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1  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Anavar or Winstrol? on: May 12, 2013, 07:51:30 AM
Anavar! absolutely no question... Make sure u have a source with legit anavar.

But they say: you need minimal 60-80 mg anavar daily to compare with 50 mg winstrol dailly

True?
2  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Anavar or Winstrol? on: May 10, 2013, 09:18:55 AM
Hi Guys,

I am wondering the following: Anavar is more known in increasing strength then winstrol.
However, winstrol is known for more increasing lean massa then anavar.

True or false?

3  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: how to come off successfully ..... on: April 15, 2013, 01:07:03 PM
i thought you kept your hair?

I mean in general for people who are prone to hairloss
4  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: how to come off successfully ..... on: April 14, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
lol,yeah, when i come off, the first month the little water under skin goes away, muscle remain there, but strenght vanishes, but it looks very very good.then comes slow deflation.
then you try to religiously keep protein intake and diet in check, all the while getting weaker and weaker in the gym, with patethic "pumps".

needing much more rest days between trainings.

loking smaller and smaller, this is all ok, but then suddenly you look into miror and notice how the msucle separation is simply withering away even though you diet kinda strictly.and then you start getting fatter, bit by bit.

and after 4months you look lie someone who trained naturaly for a year with some bloof, while dieting and eevrything.

then you go to doctor and get hrt script and end this comedy Cheesy

Yes and the only thing it remebers you of the use of roids is a bald head Embarrassed
5  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 11, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
explain, i dont know this one

TBol=Oral Turinabol.

No dht, no aromatisation,
Androgenic value = zero

In Holland Tbol is not famous because it must be harsh on the liver and the results are not so big. I don't know it.

Below some information about TBoll.
The change for hairloss is very small Grin



Oral-Turinabol

Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's.

Oral-Turinabol has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect of Oral-Turinabol is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milligram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Testosterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concentration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

0.4 x pound (body weight) x days = number of tablets to take overall during the interval of intake
mg / tablet


An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fat burning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy looking muscle system. If Oral-Turinabol were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

Oral-Turinabol enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reliable source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the compound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposi-tion, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dos-ages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestos terone is I 7-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.
6  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 11, 2013, 01:08:33 PM
is a dht derivate so will still cause hairloss

i think

TBol..........
7  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 11, 2013, 12:56:27 PM
it's pretty well established deca with finasteride is a big NONO

and since you cant take deca without testosterone....

deca is pretty much no option, since you cant take test without finasteride if you're prone to hairloss and trying to maintain hair

i believe primobolan is a dht derivate and so it would bypass the finasteride dht forming blocking mechanism

Yeahh, and deca only is not wise (deca dick) anavar is also dht derivate.
Primo is not a dht derivate but dhb derivate...
Maybe Equipose

Or Test 250 mg + 30 mg anavar per day+ 1 mg fina?
8  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 11, 2013, 11:51:00 AM
i thought i had it figured out

*test enanthate (maximal 500mg)
*finasteride 2.5mg
*arimidex to balance the estrogenization

but turns out that arimidex is pandora box


interested in seeing final solution


I am doubing about adding primo or deca...
9  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 10, 2013, 05:25:18 AM
I know i am a coward with AAS but i still don;t know what's the best choice for me

-I am 42 years old and i had a HIT 10 years ago, next year i am planning another one (and the last)

I want to gain 6 kg lean muscles without hairloss and libido problems.

What is the best choice for me? i am training alreay 25 years and my bodyweight is 97 kg with BF 17%

Who can advise me? Huh
10  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 10, 2013, 05:21:39 AM
no way man...I rather stay natural.

why? afraid for hairloss or other seroius health issues?

I can imagine...
11  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 09, 2013, 11:07:43 AM
Admittedly, I put it off for years thinking I'd be bald anyway and start then. Haven't gone bald yet but lost motivation for the gym like you did. You know...natural limit.

And don't worry man...not everyone will get gyno after stopping adex. A lot of people have been able to get off it w.o developing it.

Come on, try some little roids, time is going quick..... Wink
12  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 09, 2013, 11:06:23 AM
It's been months and poor christo still hasn't made up his mind.

I know it bro... i am still doubing which is the best choice for me.... Undecided
13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 09, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
the first one is definitely not hair friendly if ur prone to hairloss

second im not sure

Why is the first cycle not hair friendly? deca is hairfriendly. Primo is not hairfriendly or am i wrong? Huh
14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: April 08, 2013, 09:59:52 AM
Hi guys

Which stack is more hairfriendly?

-Test/Deca 250/200 without finasteride?
Test/Primo 250/200- with finasteride?
15  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: what is the correct way to use arimidex while on test and finasteride? on: March 23, 2013, 11:04:19 AM
well i'm using 2.5mg finasteride per day, half arimidex every 3rd day, 300mg test enanth per week

Did you encounter hairloss with this and how is your libido?
16  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: First cycle test only and pct only ( of course) on: March 23, 2013, 10:59:54 AM
no problem,just do it and never look back.

dont listen to guys with alegedly complicated theories and stuff.

its all very simple.

Dear Galeniko,

After 8 weeks you will not respond anymore at the same dosage so to use this for 6 months it's useless and your axis will not like it.
17  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Using Nandralone for Best Results on: March 19, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
i know exactly what dennis wolf took.every single compound and the amounts.

most big pros use test 1-2 gramms weekly as base, 10-20 ius gh and some insulin.thats that, reduce the test a bit and replace with dieting drugs for diet and thats about it.

theres no magic tricks.

I cannot image that D.Wolf tells his secret to somebody.
I am very curious about this. please can you tell?
18  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Using Nandralone for Best Results on: March 19, 2013, 01:19:18 PM
roughly how much gear do you think the top 5 in the last Mr O were using? half that?

What should guys like Cutler use? the double to gain weight?
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: AAS & Hair Loss on: February 21, 2013, 12:51:00 PM
dennis wolf is going bald

-There are more baldy pro BB nowaday then20 years ago...

-Everybody is very positive about ketoconazole but in their description stands that ket can cause hairloss?HuhHuhHuh?
20  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Hair transplant and AAS on: February 21, 2013, 11:58:12 AM
theoretically transplanted hair are dht resistent

the bulk of your hair is non transplanted hair and can fall when minutarized by dht. you are absolutely insane to only care about your transplanted hairs, because when the other hairs fall you will look like palumbo at best

so you need to be on finasteride for life and make sure not to use any roids that finasteride cannot block

pretty sure that only leaves testosterone

dht derivates by definition by-pass the mechanism of finasteride





nandrolone causes complications with finasteride which causes more hairloss supposedly


Thanks for your feedback bro. i really appreciate it.
You mention that transplanted hairs theoretical are dht immune but you are not sure about this? Shocked




21  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Hair transplant and AAS on: February 19, 2013, 12:08:04 PM
Hi guys,

I know i am xtreme, but i want to know the following.

I am prone to MPB and i have a hairtransplant (HT). are my transplanted hairs immune for AAS?
I know the other hairs can fall out but my concern are the transplanted hairs? i think they must be immune because they are coming from an area which are immune for DHT attacks but i am not sure because some medicals aren't sure about it.

In Europe there is less experience then in the USA so therefore my question.

Hopefully somebody can help me with that.

Thanks in advance!
22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Deca with? on: January 29, 2013, 01:05:06 PM
Run it with dbol, old saying by Dan Duchaine is that if u can't grow on deca and dbol, you won't grow at all!

Or just run it with hcg

HcG? for to protect my balls and deca dick?
23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Deca with? on: January 27, 2013, 07:50:16 AM
I want to use deca without test. Are there any possiblities which i can use with deca what isn't test and which not lowers my libido?

Thanks guys


24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: finasteride to stop hairloss on: January 27, 2013, 07:47:05 AM
sex drive is over rated

as long as you're not impotent

Not true. Your libido will decrease with Finasteride.

Do you not notice gyno?
25  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Mr Olympia 2012 Pre Contest Cycle on: January 14, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
A good friend of mine gave me the "okay" to publicly post one of his clients pre contest "cycles" for this past Mr Olympia 2012 as long as I kept it anonymous (obviously).

I thought the Getbig crowd would appreciate this information, as usual.

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I. 16-8 weeks out
500mg sustanon ED
300mg deca EOD
300mg eq EOD
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout
100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout
200mg TNE 90 mins pre workout

2. 8-4 weeks out
200mg test propionate ED
100mg TNE 3x per day
100mg tren acetate ED
600mg tren enanthate EW
200mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout

3. 4-1 Weeks Out
150mg TNE 3x per day
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
50mg halotestin ED
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day

4. 1-0 weeks out
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
60mg halotestin ED
100mg dbol ED
100mg anadrol ED
10iu hulamog with each meal

*diuretics not included.




Do you think, Cutler and Heath are using more roids than this?
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