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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: RONNIE BEATS ME, quote from Dorian Yates
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on: December 15, 2005, 03:54:33 PM
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Yates quads in fact are strange - the rectus femoris? or muscles beside the teardrops insert very high or infact not at all, giving the impression dorian actually lacks the muscles. You can't flaw the mans hams or calves but he definelty lacks the outer sweep and quad flair of other bbers
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kevin Levrone!
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on: December 12, 2005, 11:07:57 AM
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I don't think so. The bruising tend to go all over the place. Just look at Dorian's arm after tearing the bicpes...
I wish he would of just stopped right there and saved us the next few years of seeing his bloated god awful body on stage. Sport might of stood a chance too and been completely different today |
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Getbig Misc Too Board / 2007 IFBB Contests Info & Threads / Re: 2005 IFBB Europa Southwest Pro Results
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on: September 18, 2005, 06:21:17 AM
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Flex is still garbage. Warren is a freak, jackson is good but still needs more sweep in his quads and his calves - well not much can be done. Pavol looks downsized a little still awesome conditioning. Luke wood i thought might do better but he's got incredible potential. Nasser looks dreadful and i don't like looking at his pics, its upsetting to think what he once was like and how far he's fallen |
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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on: June 05, 2005, 09:56:50 AM
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Oh yes not on his best day  That picture says it all. Not on his damnest best day. Why ND, do you post a pic where dorian is clearly not as good as ronnie? Not only taht but you insist on comparing pics from a compettition to some black and white studio-esque shot which renders your post meaningless before any comparison should be made |
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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on: June 04, 2005, 11:59:57 AM
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Ronnies quads are bigger and in this instance better. But one thing that is rarely remarked is the development of yates thigh rods. They were the most prominent around. i can only think of one pro today with equivalent development - cormier. If you watch the mr O vids during the yates era he would tense his quads while angled outwards to let the crowd know!
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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on: June 03, 2005, 05:37:00 AM
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No, many shots are from the 1993 Olympia, his all-time best shape (see the shots of his midsection) and this shot:   Dorian just doesn't have the shape or vascularity to compete at Ronnie's level. Yeah this settles it in my mind. Even though it is just one shot it highlights quite nicley why ronnie is leagues above doz - namely sheer muscle mass, shape, seperation, vascularity and equal conditioning. Dorian is great and he was no doubt dealt the genetic badhand and has made the most of it more than most but ronnie is just on another level. |
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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on: June 02, 2005, 04:53:16 AM
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Nah. No chance does anyone beat ronnie on rear double bis shot. his calves only appear small from the front where the sheer volume of his frontal thighs really is apparent. from the back they seem more in line. Coupled with better splits, more separation, greater back width, better natural shape and a far more exaggerated v taper with equal thickness and density give ronnie the edge
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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on: May 30, 2005, 03:32:36 PM
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Yates Biceps were weak one year you moron. The arm consists of Biceps, tri's and Forearms. Yates owns Ronnie on Tri's and forearms and therefore has better arms.
WTF are you talkin about. Yates biceps were al;sways poor even pre-op. They were torn for 96 and 97! Quit talkin garbage, "yates owns ronnie" what trash |
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Could Cutler beat Dorian.
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on: May 30, 2005, 09:18:56 AM
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Hulkster wanted two photos of Yates in competition that equalled Coleman's condition in those pics , and if you take a look at any of those pics they equal and I'll go so far as to say his condition at the 1993 Mr Olympia surpasses Colemans .
Ronnies arms aren't better than Yates thats a myth , Ronnies biceps are better than Yates , Yates has better triceps & forearms .
And Hulkster if you're going to use the best picture of Coleman as an example of his better back double bicep shot , you have to use Yates' best picture not one where he is not his best , but thats your M.O. you post subpar pics of Yates when comparing to Coleman to prove a point get angry when people post pics of Coleman with his gut hanging out lol pure hypocrisy , Coleman's back double bicep shot being the best in the history of the sport? I don't think so , not when he has a giant ass and no calves.
This back double bicep shot of Yates has a few things Coleman's doesn't like much better balance between upper & lower body , much better proportion between muscles , obviously Coleman's biceps are better , but his giant ass and weak calves hurt him in this shot .
Yates beat Coleman 5 times and when he beat him in 94 Coleman was smallish , in 95 Coleman came into his own and started to win , in 96/97 he started to come into his own and place real high in contests and beat Flex , so stop acting like it was when Momo beat Yates , Yates was 220lbs when Momo beat him Coleman was at least near his best weight of 250lbs when Yates beat him in 96/97 .
And lets entertain for a moment Coleman has " superior " muscle shape to Yates , big deal , Flex Wheeler had superior muscle shape then both Yates & Coleman and Yates always beat Flex . so much for that .
Yates beat the best at thier best because he was simply more complete , sans 94 , he had size , condition , balance , proportion , symmetry , and he was complete from head to toe , front to back , and he simply looked better in the 7 mandatory poses than the rest of the guys.
In 98 almost everyone on the Pro circuit beat Ronnie Coleman previously , the only reason Coleman won against Flex , was beacuse he was off , he won because Flex wasn't 100%
right out the box Yates was a winner he was only beat a handfull of times , while Coleman was beat month in month out by everyone , and like it was stated he was beat while being Mr Olympia , in their respective peaks in thier all time best shapes Dorian Yates was beat Ronnie Coleman , like he beat the best of the best of the 90s , simply because he has fewer flaws and is more complete.
Bottom pic , Coleman 1996 Mr Olympia at around 250lbs
I stopped reading this the moment i read that yates arms were better than colemans. WTF? This is yet another classic nugget of ND wisdom that defies convential thought and popular opinion. Yates whose arms are KNOWN to be weak relative to the rest of his physique and his contempories (fer christsakes the man had a torn bicep - does this mean nothing to you ND) are inferior to colemans in every singel way possible. You could make a case for his triceps being sharper but ronnies comes back atcha with superior shape. And if i read some comment about Ronnies "small" forearms I'll have a shit! |
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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Training Q&A / Re: The Gerard/Trap Bar Deadlift & Shrug - Is It The New "Greatest Single Exercise"?
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on: May 13, 2005, 09:00:17 AM
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agree an excellant piece of equipmetn seldom found in gyms these days. i had the pleasure of using one for a year while away at uni and got awesome results. i was young and maybe by mere instinct recognised its superiorty over classic deads and similarty to squats. after 3 sets of 20 reps squats with 60 secs rest i'd proceed to trap bar deadlifts for another 3 sets 20 with 60 sec rest. i was absolutely fried and felt the exercise all in the right places, ie my quads - since it was leg day. what a pump!
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bruce Lee's Lats
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on: May 11, 2005, 04:26:32 AM
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this is not about who is the strongest, it's about the extraordinary things lee could do. Lee was the fittest man on the planet. Pound for pound he was one of the strongest men that ever lived, we have eye-witnesses for all you morons. All one has to do is read a book or watch a documentary. by the way, yeah Coleman IS stronger, yet I wouldn't be surprised if Bruce would beat him in a couple of exercises. Then again, Coleman can do only one thing, and that's pick up heavy weights. Bruce trained heavy, ran long distances, and knocked out guys like Ron with one single punch. It's how you look at it, to me Bruce is the stronger guy in the sense that he'd kill Ronnie in 10 seconds if he had to WHAAAAAA!!!!! luv that pic  bullcrap. how is one of the strongest men that every lived. what type of strength are you referring to? put lee up against any world class powerlifter around his same weight and theyde eat him for lunch. so how is bruce lee exactly one of the strongest. isnt it time people stopped deifying this guy. im sick of hearing 30 years later how he'd kick everyones ass |
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Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bruce Lee's Lats
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on: May 11, 2005, 02:49:09 AM
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Again can Ronnie Coleman the strongest bodybuilder ever do two finger push-ups? can he hold a dumbell half of his bodyweight outstretched at shoulder lenght for 2 seconds? can Ronnie run 3 miles without dying lol I didn't think so  this is absurd. pitching bruce is stronger than coleman. get a grip. and what a surprise you managed to get a few digs into a coleman in a "brue lee" thread. what next huh, maybe steve reeves versus coleman. no wait you've already done it. |
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