Drug tests don't come back that quick. (Usually))

haha prob failed the drug tests.

its not just the water. it's proportions.

his legs overpower his torso. his torso overpowers his arms. his arms overpowers his forearms. he's like a bodybuilder upside down. and his wide leg stance just makes it worse.

his work ethic may be the best in the world, just as a natural twink somewhere might have exact the same ethic  - it isnt revelant.

Layne seems like a great guy...I think I`d like to converse with him about bb in person.

I could give two fucks if he`s on anything,but I hope he`s not, solely because he competes as a natural bb..............somethin g he frowns upon is enhanced guys doing natty contests.

On the other hand,some of his lifts are among the best in the world which makes you think he`s taking a ton of shit,since no natty has ever lifted this much and his lifts are on par with the top guys who do juice.

I`m not naive,just don`t wanna` bash the guy as he gets enough shit.........I`ll keep my thoughts to myself considering his natural status,but he still seems like a pretty good dude to me regardless of whether he`s clean or not.

Your own inabillity to asses a physique and accurately estimate its numbers does not make it a law where no one can.

The more you are in an enviroment the more we all learn about it.

When I first came in the gym years ago I didn't know the difference between a brad pit body and my own at that time.

Now just by looking at people it is possible to estimate their weight, bodyfat % and even what they are using.

How is this possible? All steroids and drugs work in certain ways on a body, therefore all one needs to learn is the markers that these drugs are in use.

What GH15 is always saying is that training and even food are not the make-or-break factors in creating modern day bodies. It's the drugs.

This observation is 100% true.

I myself used to do the natural thing for years: eating perfect and boring, training hardcore and reading everything in sight.

6 months of HGH, test and at the end tren and the results are much better then all the years combined.

In addition there is now no need to do cardio that much or at all, food is inconsistent comparing to the old days and the training is at least 3 times shorter.

Building a body is like building a house, you can have all the plans ready, people working on it but with no 'assisted' materials (HGH and steroids) you WILL build a house but just like the houses of the 1950's.

Natural bodybuilding and its bodies have remained largely the same since the start of the sport, but enhanced bodies have made leaps of evolution only possible with these talked about drugs.

If gh15 was really a pro, he's be honest with you and tell you that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to accurately tell how "big" a person is in picture. When a person is very lean it's even tougher.

Middleweights look like super heavy weights when they are standing all by themselves in photo and vice versa.

Yet, he puts measurement numbers on arms (17.5") and body fat percentage (10%) from pro's photos, to getbigger's photos, to Layne Norton's photos.

He's talking out of his ass and he knows it.

Getbiggers don't know it though.

He makes everyone bigger and leaner than they really are, assigning number, and bingo, they're all on drugs.

If there weren't steroids in this world, gh15 would have no importance in this world except for telling getbiggers about space aliens and McCain winning the presidential election.

Do people use steroids? Yes. All? Hell no.

gh15 is precisely what he claims all bodybuilders to be: delusional, lying, and full of self-importance.

Too late.    Robbed of all canine dignity there.

what do you mean you audition solo???....explain???

Too bad Oakman forgot his skinfold meter today.....

The Oak knows....Intensity.

The Oak knows....SPANDEX!!!!!!!!!!