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1  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Best cycle for under half a grand on: February 23, 2013, 03:48:42 PM
I think bloat depends a lot on the diet. So keep that under check and it probably won't matter. If you're really concerned, consider Test Prop instead of E.
2  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Best cycle for under half a grand on: February 22, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
So you answered your own question  Huh
3  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca Kick-In Time. on: January 06, 2013, 01:03:51 AM
love Test suspension. I use it pre-workout before working large muscle groups. 100mg before training legs, 100mg before training chest, 100mg before training back. 300mg a week. I don't use any suspension if i am just working smaller muscle groups like biceps and triceps. usually I get 4-5 workouts a week. I always focus just usually one or two muscle groups per workout. Intense 45 minute work-outs.

I sometimes shoot a amp of Test E 250mg 1ml amp a week as well.  so total no more then 550mg of Test a week I have had great gains just using suspension and switching around orals. I start with a bulking oral like dbol or drol and always end with var and winstrol combined or Tbol most recently halotestin. I had the best luck using anadrol for 4 weeks and then switching to halo for 4 weeks. just a basic Test and oral cycle has yielded me some great gains but i have also done cycles were I threw in tren 100mg eod and masteron Eod the last 4 weeks all these cycles were just 8 weeks. I also will use arimidex if needed. always stick a good pct and after the PCT I use alot of OTC supplements. some people think all OTC supplements are crap but far from the truth. They def help. You don't know it till you stop taking them.

I've been rather curious about TNE. Once I get a connection ill be trying it fo sho  Cheesy

since I am just using for vanity reasons 8-9 week cycles are more beneficial to me and my health. Like I said I try not to abuse my HPTA and also damage my receptors by using all year. Like I said 8 weeks after my cycle I am hitting around 750ng natural test level. I am not down in the 176ng level. But recently I am hitting lowe due to the painkillers I am prescribed due to the car accident. I have used all year in the past just find it pointless these days! especially since the car wreck my body dosn't like all these drugs I put in it and it works hard to push them out wich means my body is constantly working 24hrs a day when I am on cycle trying to push out all these foreign substances.
4  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca Kick-In Time. on: January 04, 2013, 10:40:27 AM
just jump right in! Oral steroids are what do it for me! Test helps but hell after 3 weeks I am up close to 20 pounds. 3 days after I start I get questioned about how I got big overnight! I respond very well to AAS oral steroids work incredibly fast for me. Now the 20 pounds of course is not pure lean muscle but when I get done with my cycle and PCT I am always up 12-15 lbs of lean body mass just in 8 weeks. This last cycle got out of hand but That was due to a shitty diet and using for too long. I think if you are just a gymrat blast cycles are the way to go! your hpta does not get too screwed up and you can recover quicker as far as natural test is concerned. I never cruise. just blast and use a good PCT and 8 weekks later I am hitting at 750 ng natural test.

Orals and what else? Prop, TNE, NPP?

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5  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Sust,Eq n Winny cycle help appreciated... on: January 03, 2013, 09:13:11 PM
500 mg Sustanon week 1-16 (250mg Tue-Thu)
600 mg of Eq week 1-16 (300mg Tue-Thu)
Winstrol 10 mg tabs 5 per day week 6-13 (NAC 4 liver ed)
Clomid week 14-16 tapering 150, 100, 50 per/w

i think i finally got it right,u tell me? so mixing the Sust n Eq in same syringe wont matter am i right? let me know fellas

Yeah mixing the two won't matter. Cycle looks good.
6  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Sust,Eq n Winny cycle help appreciated... on: January 02, 2013, 09:06:34 PM
EQ needs to be run for longer and at a higher dose (I once ran it at 400mg for 8 weeks and felt absolutely nothing) an yes, mixing the oils in the same syringe is fine.
7  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Bulking Cycle on: January 02, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
I have been cycling with cyp, deca, anavar for awhile now: 200 / 250 mg per wk.  At first I ran a 10 week cycle, but I have extended them to 14 weeks or so. I notice that plateau too quickly now, so I think I need to mix it up.  I know guys that have gained big on Tren and dbol, so I'm thinking of adding that to the mix.

It's hard to go wrong with test and deca. You're plateauing because your body has maxed out with those (light) dosages. Drop the Var, and try Test Prop 525/ NPP 525 for 10 to 12 weeks.
8  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca Kick-In Time. on: January 02, 2013, 01:10:23 PM
I go for blast cycles. just because my gains come off quick, then just maintain after 4 weeks. I jump up very fast within the first month of a cycle! I can get some serious weight/muscle gains just on a 8 week cycle.

Do you use any priming method precycle or do you just jump right in?
9  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Bulking Cycle on: January 02, 2013, 12:19:14 PM
What are the "newbie" cycles you've run? And as far as a good weight gainer product, just get a blender and fill it with ice cream, protein powder, fruit, and some oil/peanut butter.
10  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca Kick-In Time. on: January 02, 2013, 02:15:39 AM
Eh kinda wished I would've went with NPP now. Oh well, gotta try it at least  Tongue
11  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca Kick-In Time. on: December 31, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
Here's another question then: what do you guys find to be more effective- shorter blasts or longer cycles?
12  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca Kick-In Time. on: December 30, 2012, 10:27:20 AM
Very true. It kind of breaks down to how many shots you are willing to put up with. If you run NPP for months that is alot of pinning. I tend to think using nandrolone decanoate then switching to NPP is the best way to go, Plus NPP is still somewhat new. regular nandrolone decanoate has been around alot longer and is tried and true. NPP can be hit and miss but then again so can nandrolone decanoate. I think the chances of getting higher quality nandrolone decanoate is better as you can actually find human grade nandrolone decanoate on the market. NPP is always going to come from a UGL wich means hit and miss quality. maybee give the nandrolone decanoate a try since you have tried NPP. did you find the NPP you used effective?

Yeah I found NPP incredibly effective. I just wanted to try deca to save some money and avoid some pinning lol.
13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca Kick-In Time. on: December 30, 2012, 01:26:15 AM
you should feel it within 3-4 weeks. but it does depend on the quality. Deca can take longer depending on the individual and the quality. If it takes longer then a month then you got sold some low grade product. You do have to be patient with deca takes awhile to start working and it can stay in your fatty tissue for 8 months sometimes longer! Now if you are talking about completely peaking on deca Your looking at about  6-8 weeks maybe longer for some but you should get some effect after 3-4 weeks.

As far as jumpstarting your cycle with dbol that is up to you! just depends on how much mass you are trying to build. It sounds like you are trying to bulk up so throw in some dbol. You are going to get more water retention off deca durabolin(Nandrolone decanoate) then NPP. Most go with deca durabolin then switch to NPP after 10 -12 weeks.

Do you feel there is any benefit to front loading?
14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Health/support supplements on cycle (heart, bp, cholesterol, liver, etc...) on: December 29, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
^To amend my previous post, make sure to consume lots of healthy oils too, i.e. olive oil, flax oil, coconut oil, natural peanut butter, etc.
15  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Health/support supplements on cycle (heart, bp, cholesterol, liver, etc...) on: December 29, 2012, 02:11:16 PM
First of all, don't eat like a cow and get so bloated that your blood pressure sky rockets.

Do a modest amount of cardio and drink plenty of water.

Eat realtively clean and make sure you get a ton of fruits and vegetables (as a rule, the vitamins and minerals you absorb from real food are processed and utilized much better than when they come in vitamin form, i.e. Vitamin C usually comes in the form of acsorbic acid, which the body doesn't handle particularly well).

Supplement with a super greens product (Green Vibrance has about everything) and take Liv52 for the liver when necessary.
16  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Deca Kick-In Time. on: December 29, 2012, 02:04:39 PM
Planning on running Deca for the first time in a few weeks (along with Sustanon). I'm generally an advocate of shorter cycles (i.e. 6 to 10 weeks) and I know Deca takes a while to kick in, but I wanted to try it anyways.

My questions for you guys are:

 (1) how long did it take for you for deca to hit full force 

 (2) what is the best way to start this cycle
       - Deca front load
       - Dbol kicker
       - Just run normally
       - Other suggesstions


Note: The cycle is 750 Sustanon/600 Deca and I've used NPP before; It took about 2 weeks to kick in.
17  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Next Cycle (?). on: October 09, 2012, 10:28:25 PM
fuck dianabol. blood pressure through the mother fucking roof and bloating something terrible.

test and deca for the win.
Duly noted, lol.
18  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Sample Diet and Drug Protocol for Growth on: October 09, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
The following is a sample diet and drug protocol that anybody can follow. This will not make you pro or national level size, that is mostly dictated by genetics but even someone with the worst muscle building genes should "explode" on such a protocol.

Just to note: for those that keep the permanent blinders on, this is completely unhealthy and dangerous - much like bodybuilding in general.

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Drugs:
1,000 - 2,000mg testosterone per week
800 - 1200mg deca per week
50 - 100mg dbol taken on workout days only, pre workout
100mg TNE pre workout
10iu (at least) hGH
15iu insulin taken twice per day

insulin and hgh protocol:
insulin shot immediately upon waking followed by breakfast
insulin shot prior to training (immediately or 90 mins prior depending on humulin-r or log)
take entire dosage of hgh all at once either IM or IV immediately post workout

Diet: (not including pre, intra and post workout eating)
1. 8oz lean ground beef, 2 cup oats, 1 gatorade
2. 100g whey, 50g oats, 2 tbsp PB
3. 8oz lean ground beef, 2 sweet potatoes
4. 100g whey, 50g oats, 2 tbsp PB
5. 8oz lean ground beef, 2 sweet potatoes
6. (before bed) 100g whey, 1 cup whole milk, 2 tbsp PB

Pre workout protocol:
inject TNE and consume or inject dbol 90 mins pre workout
inject humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
eat a pre workout meal of 8-16oz chicken and 2 sweet potatoes
immediately pre workout have 25-50g dextrose
intra workout drink 50g dextrose, 25g whey protein, bcaa's, creatine monohydrate
immediately post workout IV or IM entire day's hgh dose
20-30 mins post hgh inject, have a shake of 100g whey and 50g dextrose
90 mins post hgh inject, eat a meal of 8-16oz chicken and 1 cup rice

Just wondering why there seems to be much more food involved in this protocol than the protocol you outlined the other day (the day in the life one), which had much more drugs.
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Next Cycle (?). on: October 09, 2012, 10:24:39 PM
It all depends on your goal. really 4 weeks of dbol to jumpstart your cycle is fine. start at 20mg of dbol daily the first week and add 10mg each week. so you will run 50mg of dbol week 4. Test E kicks in faster then deca but it does not take a whole month for deca to start working.

Give the deca a few weeks. remember with deca it stays in your system for almost 8-10 months after your done using it but that is just a warning if you get drug tested for steroids. I don't know if you competet in any sports that require a steroid test.

Alot of athletes have been nailed using nandrolone due to the fact they did not know it would stay in their system for 8-10 months.

Your cycle looks fine Test E , Deca and dbol will yield great gains.

Thank you sir, sounds like a plan  Tongue
20  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Next Cycle (?). on: October 09, 2012, 04:57:35 PM
Do Test E and Deca really kick in that quickly, without a frontload? And then would you say if I'm doing a 10 week cycle that Dbol for the first 4 would be adequate, or run it the whole way through? Thanks man.
21  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Next Cycle (?). on: October 07, 2012, 07:28:29 PM
^Brutally shameless bump
22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Next Cycle (?). on: October 03, 2012, 08:50:22 AM
Wont the Deca and Test E at least take 5 weeks to kick in?

And what dosage would you recommend for the Dbol?
23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Oily skin + test on: October 02, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
thanks. what does it mean when u have oily skin on a cycle?

It's a perfectly natural reaction to have with an influx of hormones.
24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Next Cycle (?). on: October 02, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
I kind of wanted to switch to the longer esters because I'm getting tired with pinning every other day.

But I also like running cycles in generally shorter bursts- no more than 10 weeks. Which probably isn't enough to reap any gains from at least the Deca.
25  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Next Cycle (?). on: October 01, 2012, 02:52:36 PM
What's up fellas?

I'm currently running 525 Test P/525 NPP and tossing around some ideas as to what to do next.

Thus far I have been thinking either:

a) 750 Test C/ 600 Deca

or

b) 750 Test C/ 525 Dianabol (75mg/day)

What do you guys think? Any other suggesstions?
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