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28526  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / GREATEST Bodybuilding Routines in HISTORY! on: August 03, 2008, 02:31:48 PM
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28527  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Possible Dark Horse Mr. GetBig?? on: August 03, 2008, 02:25:10 PM
Why? I never been serious before, in all those pics I'm partying at bars, If I train hard and don't drink and take this stuff for real I think I'll be fine..
The level of competition is too great and will prove to be insurmountable for you here at the Mr. Getbig.  You perhaps should start with something a little more attuned for the greenhorn, such as a "sexy chest" contest at the all male revue bar.
28528  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Possible Dark Horse Mr. GetBig?? on: August 03, 2008, 02:15:22 PM
No chance at all.

28529  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Possible Dark Horse Mr. GetBig?? on: August 03, 2008, 02:14:36 PM
I personally think he has ZERO chance.

28530  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Possible Dark Horse Mr. GetBig?? on: August 03, 2008, 12:36:41 PM
Lol..there Diesel jeans, there the only jeans that I can find that make 28 waist..
I know how that is. Try some Lucky Jeans. Diesel makes some great jeans.
28531  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Possible Dark Horse Mr. GetBig?? on: August 03, 2008, 12:11:15 PM
Not lean enough. Second place is a perfect fit for you though.
28532  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: tadaaaa! on: August 03, 2008, 08:40:22 AM
Typical unassuming gym body.
28533  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I just finished a 5 day fast on: August 01, 2008, 10:48:57 PM
The evidence that dietary fat correlates with heart disease “does not stand up to critical examination,” the American Heart Association concluded in 1957. But three years later the association changed position — not because of new data, Mr. Taubes writes, but because Dr. Keys and an ally were on the committee issuing the new report. It asserted that “the best scientific evidence of the time” warranted a lower-fat diet for people at high risk of heart disease.

The association’s report was big news and put Dr. Keys, who died in 2004, on the cover of Time magazine. The magazine devoted four pages to the topic — and just one paragraph noting that Dr. Keys’s diet advice was “still questioned by some researchers.” That set the tone for decades of news media coverage. Journalists and their audiences were looking for clear guidance, not scientific ambiguity.

After the fat-is-bad theory became popular wisdom, the cascade accelerated in the 1970s when a committee led by Senator George McGovern issued a report advising Americans to lower their risk of heart disease by eating less fat. “McGovern’s staff were virtually unaware of the existence of any scientific controversy,” Mr. Taubes writes, and the committee’s report was written by a nonscientist “relying almost exclusively on a single Harvard nutritionist, Mark Hegsted.”

That report impressed another nonscientist, Carol Tucker Foreman, an assistant agriculture secretary, who hired Dr. Hegsted to draw up a set of national dietary guidelines. The Department of Agriculture’s advice against eating too much fat was issued in 1980 and would later be incorporated in its “food pyramid.”

Meanwhile, there still wasn’t good evidence to warrant recommending a low-fat diet for all Americans, as the National Academy of Sciences noted in a report shortly after the U.S.D.A. guidelines were issued. But the report’s authors were promptly excoriated on Capitol Hill and in the news media for denying a danger that had already been proclaimed by the American Heart Association, the McGovern committee and the U.S.D.A.

The scientists, despite their impressive credentials, were accused of bias because some of them had done research financed by the food industry. And so the informational cascade morphed into what the economist Timur Kuran calls a reputational cascade, in which it becomes a career risk for dissidents to question the popular wisdom.

With skeptical scientists ostracized, the public debate and research agenda became dominated by the fat-is-bad school. Later the National Institutes of Health would hold a “consensus conference” that concluded there was “no doubt” that low-fat diets “will afford significant protection against coronary heart disease” for every American over the age of 2. The American Cancer Society and the surgeon general recommended a low-fat diet to prevent cancer.

But when the theories were tested in clinical trials, the evidence kept turning up negative. As Mr. Taubes notes, the most rigorous meta-analysis of the clinical trials of low-fat diets, published in 2001 by the Cochrane Collaboration, concluded that they had no significant effect on mortality.

Mr. Taubes argues that the low-fat recommendations, besides being unjustified, may well have harmed Americans by encouraging them to switch to carbohydrates, which he believes cause obesity and disease. He acknowledges that that hypothesis is unproved, and that the low-carb diet fad could turn out to be another mistaken cascade. The problem, he says, is that the low-carb hypothesis hasn’t been seriously studied because it couldn’t be reconciled with the low-fat dogma.

Mr. Taubes told me he especially admired the iconoclasm of Dr. Edward H. Ahrens Jr., a lipids researcher who spoke out against the McGovern committee’s report. Mr. McGovern subsequently asked him at a hearing to reconcile his skepticism with a survey showing that the low-fat recommendations were endorsed by 92 percent of “the world’s leading doctors.”

“Senator McGovern, I recognize the disadvantage of being in the minority,” Dr. Ahrens replied. Then he pointed out that most of the doctors in the survey were relying on secondhand knowledge because they didn’t work in this field themselves.

“This is a matter,” he continued, “of such enormous social, economic and medical importance that it must be evaluated with our eyes completely open. Thus I would hate to see this issue settled by anything that smacks of a Gallup poll.” Or a cascade.
28534  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I just finished a 5 day fast on: August 01, 2008, 10:48:03 PM
Diet and Fat: A Severe Case of Mistaken Consensus
Viktor Koen

Published: October 9, 2007

In 1988, the surgeon general, C. Everett Koop, proclaimed ice cream to a be public-health menace right up there with cigarettes. Alluding to his office’s famous 1964 report on the perils of smoking, Dr. Koop announced that the American diet was a problem of “comparable” magnitude, chiefly because of the high-fat foods that were causing coronary heart disease and other deadly ailments.

He introduced his report with these words: “The depth of the science base underlying its findings is even more impressive than that for tobacco and health in 1964.”

That was a ludicrous statement, as Gary Taubes demonstrates in his new book meticulously debunking diet myths, “Good Calories, Bad Calories” (Knopf, 2007). The notion that fatty foods shorten your life began as a hypothesis based on dubious assumptions and data; when scientists tried to confirm it they failed repeatedly. The evidence against Häagen-Dazs was nothing like the evidence against Marlboros.

It may seem bizarre that a surgeon general could go so wrong. After all, wasn’t it his job to express the scientific consensus? But that was the problem. Dr. Koop was expressing the consensus. He, like the architects of the federal “food pyramid” telling Americans what to eat, went wrong by listening to everyone else. He was caught in what social scientists call a cascade.

We like to think that people improve their judgment by putting their minds together, and sometimes they do. The studio audience at “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire” usually votes for the right answer. But suppose, instead of the audience members voting silently in unison, they voted out loud one after another. And suppose the first person gets it wrong.

If the second person isn’t sure of the answer, he’s liable to go along with the first person’s guess. By then, even if the third person suspects another answer is right, she’s more liable to go along just because she assumes the first two together know more than she does. Thus begins an “informational cascade” as one person after another assumes that the rest can’t all be wrong.

Because of this effect, groups are surprisingly prone to reach mistaken conclusions even when most of the people started out knowing better, according to the economists Sushil Bikhchandani, David Hirshleifer and Ivo Welch. If, say, 60 percent of a group’s members have been given information pointing them to the right answer (while the rest have information pointing to the wrong answer), there is still about a one-in-three chance that the group will cascade to a mistaken consensus.

Cascades are especially common in medicine as doctors take their cues from others, leading them to overdiagnose some faddish ailments (called bandwagon diseases) and overprescribe certain treatments (like the tonsillectomies once popular for children). Unable to keep up with the volume of research, doctors look for guidance from an expert — or at least someone who sounds confident.

In the case of fatty foods, that confident voice belonged to Ancel Keys, a prominent diet researcher a half-century ago (the K-rations in World War II were said to be named after him). He became convinced in the 1950s that Americans were suffering from a new epidemic of heart disease because they were eating more fat than their ancestors.

There were two glaring problems with this theory, as Mr. Taubes, a correspondent for Science magazine, explains in his book. First, it wasn’t clear that traditional diets were especially lean. Nineteenth-century Americans consumed huge amounts of meat; the percentage of fat in the diet of ancient hunter-gatherers, according to the best estimate today, was as high or higher than the ratio in the modern Western diet.

Second, there wasn’t really a new epidemic of heart disease. Yes, more cases were being reported, but not because people were in worse health. It was mainly because they were living longer and were more likely to see a doctor who diagnosed the symptoms.

To bolster his theory, Dr. Keys in 1953 compared diets and heart disease rates in the United States, Japan and four other countries. Sure enough, more fat correlated with more disease (America topped the list). But critics at the time noted that if Dr. Keys had analyzed all 22 countries for which data were available, he would not have found a correlation. (And, as Mr. Taubes notes, no one would have puzzled over the so-called French Paradox of foie-gras connoisseurs with healthy hearts.)
28535  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I just finished a 5 day fast on: August 01, 2008, 10:41:28 PM
Let me also add that another culprit is the Ratio of Omega 3s and 6s and not the amount.
28536  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I just finished a 5 day fast on: August 01, 2008, 10:38:24 PM
You truly do believe way to much a magazine tells ya...I guy i knew(ifbb pro) of the 80's eat one can of tuna 21 days out from a show...Then he eat 20 pounds of potatoes over a 2 1/2 day period leading up to the show...When he give your digestive system a break, everything else steps up a notch...There a chemist in think tanks that deprive themselves from food and take mushrooms or LSD to try to come up with cures for things we don't even though exist...

Dizzle...You were a fat kid who started working out and got alittle attention and you believe your whole life is the truth...Bro I'm telling ya...Its not...Your reality tunnel is built on what you see or hear...Your poisoning yourself with muscle mags...

You believe high protein doesn't effect you...You believe massive amounts of steak and hamburg will not hurt your heart...You believe steroids don't really effect your liver...You believe a person can snort sweet n low like it's coke for dozen's of years it it will not have any effect on the body...

Your so young that you do not have real life experiences to tell you otherwise...You read stuff that lets you believe that what your doing is fine...Bro I'm telling you right here and now, you are going to go down...You don't have the genetics to handle anything close to what Jay Cutler can handle...Jay won't live to be 50...And that may be OK with him...And it may be OK with you...But don't sit here and ask people to show you written proof that this will kill you or that will kill you...You sound like a tobacco salesman...Your the fat kid who drinks a case of beers every other day for 10 years after college and has no problems and believes that the whole world is exactly like you...Your the same douche bag who may be lucky to live to 50 who now has to tell everyone how bad something is because your sitting with a colostomy bag or worse...Truth is, you can't step outside your body and look at yourself and realise that your just a regular schmo who is trying to find info that makes your life seem right...But it is yours...So to you, it seems like the end all be all...The quicker you can step out of your body and look down at yourself, the better society will be...
Actually, the link to Heart Disease via Saturated Fats and Cholesterol is VERY Tentative.  Over Consumption of total calories is the real culprit.
28537  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I just finished a 5 day fast on: August 01, 2008, 10:34:36 PM
Fasting is pointless for the result you are trying to achieve.  However, if you like self-torture and a false sense of "spiritualism", go ahead and indulge in the pointless pleasure less pastime of nutrient depriving.   

28538  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Adam ,is back on: August 01, 2008, 10:17:43 PM
HAHHAHHAHha I just realized his name is Adam.

I have a Mini-Me.  hhahahahahahahh
28539  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Adam ,is back on: August 01, 2008, 09:55:45 PM
New tat looks pretty good. Suprised you went for the Cross thought...
This vid is the funniest thing I have seen in years. I can`t stop watching it.

28540  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Adam ,is back on: August 01, 2008, 09:05:24 PM
Bigger , better and a new routine, enjoy.
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You found my new youtube posing routine!
28541  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Did any getbigger coin any original phrase? on: August 01, 2008, 11:05:54 AM
I am also responsible for "gayer than" similies.

Sadly, I see they are not to be any longer permitted.
28542  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Did any getbigger coin any original phrase? on: August 01, 2008, 11:05:15 AM
I coined ALL DRUGS back in 04/05.
28543  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Do these men need a good bulking cycle? on: August 01, 2008, 08:11:05 AM
Gerald Ford would probably be our strongest President as he was a college football player and could have gone Pro.

Also, Franklin Pierce cut a bold and ripped figure. 

28544  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Do these men need a good bulking cycle? on: August 01, 2008, 08:08:45 AM
have we had a single muscular president?
Andrew Jackson was ripped.  He usually would eat only rice and a bit of pheasant. Abraham "The Rail Splitter" Lincoln was known to have a feeling of steel chords in the arms.  He would eat VERY sparingly mostly fruit and sometimes a boiled egg here and there.  His entire staff would always tease him about his appetite.

George Washington was known for his physical stature.  Threw a Rock across the Rappahannock.

U.S Grant also was athletic in his day, although he spent most days drunk out of his mind on bingers.
28545  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Drugs Offer Promise of Fitness Without Effort - from 2008 on: July 31, 2008, 12:53:16 PM
Drugs Offer Promise of Fitness Without Effort
Published: August 1, 2008

Can you enjoy the benefits of exercise without the pain of exertion? The answer may one day be yes — just take a pill that tricks the muscles into thinking they have been working out furiously.

Researchers at the Salk Institute report they have found two drugs that do wonders for the athletic endurance of couch potato mice. One drug, known as Aicar, increased the mice’s endurance on a treadmill by 44 percent after just four weeks of treatment.

A second drug, GW1516, supercharged the mice to a 75 percent increase in endurance, but had to be combined with exercise to have any effect.

“It’s a little bit like a free lunch without the calories,” said Dr. Ronald M. Evans, leader of the Salk group.

The results, Dr. Evans said, seem reasonably likely to apply to people, who control muscle tone with the same underlying genes as do mice. And if the drugs work and prove to be safe, they could be useful in a wide range of settings.

They should help people who are too frail to exercise and those with health problems such as diabetes that are improved with exercise, he said.

But such muscle-enhancing drugs would also have obvious appeal to athletes seeking to gain an edge in performance. With funds from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Dr. Evans has devised test to detect whether an athlete has taken the drugs, and has made it available to the World Anti-Doping Agency, which prepares a list of forbidden substances for the International Olympic Committee.

Officials at the anti-doping agency confirmed that they were collaborating with Dr. Evans on testing procedures but could not say when they would start using them.

Experts not involved in the study agreed that the drugs held promise for treating disease. Dr. Johan Auwerx, a specialist in metabolic diseases at the University Louis Pasteur in Strasbourg, France, said the result with the Aicar drug “looks pretty good’ and could be very helpful in the treatment of diabetes and obesity. “The fact you can mimic exercise is a big advantage because diet and exercise are the pillars of diabetes treatment,” he said.

Dr. Richard N. Bergman, an expert on obesity and diabetes at the University of Southern California, said the drugs could become widely used if they prove safe. “It is possible that the couch potato segment of the population might find this to be a good regimen, and of course that is a large number of people,” he said.

The idea of a workout in a pill seems almost too good to be true, but Dr. Evans has impressive research credentials, including winning the Lasker award, which often presages a Nobel prize. He is an expert on how hormones work in cells, and on a powerful gene-controlling protein called PPAR-delta which instructs fat cells to burn off fat.

Four years ago he found that PPAR-delta played a different role in muscle. Muscle fibers exist in two main forms. Type 1 fibers have copious numbers of mitochondria, the organelles that generate the cell’s energy, and are therefore resistant to fatigue. Type 2 fibers have fewer mitochondria and tire easily. Athletes have lots of Type 1 fibers, and people with obesity and diabetes have far fewer Type 1 and more Type 2 fibers.

Dr. Evans and his team found that PPAR-delta remodels the muscle, producing more of the high endurance type of fiber. They genetically engineered a strain of mice whose muscles produced extra amounts of PPAR-delta. These mice grew more Type 1 fibers and could run twice as far as on a treadmill as ordinary mice before collapsing.

Given that people cannot be improved in this way, Dr. Evans wondered if levels of the gene-controlling protein could be raised by drugs. Pharmaceutical companies have long tried to manipulate the protein because of its role in fat metabolism, and Dr. Evans found several drugs were already available, although they had been tested for different purposes.

In a report published in the Friday issue of Cell, he describes the two drugs that successfully activate the muscle-remodeling system in mice. One, GW1516, activates PPAR-delta but the mice must also have exercise training to show increased endurance. It seems that PPAR-delta switches on one set of genes, and exercise another, and both sets are needed for great endurance.

The second drug, called Aicar, improves endurance without any training. Dr. Evans believes it both mimics the effects of exercise and activates PPAR-delta, thus being able to switch on both sets of genes needed for the endurance signal.

Aicar works by mimicking a by-product of energy metabolism, signalling the cell that it has burned off energy and needs to generate more. The drug is “pretty much pharmacological exercise,” Dr. Evans said.

He said the drugs work off a person’s own genetics, pushing the body to an improved set-point that is otherwise gained only by strenuous training. “This is not just a free lunch, it’s pushing your genome toward a more enhanced genetic tone that impacts metabolism and muscle function. So instead of inheriting a great set-point you are using a drug to move your own genetics to a more activated metabolic state.”

Aicar is a well known chemical that has been tested for various diseases since 1994 and was this month approved by the Food and Drug Administration for a heart condition known as ischaemic reperfusion injury. But neither Aicar nor GW1516 has been tested in people for muscle endurance so the health effects of the drugs, particularly over the long term, are not precisely known.

This may change if pharmaceutical companies pursue Dr. Evans’s findings. “The drugs’ effect on muscle opens a window to a world of medical problems,” Dr. Evans said. “This paper will alert the medical community that muscle can be a therapeutic target.”

The new drugs activate at least one of the pathways triggered by resveratrol, a substance found in red wine though in amounts probably too low to significantly affect muscle.

In 2006 Dr. Auwerx and colleagues showed that large doses of resveratrol would make mice run twice as far as usual on a treadmill before collapsing. It is unclear just how resveratrol works, but one of its effects may be to bind with a protein that helps activate PPAR-delta. Dr. Auwerx’s resveratrol-treated mice remodeled their muscle fibers into a type that contains larger numbers of the energy-producing mitochondria.

This is the same result that Dr. Evans has found can be obtained with Aicar.
28546  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: forearm after using the sawzall on: July 31, 2008, 11:36:51 AM
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Waddy is a direct descendant of the great General John Horace Forney. True Story.
28547  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: "I dont train legs because my Thighs are already Huge from Soccer,football,e on: July 30, 2008, 12:28:31 PM
"soccer"  Roll Eyes

Obama has been hitting the drop set squats I see.
28548  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: so i'm doing a clean diet on: July 30, 2008, 12:01:37 AM
Nobody will even be near me as far as rippedness goes.  Forget everything you knew before.  I will shock you all into last place.
28549  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: so i'm doing a clean diet on: July 29, 2008, 11:49:06 PM
1. The True Adonis
28550  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: christian bale on: July 29, 2008, 11:46:03 PM
what else is there?  Huh
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