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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: What Causes This Muscle Look? on: April 22, 2014, 08:29:53 PM
All of the above. Elasticity of the skin is lesser in old age, even if keeping the body in fairly good shape since younger years.. Usually noticed around the pec/delt tie in and outer pecs, butt & lower abs first.. That's just nature telling you your getting older. That flat look is probably due to a too dried out condition.Metabolism also has a hand in all this.

Props for him anyway for still trying. Guy's who tend to do the higher set thing, too much unneeded cardio and too many days a week working out, as they age, tend to get that wrinkled flat look.  And even lose some muscle mass. Too bad, really.

There's an assumption that he's trying to compete with younger bodybuilders. Maybe he's just setting goals for himself to be the best he can be. At the  least he is no tub of lard like many folks, both old and young. 
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 10:08:11 PM
Good point PrimeCorpusSpongiosum...

Trades are ridiculously underrated and looked down upon. Our system has failed this way. I have several friends who are specialized mechanics,  plumbers, electricians make low 6 figs and enjoying their work. They are builders and damn good at it.

Going Carollaesque here but pisses me off when the douchey left cries about schools cutting down on music and theater programs. Hey I get it art is "good" for your mind, the kid who play violin has a 4.0 GPA so it must be the music (not to mention he practices 8 hours a day so it's more about ethics than muzics). But I digress.

Shop, motherfucking shop and building shit. Promote it, cherish it. I stopped to help a 17yo kid the other day who was literally in tears 'cause he couldn't change his flat tire (oh peace). Pulled the jack out of the hummer and helped the poor emo.

Nevertheless, all this is pointless, 5 years from now, a critical mass of middle to upper middle class are going to be home schooled and this is going to be a game changer.

A friend of mind has two sons. Home schooled. the 17yo is starting in Berkeley in August and the 19yo is a senior at UC Davis. Greatest, most polite and mentally mature and balanced kids I've ever seen. Did I mentioned they're in San Leandro one of the shittiest school district on the Bay Area?

Fortunately, we live in one of two of Oregon's best achieving public school districts. One of the reasons for this is that we voted to fund West Linn School district with additional local dollars, while State government is shorting school districts all across the state. You cannot tell me that there isn't a direct relation between solid funding and high achieving school districts. The other high achieving district is our neighbors to the north in Lake Oswego. My grandson will be attending West Linn High School come fall.

Home schooled kids have the advantage of parents who are greatly involved in their education. Unfortunately, many parents of students in the traditional educational setting are indifferent to their children's school performance for the most part. If those parents put the same energy into their kids education as do the parents who home school, there wouldn't be a problem and we'd have both smarter and more socially adapted young people. Unfortunately, home schooling tends to isolate the student from his or her peers somewhat, which can hinder their social development unless they are particularly outgoing and involved with their friends. There are no perfect answers.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Expensive Clothes on: April 21, 2014, 09:41:03 PM
Here are two guys who apparently know how to dress. Both find themselves on the best dressed lists for 2013 - 2014. Nick Grimshaw is #1 on GQ's 2014 best dressed list. Justin Timberlake repeatedly makes many of the best dressed lists.
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Expensive Clothes on: April 21, 2014, 09:25:06 PM
Well, I found the what NOT to wear:

Searching for some good examples

Women find him irresistible. He must be doing something right.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: AIDS - MONKEYS - THEN HOW DID IT REACH MEN? on: April 21, 2014, 09:02:21 PM
God sent it to punish gays, obviously

Then God failed, because it punishes everyone who has it, gay or not.   Roll Eyes
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 08:41:04 PM
When their solutions are simply increased funding and idiotic programs like "common core," they should be called out on it. And how is offering a trade alternative "throwing them away?" This is based on the misguided PC liberal mentality that everyone has the ability to be a scholar, which is simply dishonest. Some are just not academically inclined, an unfortunate truth.

My suggestion actually empowers the "throw aways" by giving them something perhaps more interesting and indefinitely more productive to pursue. The unrealistic do-gooders would have them sit mindlessly in a classroom for a few extra fruitless years, watching the minutes tick away on the clock. Then unleash them on the world at 18, totally unequipped to fend for themselves. Just so the do-gooders can feel better about themselves.

It's their kind that decided everyone has to be a college grad and that suggesting a trade alternative is some negative stigma that might hurt their feelings or devalue them somehow, which is absolute bullshit. Fact is, they'll probably end up making more their educators if they were offered this route. And isn't that ultimately what matters in America anyway?

All right, off the box.

You digress. I am all for including trades in the school curriculum. Who decided everyone should be a college grad? Often it is unrealistic parents who push their children into this, while often discouraging them when they want to pursue other endeavors. I was awarded a scholarship to a prestigious art school in L.A. when I was in high school. My parents made me turn it down because "artists" never make any money. From what I have seen, this backward and strictly materialistic way of thinking is even more rampant today then it was when I was a kid.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 08:34:45 PM
Public school. Where did I state this was not an option? I defended teachers.

Glad you defended teachers. In order for public schools to be able to effectively educate folks, they need to attract quality teaching staff. Public school should not only be an option for the disadvantaged but for people from the full spectrum of social, economic and ethic areas.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Getbig, is flinstones destroying me in these pics? Cast your votes on: April 21, 2014, 08:19:21 PM
he doesnt look to have a lot of muscles under his fatness

do you wear special glasses in order to see through fat?
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Getbig, is flinstones destroying me in these pics? Cast your votes on: April 21, 2014, 08:16:32 PM
Were you hoping a cock/muscle show was going to go down??

Nope....were you?
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Random pics on: April 21, 2014, 01:23:15 AM
What a fuckin loser. Should be executed.

Why bother....the fellow has already annihilated himself.
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Getbig, is flinstones destroying me in these pics? Cast your votes on: April 21, 2014, 01:21:07 AM
Nope....he is not.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 3 weeks into my diet on: April 21, 2014, 01:18:00 AM
My experience with D-Bol suggests that it might not be the best choice at this point in your prep. Save this ABS for when you are trying to add mass not looking to be defined.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 01:07:05 AM
What is your suggestion? You were a teacher. How often does one suddenly blossom after pissing away years of classroom opportunity? More funding will magically make apathetic students/parents give a shit?

I was not a teacher other than that any adult should set an example for young folks to follow. I agree that there are no simple answers. There are some truths though which should not be ignored. Educators are not by definition the problem, nor are their wages. Some kids do throw away their opportunity to become educated and this will always be the case, unfortunately. As for blossoming, some folks are "late bloomers". Perhaps the world is less forgiving of these people then it once was and that is just how it is. I don't think more funding is necessarily the solution, but I do think bashing those folks on the frontlines of education today will not solve anything either. Teachers are not the problem. We need to look beyond this and work to resolve the gaps in education as best we can because the future is in the hands of those who follow us.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 12:57:02 AM
It's annoying because it was so obvious that I was merely explaining the original post to someone. You responded like a hurt public school teacher.  Tongue

And yet I am not that. I am merely a parent and grandparent in an international family. I think this gives me perspective that many are not privy to. Three of my grandchildren have been educated in Germany and one in the U.S. Educating our young folks and preparing them is the most valuable tool we have for the future worldwide. Since I am old, the problems we face in education will have little impact on my life. However, education will impact mine and your grandchildren and great-grandchildren's lives and the future of our society.
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 12:46:34 AM
Send them back to Africa
Just kidding

You are over simplifying this.
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 12:45:48 AM
These "unreachable" kids, what do you suggest for them?

It would seem some folks would suggest we throw them away. If but it were so simple. Think in terms of pay now or pay later.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 12:43:28 AM
Don't make attendance compulsory. At 14/15/16 if they're not cutting it, move 'em to a trade route, etc. It's easy to villainize teachers (though some are worthless, thanks to their union protectors), but for the most part, it's apathetic kids and parents. The world's best teacher couldn't pull it off. If they truly don't give a fuck, what the hell is a teacher gonna do? I'm all for vouchers and charter schools, by the way, and NO, increasing funding isn't the answer. This is liberal denial is all; they know what the real problem is.

Also, look closely at which students at which schools are performing poorly. White communities? Jewish, Asian? Think maybe culture has something to do with it? Fuck 'em, if they're unreachable by high school, another four years is pointless.
And for those who cannot afford charter schools? What is your suggestion here?

My grandson is currently enrolled in a private online school for his junior year because the Texas school system was so fucked up that neither traditional school nor the public online school system in Texas could meet his needs. BTW his tests show he is at or near genius levels because his IQ is so high. Fortunately, he is back in Oregon now and because his parents forked over $10,000 in tuition for private school he has managed to excel to the point where he can literally sail though his senior year with almost no required courses. It has been a struggle not helped much, if at all, by Texas' underfunded and seriously lacking public school system.

Funding is not the only answer. But lack of funding and support is also not the answer. As a society we can either choose to value education or not. If we choose not to, then expect that a lot of talent will go wasted. Not everyone can afford a private education, therefore public education should be an option for all.

You are right, many kids will do as little as they have to, to get by in school. If parents aren't willing to support their kid's education in a very real and active way, then expect that many young folks will underachieve. The responsibility should not be totally on educators shoulders.    
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 21, 2014, 12:20:48 AM
I'm halfway trolling in response to Primemuscles annoying post.

Charter schools and vouchers are probably the solution? Clearly ever increasing funding isn't changing anything.

Why is it that the truth is annoying to some people? Probably because they would rather not know the truth.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 20, 2014, 12:00:16 PM
They only work half the year, and can't even managed to teach high schoolers to read anymore. They deserve no more than $38,000.

Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

The school year is actually 10 months and not 6 months long, just so you know. During the school year, many teachers work very long hours. Education should be a collaborative effort between the students, their parents and their teachers. Many parents today aren't involved in their children's education and in fact work in a counterproductive manner when it comes to education. Apparently you feel teachers are overpaid. Oddly enough, folks going into teaching are in short supply. Salaries are about supply and demand as well as qualifications. Someone having the education level it takes to be a teacher, could work in any number of other fields where the pay is much better.
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 20, 2014, 11:52:44 AM
Hey no worries I understand why you can be cynical and misguided and how simple assumptions can lead to funky deductions. What I'm perplex about is the time spent on this, especially that you don't live in Cali and make assumptions on averages your read "online". Here in SD North County, 44% of the classes are hispanics. Salaries varies per school district so you should drill down on the level of detail. Average class size is 33.  

Running a business in Cali isn't easy these days... 3800 hrs of consulting gigs in 2014, benefits, Brobama care... 38K isn't actually too bad. Ironically, our Federal burden wasn't that much more, which makes this questionable and generates a high desire to incorporate elsewhere and eventually move to AZ or TX.

Dunno about personal income burden yet, will know in August  Cool.

GodSpeed and thanks for your interest in the cause; illegals need to pay taxes, or what the left calls their "fair share" or all hell is breaking loose VERY SOON.

My kids are home schooled. Lots of people are going down that road... wonder what the consequence will be in 10 years...

I have roots in California. My parents own homes in Beverly Hills and Encino as did my wife's parents. Most all of our immediate family has vacated California in favor of Oregon, however our extended family and many of our friends still live in and around the L.A. area. I get that California has become a real "melting pot" of people with an emphasis on Latinos. When last I visited there, I felt like I was in a foreign country.

The issue with folks from South America not paying income taxes is complicated. If they are here illegally, then they can hardly claim their income with living under the radar. Of course regardless of immigration status, everyone pays sales tax. At least you have that in California. There is no sales tax in talk about a free ride for illegals. Although an illegal would have difficulty owning property and thus paying property taxes, they probably rent. Renters pay property indirectly as it is built into the rent. Never-the-less, children here illegally still get a free lunch, literally. Not only that, if they qualify for free lunch, they also get breakfast and a snack. If they participate in an after school program or go to daycare, they get another light meal in the afternoon. These are Federal programs. At the school where I worked, volunteers actually provided sack lunches to help get the kids some nutrition over the weekends.

It would seem from what you wrote that the $38,000 you paid was corporate tax and not personal income tax. Perhaps I didn't read carefully enough, but it seemed as if you were originally implying it was personal income tax. Not to worry about my research though, it only took a minute to check the tax burden in California. California clearly has one of the highest tax burdens. Of course, California's proposition 13 passed in 1978 limiting property taxes hasn't helped with school funding there since most school funding comes out of property taxes. Oregon passed Measure 5 in 1990 which has had a similar negative affect on school funding. Private school is a choice one makes. Eventually, if enough folks make that choice it will devastate public education. The rich will be educated and the poor won't. We will be like other 3rd world countries in that respect.
21  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: I have taken my last drink for the next 4 days. This is my road to semi sobriety on: April 19, 2014, 11:06:34 PM
But what does primemuscle being an old schmoe geezer have to do w anything?

I don't know. You tell me.
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 19, 2014, 11:03:45 PM
Why the hell do you guys put up with state taxes? As a Florida boy, I have never had to worry about that.

So you have to pay federal and state tax? Fuck that shit.


Sales tax: 6%
Property tax per capita: $1,507
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 19, 2014, 10:50:01 PM
So I kinda own one teacher in Cali... wonder how many mexi freebies she/he "teaches" to..

You are full of shit. The average teacher salary in California is $68,000. Starting salary is $41,000. There is no tuition for public school, therefore every student is essentially a "freebie" regardless of ethic origin.  The student teacher ratio in California is relatively high at 20.9. The national average is 15.1. I'd say do the math, but math doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

What is amazing is that someone with your obvious lack of knowledge, earns enough money to have that high a state tax bite. The California tax rate for someone making $1,000.001 and above is 10.3% which means you would have to have a taxable income of nearing $4,000,000 after deductions in order to owe $38,000 in state taxes.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Just paid $38k in state taxes... on: April 19, 2014, 10:35:42 PM
He pays the salary of one teacher with his taxes.

Which tells you he doesn't know shit if he thinks a teacher only makes $38,000 a year.
25  Getbig Main Boards / General Topics / Re: I have taken my last drink for the next 4 days. This is my road to semi sobriety on: April 19, 2014, 10:24:48 PM
You don't say.

I do say.
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