lol

<yawn> nobody is saying the President's kids don't need protection. That's why they have Secret Service assigned to them. Where we disagree is that it's hypocritical of Obama to not want schools to have armed security meanwhile the school he sends his kids to has armed security.

There's no good reason why it's okay for his kids to go to a school with armed guards while our children must attend gun-free schools. As you said, there have been no assassination attempts on past Presidents' kids. That's proof the Secret Service is enough of a deterrent. Meanwhile, our kids are being shot up and killed in gun-free schools b/c <surprise surprise> there is no deterrent to the bad guys.

If you think it's okay to do nothing about our children being murdered in schools by violent sociopaths, then you are hopeless.

Show me how many assassination attempts there have been on past Presidents' kids

strong this. For every argument defending Obama's hypocrisy to have armed guards (not to be confused with Secret Service) at his kid's school, I can come up with a valid rebuttal. In the end, there's no good reason why it's okay for his kids to go to a school with armed guards while our children must attend gun-free schools. To the poster who commented that armed security is "an added layer of protection," I would argue that public knowledge of the Secret Service is enough of a deterrent. Show me how many assassination attempts there have been on past Presidents' kids. I'm curious to know. Meanwhile, our kids are being shot up and killed in gun-free schools b/c <surprise surprise> there is no deterrent to the bad guys.

originally, I was going to type up something else but I decided to go a different route. So my opening sentence no longer applied

they already have Secret Service protecting them. I'm sure the Secret Service goes through better training than any armed guard at a school. They are specially assigned to keep an eye out on on the President's kids not to mention they are required to take a bullet to protect the First Family. So your argument about having "an added layer of security" is meaningless. It would be like positioning you outside the White House with a gun and calling it "an added layer of security"

I disagree. The NRA simply voiced what many of us Americans are thinking but don't have the political platform to be heard. Even if this lands them in trouble, I applaud them for their courage and integrity for standing up to a hypocritical leader

way to miss the point of the video. Obama doesn't want schools to have armed security meanwhile the school he sends his kids to has armed security. This is not to be confused with the secret service that protects his kids wherever they go.

if it was posted years ago by you and hasn't been posted since, I would say that meets the definition of "rare"

here's another rare precontest pic of Dorian

way to completely ignore his post and then repeat the same nonsense. Ronnie could've been compared 1,000 times in the first round. It doesn't matter b/c he won the next 3 rounds with perfect scores. How do you explain that?

too bad your opinion means crap. Flex wasn't talking about 98 so the judges scoring is irrelevant in this case. He was referring to Ronnie's 03 Mr. Olympia physique. Both Flex and Ronnie agree that 03 would beat Dorian at his prime

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Ronnie Coleman - MuscleMecca Forum Thread

Poster: "Ron, honestly who wins between Dorian at his best (1993/1995) vs you at your best (1999, ASC 01, Olympia 2003..etc)?"

Ronnie: "Comon man, you know 2003 cant be stopped."

http://musclemecca.com/kings-court-q-ronnie-coleman-296/big-ron-coleman-here-real-220513/index4.html


Boom. Game over

sorry but Flex himself admitted that Ronnie is the best bodybuilder he ever competed against. Not Dorian

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

even standing relaxed, you can tell Ronnie was already beginning to surpass Dorian in size in 96

ahahaha, ND already bringing offseason pics of Dorian into this discussion. That's how you can tell he's fighting a losing battle

Ronnie at 250 lbs already matching Dorian in size yet according to ND, Ronnie with +30 lbs wouldn't look much bigger

Ronnie already matched Dorian in size at 250 lbs with inferior conditioning. Ronnie at 257 lbs with 98/01 ASC conditioning would have no problem against Dorian. Now 03 Ronnie, on the other hand, would dwarf a 257 lbs Dorian

Size is objective. Ronnie has bigger arms, delts, pecs, and quads than Dorian in the pic of them standing next to each other

wrong, try again. You said Ronnie in 96 was close in weight to his 98/01 ASC showing and therefore, the difference in size would be negligible while completely ignoring the difference in conditioning. Ronnie at the 01 ASC would make his 96 Mr. O physique look small

sorry brah but size is objective. Ronnie matches Dorian in size but loses on conditioning. That's why Dorian won

what does that have to do with you contradicting yourself? My old comment has nothing to do with you quoting McGough when he says Dorian has better conditioning but then ignoring him when he says you look much bigger when you're supersharp.

never matched Dorian in size? lol, wut? Ronnie has bigger arms, delts, and quads. Even his pecs look bigger

hypocrite much, no? Just a couple posts ago you were quoting Peter McGough on conditioning as if he spoke the truth. Now you conveniently ignore his comment about how you look much bigger when you're in better shape

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

just make sure you throw it down like a shot and brush your teeth after. It's very acidic and can damage your enamel