coming from the fan-boy with the backed fired thread that Dorian's gut may have started earlier than we think HAhahahahahah rubbish you say? I never once said I don't get Ronnie that's your claim in fact I said he could beat Dorian him and Flex are the only ones that stood a legitimate chance

YOU on the other hand only post defamatory statements which is fine by me but don't accuse others of doing the same

All those photographers, yet not one has ever snapped a shot of Big Ron throwing a proper side chest.   

Please show me where I never said " I don't get Ronnie " I'll be waiting too

I said Ronnie could beat Dorian , I said NONE of Ronnie's contest placings were fixed , I never said Ronnie was ' overrated ' or ' stinking judging ' big difference

stinking judging i.e. politics i.e. the fix is in

stop pussy footing with the semantics game .

you're just another ignorant guy who ' just doesn't get it when it comes to Dorian ' and because you can't get it there must be something wrong with the ' judging ' and not you

Nasser in 1997 did beat Dorian in the front relaxed , front double biceps and maybe the ab-thigh other than that he failed from the side and the back

and the old ' politics ' plea , Dorian didn't really dominate the Weider's handpicked him to win because he was white lol

the ' organisation ' is an embarrassment when you disagree with the winner but A-okay when you do 

It's the side chest Ronnie not the side delt pose

check the rear lat spread pic of kai vs phil.  phil's is pathetic

most of those shots are from 93.

we are not talking about 93.

94 and onwards was post tear and dorian never looked the same as he did pretear.

thats where shawn overtook him:

  He's getting KO'd. Punching is as much about technique as it is about power, and Mariusz has zero of the former. Furthermore, on the ground, his strength will be actually lower than his rivals, because they gain so much from leverage. He will be KO'd if the fight ends standing. Or he will tap out if the fight ends on the ground.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

  Right. so because he did some amateur boxing for a few months or even years make his technique at punching equivalent to that of a professional boxer or MMA fighter, who actually does this for a living training 10 hours a day just for this? Guess what? I am a BJJ black belt and yet I have no illusions that I could tap out Fedor.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You should re-structure. Also dorian liked to do the pullpullovers early in the routine to pre-exhaust his lats as he had torn his bicep doing reverse-grip rows. The BEST routine would be one which isolates the lats first and then allows you to work inward recruiting your traps while still stimulating your lats.

Dumbell pullovers
Barbell rows- either overhand or reverse- or reverse on ez-bar
reverse grip pulldowns
high rep seated pulley rows
behind the neck pulldowns
deadlifts

Always use a dumbell for pullovers- dorian use the machine because most of his gym was full of nautilus and when you are 315 lbs it's a bit tough to lie on the bench and swing a huge dumbell around.

Always deadlift heavy. It's pointless otherwise.

BB rows kill DB rows for effectiveness. There is little comparison.

Dude, it's more than 10 years later and Doz has long since retired.  Why are you still fantasizing about his gut?  Are you gayer than me? 

gyno crushes synthol:

There is no perfect routine.... what matters is the intensity and form of your workouts, are you getting a real pump /blood into the muslces or are you simply heaving massive poundages for all to notice.

That said here is a sample of my own routine:

* stretch before routine and in between all sets

1. Barbell Rows(underhand grip) on Smith Machine: This takes the lower back out of the equation. Also I utilize hooks instead of wraps to assist my grip and when it gives out on all back exercises.  I start at 135 for 15-20 warm-up, then do 185 for 10, then do 225 for 10, then do my first working set of 245 to max, immediately drop to 185 for max then to 135 for a max, thats 1 set. I do this type of "set" 2 more times and move on to machine pull-downs.

2. Machine Pull-downs(I use wide, overhand grip): Same formula, 1st set is at 100 lbs for 15, next 160 for 10, then the whole stack for 10(stack weighs about 225) then drop to 160 to failure then 100 to failure and thats 1 set, repeat 2 more times. By now I have a massive pump in the lats and the constant strectching only allows for greater blood flow. Next I will hit lying dumbell pullovers.

3. Lying dumbell pullovers : I start with a 40 lb dumbell for 15 reps, then 60 for 10 then 75 for for 10-15(75 is the heaviest they have in the gym), then I do 3 more sets with the 75 lb dumbell, I really love this exercise better than all the rest since it gives me the best stretch and pump and totally eliminates the biceps from the equation.

4. Last will be Barbell shrugs on smith machine - my traps are really developed so I do 135 for 10, 225 for 10, then 315 for 10, then immediately drop to 225 to failure then 135 for 15-20 and that's it for back.

Notes: You noticed no d-lifts, I have a back problem(bulging disc) so I stay away from weighted d-lifts, but if you have no injuries stopping you from doing them then by all means add them in last to your routine.

Thats what I do, and I have had amazing results form the amount of weights/volume I do in a given workout. I rest very little between sets since I value a pump more than trying to heave massive amounts of weight.

Good luck