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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Obese people and their shopping carts on: July 28, 2014, 12:49:49 PM
This one claims athletic body type on POF:

She may bowl...
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Obese people and their shopping carts on: July 28, 2014, 10:23:31 AM
Notice the "diet" coke in the door - lol

For visitors apparently..
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Obese people and their shopping carts on: July 28, 2014, 10:03:33 AM
I see it all the time but this weekend was like a spoof on obese shoppers for some reason. Every single obese person I walked by in the grocery store had their carts full of the exact things people who want to fit in an airplane seat shouldn't eat... Frozen waffles, liters and liters of regular soda, potato chips, gallons of ice cream, mac and cheese, frozen pizza etc etc. Their kids were spittin' images of them and had no hope of being healthy until they leave home and by then the damage is done. I could hear them all in my head telling their friends as they picked at a salad over lunch that it's their thyroid..not their diet that is the problem. At least TRY! sheeeeesh!   
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Non-lifter crashes plane on FL beach. Kills 1, another in critical condition on: July 28, 2014, 09:42:28 AM
Somewhere there is someone saying "Thank God he and his daughter are safe! it's a miracle!" ...completely overlooking the obvious....  Wink
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Smoking- I seriously want to quit on: July 28, 2014, 07:22:14 AM
My Dad up and quit one day after 45 yrs of smoking Pall Malls. My brother quit cold turkey after years of smoking. My sister, who has every medical mental issue known to man and who we thought could never quit.. finally quit. I thought that for some people quiting is near impossible until she did it. Used some system that slowly weened her off the nicotine. Still smoke free 10 yrs later. The bottom line is you gotta want to bad enough to do it. It comes from you, nothing anyone says matters. The question is...are you cigarrettes bitch?
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I made $15 million before I was 30, and it wasn't as awesome as you'd think on: July 21, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
I agree it is a good post. While money doesn't buy happiness, it can sure make misery tolerable. Being rich removes a myriad of potential problems like not being able to pay a light bill, or afford dependable transportation, but it also adds a myriad of problems that are unique to being rich. But at the end of the day, if I get to choose which set of problems I have, I'd go with the rich problems.   
7  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / E-Board - Movies, Music, TV, Videogames, Comics / Re: Motley Crue on: July 21, 2014, 09:04:21 AM
A buddy of mine went and seen them in Dallas (I assume) last night or maybe the night before.

Showed some pictures of them playing on a platform 20 feet above the audience.

I think that was an outdoor venue. Saw a picture one of my friends posted from Dallas. Probabably a much better venue for the concert. I saw Boston last night and it was a great show. The sound man must have been 65 and was playing the sound board like a rock musician. He was almost as entertaining as the show.
8  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / E-Board - Movies, Music, TV, Videogames, Comics / Re: Motley Crue on: July 17, 2014, 02:22:47 PM
 Smiley Ok, I deserved that..
9  Getbig Misc Discussion Boards / E-Board - Movies, Music, TV, Videogames, Comics / Motley Crue on: July 16, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
Went to see Motley Crue and Alice Cooper last night. My ears are still ringing and I'm just getting my hearing back. What's the deal with bands that have the music so loud that you can't distinguish notes, or words? Cooper opened for them (should be the other way around) and he was loud, but it wasn't painful and the music and vocals sounded great. The Crue comes out and the kick drum feels like I'm having heart palpatations and you can't understand a word. I guess I need to start packing ear plugs to these things. Seeing Boston and Night Ranger Sunday, likely won't have an issue there..
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 16, 2014, 12:41:38 PM
Absolutely! Being poor/less rich has now been totally institutionalized/pathologized. This will only get worse as the income divide widens, as it will. The police will always side with who pays them, and they will increasingly become more and more a tool for the wealthy to wield. Hey, I get it: enjoy your powers, pensions, and unaccountability, but sell your union LEO bullshit elsewhere.

You may view it as LEO bullshit and that saddens me a bit, however I will continue to give my opinions and views here. Hope that's ok with you
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 16, 2014, 11:04:20 AM











We most certainly disagree. sir

Let Me tell you how your post looks / reads to Me & Many others.

Lets skirt around the issue that some police are Bang out of order
& blame the Public for being at fault and causing all the problems.

Now let me say first off I believe that the public & the police should have the same level of punishment for the same crime
unless it is an abuse of power or position then it should be greater, as in any job where they are abused.

Also that a scum-bag, bully, murderer is the same no matter what job they do.

I am in no way trying to protect or make excuses for them what is wrong is wrong.

I hope this is clear enough for you too not misconstrue.

please deal with the issues raised by people on here,
maybe even answer these questions

1. why should the police be treated differently to general public. A crime is a crime is it not regardless of who commits it.
The punishment should be the same. I disagree. If an officer commits a crime he or she should be held to a higher standard and the consequences more severe

2. Do you truly believe that the general public are not being made criminals by ever increasing laws regarding every aspect
of every day life. if you define a speeder as a criminal then yes, and some laws I certainly don't see any need for. But some new laws are created because there are new ways to harm others.

3. Do police ever cover up for each other. police investigating police, really like that is a very unbiased system that is going to work.
do you really have faith in that.speaking for my department, I have faith in it. We have a civilian Police Monitor office that works in conjunction with the I.A. investigators to make sure the citizens complaints are taken seriously. I can't speak for other departments but I believe there have been instances of cover up  

4. police never lie, fabricate evidence, with hold evidence, steal, beat or murder people.some have, certainly

No matter how big or small the percentage in the police service is (as in the general public) they need routing out and dealing with.
not side lining, covering up, or excuses.we agree on this

I see it as you sir who cannot or will not accept that there is some thing wrong.
Hence you are part of the problem.I see you haven't been reading my posts if you have concluded that
You have completely ignored or tried to run rough shod over so many very accurate and good posts.
Not once acknowledging there is a problem.

We all know there are problems & some big problems with some people in society.
only not anyone in the police.

I may be wrong with this one,
Isn't it that you are 8 times more likely to Die in the hands of police,
than you are from a terrorist attack... yet look at the ridiculous level of security at airports.

1. why should the police be treated differently to general public. A crime is a crime is it not regardless of who commits it.
The punishment should be the same.

 I disagree. If an officer commits a crime he or she should be held to a higher standard and the consequences more severe

2. Do you truly believe that the general public are not being made criminals by ever increasing laws regarding every aspect
of every day life.

 if you define a speeder as a criminal then yes, and some laws I certainly don't see any need for. But some new laws are created because there are new ways to harm others.

3. Do police ever cover up for each other. police investigating police, really like that is a very unbiased system that is going to work.
do you really have faith in that.

speaking for my department, I have faith in it. We have a civilian Police Monitor office that works in conjunction with the I.A. investigators to make sure the citizens complaints are taken seriously. I can't speak for other departments but I believe there have been instances of cover up 

4. police never lie, fabricate evidence, with hold evidence, steal, beat or murder people.

some have, certainly

No matter how big or small the percentage in the police service is (as in the general public) they need routing out and dealing with.
not side lining, covering up, or excuses.

we agree on this

I see it as you sir who cannot or will not accept that there is some thing wrong.
Hence you are part of the problem.

I see you haven't been reading my posts if you have concluded that


You have completely ignored or tried to run rough shod over so many very accurate and good posts.
Not once acknowledging there is a problem.

Again.. you apparently haven't read what I have written
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 11:27:58 AM
You epitomise why police are hated.  They are flat out hypocrites, police justify committing crimes (fudging) to lock up so called criminals.  Modern Day Police are nothing more than an organised crime syndicate, a highly organised one.  Most peoples lives are far more negatively impacted by Police than by so called criminals.   You can spin your Police propaganda anyway you like, the public know the truth, and this is why they fear the Police far more than any organised crime gang.  

Your cute little story before about everyone being guilty and they just want to do whatever they like because of a dysfunctional upbringing is just you projecting the very reasons people become Police, they resented authority growing up and want to find a way to BECOME that authority so they believe they can place the shoe on the other foot.  I have known many policeman, none that I would say were pysholigally healthy, some of them outright psychopathic and all of them had strict, dysfunctional upbringings.

The General public can be relied upon for honest feedback, and if they hate and despise the Police, you can bet your bottom dollar there is good reason for it.  The Police have earned every skerrick of that hatred and resentment ten times over.  But due to the self righteous and we can do no wrong attitude of the Police they never address the Public's complaints as they are blind to see their own failings due to this warped worldview they have, Police Good, everyone else bad.

And you sir, underscore the point there is no talking to some people. They are so ate up with hate they aren't rational. Fortunately they are a very small percentage
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 11:25:48 AM
A lot of this is also fueled by the ever-increasing federal and state code which is rapidly making felons out of everyone for just going about their lives. The government at all levels wishes to have a reason to arrest anybody, anytime and they have bloated the penal code to give them that power.

And yes, the automatic assumption that Agnostic made that everybody is a criminal is a direct result of this. Is it any wonder that police feel justified on serving every warrant with a flash-bang and a company-sized invasion?

I am just saying that the public notices and the citizens of our country are able to do something about it.

Why do you believe the government at all levels wishes to have a reason to arrest anybody anytime?
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 11:24:02 AM
I dont think the majority of police are the problem. I think there are a lot of officers though that get an 'us vs them' mentality (as I noted earlier, although I believe your post was more in jest), and this mentality is noted by citizens creating this attitude of resentment and mistrust, especially with the onset of militarization of more and more police departments...

People are starting to view you less and less as protectors of the public, and more as over zealous disciplinarians who are just waiting for you to screw up so that they can punish you, which in turna makes you feel resented and you look at citizens with
mistrust. Its a viscious circle and someone has to be the bigger man; and we both known its not going to be the average citizen. As an officer, its their duty to not let the negativity of the job twist and corrupt their outlook on the citizens theyre supposed to be protecting.

Thats the difference imo, between and officer and a thug with a badge

Good post. I've seen the us vs them mentality and I've avoided it myself and tried to teach new officers better. I've had a partial qoute from Sir Robert Peel, considered a founding father of modern policing in my signature line at work for years. "The police are the public and the public are the police" He goes on to say "the police being the only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to the duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence." 
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: You win $25,000... on: July 15, 2014, 06:57:59 AM
AAPL
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 06:32:24 AM
how many of the people attacking the police in this thread have been subject to police brutality

its the most thankless job in the world

everyone is an armchair expert and has an opinion on how to do the job better

everyone wants the police to do nothing except when they are the victim and they expect the opposite

just as an example

I had a guy that attacked me with a samurai sword it was sheer luck I wasn't killed

when I overpowered him a crowd gathered and started giving me shit

no one helped

you get the police force you deserve

generation nothing deserves fuck all

This is a time when recording a violent act is more important than helping someone. We do seem to have a problem with todays society. But.....I remind myself that the majority of times people do jump in and do the right thing doesn't make it to youtube. In my opinion, the vast majority of citizens are hard working good people whether they speak up in the media or just go about their business..and they deserve a good police force   
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 06:28:25 AM
Some citizen was just recently acquitted of killing an officer in a no knock entry at the wrong house. Can't remember where, read it the other day.

When I go to sleep at night, I know I am not subject to a surprise visit by the cops because I am not engaged in criminal activity. If I were to suddenly be awakened by a crashing door there is a good chance my first thought would not be "Oh hell, it's the cops" and there is a very good chance someone would get shot. In the case mentioned, without knowing all the facts, if the cops made entry into the wrong house and someone died because of it, it shouldn't be the innocent party. It's tragic in any event but that is the risk the police take and in this case, I would agree with the verdict.   
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 06:22:18 AM
I think this is the heart and soul of the problem, right here. "Most citizens ARE guilty", right there youve automaticallu told ue you view most citizens as criminals and then went on to say its because you think they resent your authority.

That is a major issue. Im surealmost ALL ci tizens are guilty of breaking minor laws everyday,  just as im sure almost every police officer breaks minor laws and rules everday. That doesnt make them guilty or criminals, it makes them human.

Looking at citizens like theyre mostly guilty is what makes them resent you. It sets you apart from them and you cease being protectors and public servants and automatically become the asshole whos just trying to bust people to make his precinct some cash.

Yes, most citizens are dumbass hypocrites, but you signed up for the thankless job of protecting them, and thats what police seem to forget. Its your Outlook and attitude as an officer that defines you, that causes people to like the police or hate them.

 You look at them like theyre probably all bad guys and they're going to look right back at you like YOURE the bad guy, because you just made yourself the antagonist and enemy of a person who, statistically speaking,  has done nothing worthy of your suspicion.

My post was a reverse/parody of his post. Those are not my opinions
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 06:18:25 AM
Thats what bothers me the most.


In the past,  only the SWAT teams had military gear to respond to threats that were beyond normal police capability...

Now the regular PD is sporting body armor and full tactical gear with military weapons, performing no knock raids on the wrong houses with what amounts to zero military/tactical training.

What happened to the SWAT (SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS) teams being the paramilitary force? Why are regular officers sporting military gear and acting like soldiers?

I can't speak for every department but in Austin with a force of about 1800 officers and a city with over a million folks counting the suburbs we don't have regular officers geared up. All officers performing search warrants are tactically trained on dynamic entry. I understand the reasoning behind no knock entry. I would never make the call that officers have to announce their presence in every case. However, before a no knock entry is done, they better be 100% sure that is the right address and they have a legitimate reason for doing it. In the event entry is made at the wrong address due to negligence on their part, regardless of the outcome, I would advocate termination. If the outcome was injury to an innocent party, then charges. 
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 06:12:13 AM
What's your view on the militarization of police: the proliferation of swat teams, APCs and no-knock raids on non-violent offenders. The use of federal dollars and military materiel in local policing is obscene.

This is where the perception sea-change is coming from. I am at the point where I believe that a swat team at my door is just here to kill me and I will respond appropriately.

As far as federal dollars and military equipment. With the war winding down there are massive amounts of military equipment that will be moth balled. Most departments get this equipment free, since tax payers have already paid for it. I'm of the mindset that if there is equipment out there available to the police that will make them safer to do their jobs, then by all means use it. Of course that is within reason. 50 cals and grenade launchers in a residential enviornment is ridiculous but armored vehicles that provide protection to swat teams that have to get close to an armed subject, it's stupid not to use it. I realize there is a danger of overkill and perception to the public is important. But I want the officers to be as safe as possible to do their jobs.     
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 06:06:21 AM
This has been happening for awhile. You have to take into account the mentality and mental state of the people and the training or lack thereof of them as well. When many are being spit out of the academies as fast as they can, that has consequences. Then, there is the fact that the citizenry are worse---the culture of "I can do what I want, because 'I can'" and add that same mentality to some of the people who join police force as well.

You have a spiralling problem...

I've mentioned the book Corruption of the Noble Cause before. I read it and the author, thought I don't agree with his position on everything, I think does a good job of painting how something like Rampart can and did happen. 99% of the things cops do wrong aren't about taking bribes or illegal activities but grew from a warped sense of the noble cause. Catch the bad guy, and if you have to fudge a little to do it, it's all for the greater good. The public wants us to get the criminals off the street. Cops want to get the criminals off the street. The corruption starts in the first few years of their career when the seasoned officers teach the rookies how to fudge just a little to make sure the bad guy does time. Courts and the system these days are weighed for the bad guy, or at least the perception exists when the same officer is putting the same burglar away every 3 months. They spend so much time re-arresting the same 20% of the population they figure to even it out a bit. Then it snow balls into what you see on CNN. Then of course there are the thugs in uniform that were going to be abusive A holes no matter what. Unfortunately we hire from the population and even with the best efforts of finding the best people, a psycho gets through. I am optimistic that the scrutiny that exists today will be positive in the end by requiring departments who don't screen much at all, and don't train their officers properly to change their ways.     
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 05:56:26 AM
I think this is the bottom line.

I agree with Agnostic that the majority of cops are good and go about their business fine, HOWEVER, there has been a very definite shift in the police across the country towards a more militaristic type attitude and the firepower to go with it..

Also there has been a shift with more fuck ups than ever as far as mistreatment of civilians goes, kickong in doors of wrong houses and shooting the owners when they prepare to defend themselves from the unknown and unlawful intrusion...

And its not just the incidents, as pointed out, its about the lack of justice brought upon these officers and them knowing that theyre being held to a different standard than the citizens they police.

If anything they should be held to a HIGHER standard of conduct with harsher punishments, as they're supposed to be setting the example, not the ones dealing out punishment for laws they dont follow themselves.

People wouldn't get so lit up if the officers guilty of committing these atrocities had their lives ruined in the same way a civilian would, but that never seems to happen,  and therein lies the problem. Seems like they k ow they can do whatever the fuck they want and get a slap on the wrist.

If they knew theyd go to jail and rot for the rest of their life theyd probably hesitate a little longer before deciding to shoot the old man reaching for his cane as the officers break down his door with automatic weapons and no identification beforehand.

I agree with your overall point of accountability. I disagree with the idea of the increase in fuck ups. Here I am defending cops by saying "Well they were worse years ago" which is a pretty lame defense I'll admit. But I believe we have improved from 65 till now with training education and overall professionalism. I've said it before, it is worth repeating, the large majority of Internal Affairs cases are generated internally rather than externally. Meaning cops are reporting cops at a higher rate than citizens. You absolutely did not have that ratio even 20 yrs ago.

Holding officers to a higher standard- I agree. We are supposed to be the good guys. Most are. In general, there are two kinds of screw ups... Intentional and unintentional. (there are more catagories but those are the main ones). When a cop does something he knows is wrong, is against policy, against the law and immoral then I have no empathy for them and they should get what they deserve, depending on the act. From Written Reprimands to termination and charges filed. Those are the easy calls. What we see most of the time are unintentional ones. The officer wants to do the right thing, but makes a bad decision and the outcome is negative. The courts have held that policing in the best of situations is a tough job. We are compelled to confront people in sometimes the worst of situations. We are human and sometimes the decisions made with little time to analyze are in hind sight the wrong decisions. IF officers were hammered for every wrong decisions they make we would have no officers making any decisions for fear  the outcome, most times of which they have little control of, would be negative. So I understand the systems reluctance to do that.

As I write this a hundred things pop in my mind and I am tempted to rabbit trail into other issues as I have been in L.E. for 30 yrs and have seen first hand the evolution of my own department over the last 21 years. I think social media and smart phones have given the impression abuse has increased when it has decreased. Having said that, I agree there is still work to be done in holding officers accountable for their actions. We recently had an incident where one of our detectives was at a bank that had been robbed that morning. the manager advised the Detective that a subject had just tried to cash a check with a ID that belonged to another customer he knew. When the Detective questioned the subject the subject took off running. The Detective gave chase and when he caught up with the guy a struggle ensued and the Detectives gun went off inadvertently striking the subject in the back of the head killing him. An investigation took place and he resigned under investigation. He was recently indicted by a Grand Jury and it will go to trial. His actions, while his intent was good, were viewed by Grand Jury as possibly negligent enough to warrant further scrutiny at trial. I don't think the indictment made Youtube and I didn't read much about it on social media but that tends to be the way things go.      

      
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 15, 2014, 05:16:43 AM











Good post.

Only problem is The bully Boy police are seldom fired or charged,
And that is a major Problem To us the public.
Plus these scum police know the chances of them being accountable is very slim.
Police routinely Lie, fabricate evidence, frame people, beat people, etc and get away
with it. They retire on full pension or are moved to a easy desk job.
They don't suffer the same punishment as the public do, for their crimes.
If the police want to protect each other then What choice does It leave US.

No Trust, No Respect, No Confidence. in Them.



I appreciate that's your opinion. I think you're way off base. We can agree to disagree. But let me respond in like manner to perhaps illustrate how your post looks to me;

The only problem is, most citizens are guilty. They lie, cheat, steal and when they get caught they whine about consequences. They want the protection of the police, they want police to enforce the laws but only for other people, not them. They hate being told no when they want to do something illegal and so they cry and point fingers at the cops because even as children, they resented their parents, teachers, anyone in authority and view the police as the people telling them they can't do whatever they want. 
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 14, 2014, 11:13:53 AM
Its getting bad man. I know youre a cop so youre on the other side but public opinion is quickly turning to believing most police departments are getting out of control.

Most people believe either the Democratic or Republican party has their best interest at heart. Most believe a supernatural being watches over them. Obviously some people will believe anything if you show it in TMZ or CNN. Again, I'm not saying there are not bad cops out there. I'm not saying that somewhere in America today, some cop won't be video taped doing something stupid or worse, criminally violent. What I'm saying (My opinion) is that cops today are overall much better than cops 40 yrs ago when it comes to use of force. The difference is obviously the fact today, if police aren't recording themselves via their in car camera, someone else is. There are literally thousands of police contacts daily with citizens that go very well, as they should. Great calls made under the worst of circumstances is the norm. What we get to watch are the very small percentage that screw up. I agree there shouldn't be ANY of those and certainly work towards that goal, but the reality is much different than peoples perceptions in this case. I get upset as well when I watch the video of the cop using excessive force. They need to be fired, or if the incident warrants it, fired and charged with a crime. But I realize that both statistically and from my personal experience, that behavior is the exception.     
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Online rants, anti-government radicals fuel fear of U.S. cop killings on: July 14, 2014, 10:50:32 AM
Obviously I don't think "cops are out of control" and I don't think this fuels fear in cops of being ambushed. It's always a concern but that's the nature of the job. There are always going to be some morons running around hating cops.
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