for lean gains with minimal sides, I've heard good things about mast p and EQ as well...what would be the best to add on here



EDIT:
Weeks 1-8  Test P 200 mg EOD (roughly 800 mg/week)
Weeks 1-8  Tren A  100 mg EOD (roughly 400 mg/week)

Weeks 9-16 Test P 100 mg EOD (roughly 400 mg/week)
Weeks 9-16 Tren A 150 EOD (600 mg/week)
Weeks 9-16 Mast P 150 EOD (600 mg/week)
My original thoughts were that this is too much but I've heard people understate their actual numbers on here, opinions on this cycle???
Havent gotten clear answers on pct but as of now arimidex throughout and for 4 weeks after