the problem is that because of insurance purposes my place of work sends every test to a lab client or worker. but even if it showed a higher test lvl they wouldnt think anything right off hand i suppose eh?

This but about 150 for reps for me

Right....i just asked a former security gaurd from here that works in the gym with me and he said thats not on the test and that its a different kind of test altogether, im just nervous about it seeing as how the job market is really bad in my town and this place will fire you at a snap of a finger.

One more question for you.....can you get good results from just deca or test by themselves? If not could you possibly lay out a decent cycle for me? Im extremely new at this stuff lol thanks for all the help

a 6 panel is the type of test they use here ( i work at a drug rehab facility ) it detects meth crack coke weed shit like that......but they also send our piss to an outside tester too. Ive heard its VERY EXPENSIVE to test for gear and this place is kinda cheap in that area. Also detection times do me no good as they are random tests.

Can gear show up on a 6 panel piss test?

Btw its not a joke or troll thread i was seriously asking and thanks for all the feed back guys, I had thought it was probably bullshit but just had to make sure. Thanks again all

I DO want to go the real route but just dont know where to go to order from

Anyone know anything about them? They advertise in FLEX every issue and say that there products are so close chemically to the real thing that only a trained bio chemist could tell the difference in structure. Is this a good way to go since i get dropped all the time for my job? Thanx

This chic is just awesome

ok so how many calories are required to grow? i can break down carbs protein and fat from this on my own i think

thx!!

i run the gym where i work at now and have watched clients of mine do this and the workouts are just what they say INSANE

i would LOVE to be that strong.....thats very good for a natti indeed

Does this actually help you gain muscle size as well? Im looking for a routine that will give me the best of both worlds

No lol unfortunately with me having that back fusion almost three years ago now i have little choice in not being able to do any ring work nowadays. i tried to bench a bit the other day and was very surprised in how much less weight i could handle even after only a 1 1/2 week layoff, Im still very eager to get back to training tho as its time to get serious again

Hell sounds good to me. Ive been off from training myself as i suffered a sprained wrist 2 weeks ago and its just now starting to heal. Today is my first chest day in a few weeks now

Hey man ive just been working and working out and havent has time To get on in awhile. Thx for the advice, how have u been?

Damn now that was a nice lift

tyvm

So i wanna try and get into a powerlifting/bbing routine so i can start gaining some real strength along with good muscle gain. Anyone have a good routine for this that they could share?

So i think im good with my protein ( i take 50-60gms before and about the same if not more post workout but the one thing im concerned about is the carbs ESPECIALLY post workout.

How many carbs is good post workout for trying to gain muscle size? and how many carbs in a day should one take in if trying to gain muscle?

Thx

idk what it was but the c/pb and choc did it bad but the strawberry is great tasting and doesnt give me the shits so idk what the hell the prob was

has anyone else tried this protein? it has a high amount of glutamine per serving and im just wondering if maybe that in itself can cause diarreha?

Ok so i have cut out the front raises after last weeks workout since my front delts were hurting very badly for about 3 days straight. so now i only do front presses,upright rows rear delt flyes side raises and face pulls along with shrugs

Im taking it that you guys think its a bad routine......i hope not but if so could anyone give me some tips on how to gain some shoulder size? My shoulders have always been a weak point when compared to the rest of my body. As an example during the most muscular pose my shoulders tend to flatten out in front and my rear delts ALWAYS look flat or non existing from the sides no matter what i do to bring that up.