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1  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 23, 2014, 11:21:49 AM
Offcourse first i am going to lower bij BF to 14% before using aas
2  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 23, 2014, 11:19:37 AM
well thanks for the answers

I want to explain you my current situation:

I am 42 years old and i have build up a solid base of 98 kg my bf is 18%. I am training for 25 years natty
So i am planning a cycle for 10 weeks, really no longer.
People write in Germany that 250 mg test is not 250 mg test but only approx 180 mg because you may not count the esterweight of the stuff.
180 mg is nearly 2 times your naturally test level so why supressing your axis for that low amount?
If you use 500 mg test the supression is the same than for 250 mg.
If you then add some masteron or primo less aromatizing and less oestrogen effects you will get but a lot of more gains?

These are not my words but from the others.
So what is your answer to that?

Anyway i hope you want to respond again because i am still doubing.

Many thanks guys
These are not my words bro but theirs from Germany
3  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 22, 2014, 04:21:53 AM
Hi Gal,

My last question to you:

If somebody wants to cycle only 10-12 weeks with test only, do you advise him also 250 mg or 500 mg (first timer)

I am waiting for your response Wink

Thanks in advance
4  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 20, 2014, 11:47:24 AM
yp cristo, there will not me immunization to test,it always always works the same, its just that you max out on gains and then nothing more happens unless you raise dose or add other compounds etc.

but, i swear the maing out on real real muscle, for a natty, on 2-300mg weekly,takes about 6-12 months.

under those first timer circumstance, one will benefit one year without changing naything on the regiment, this is simply the time the body takes to grow those muscles.

after that, its time to ask oneself, am i happy with the result or do i want more.

dont ask yourself this before 1 year non stop on, this is a decent benchmark.

doing 1 cycle, going off, then double strenght-dose cycle and going off i svery stupid and will have poor long term results.

1 year non stop for newcomer, then get shredded,see whats left and ask yourself is it enough, most cases will be,ill say again, the results will be better than one excpcects,better than the on off b;lasters.

or you can then settle for always trt of kinds +1 compound for summer, as help tool to be more shredded etc.or gh.whatver one wants.

the testicle axis, while im no doctor, let me express my views on this.
all the pct will not really help.you stop gear, dnt bother with pct, gearhead never ever fully reover anyway.
but youll recover quite fast to an ok-ish level, were talking few weeks here.but after that theres no further recovery,not even in years to come.

now, what shuts ones own production down the most?

is it dosage,is it compounds, is it lenght of cycle?

i think, maybe its individualy different, but what i think is this:

when running test only low to moderate dosages,the shutdown is not bad at all, even after 6months, even after 2 years non stop use.

now if dosage is higher, coming down from high dsages to low, this always always feels worse than coming of from trt.waay worse.

now, other compounds than test, it doesnt evn matter if its the weaker ,less androgenic ones, they seem to shut the ais down much much faster, and worse than test.examples, deca is weak but shuts you right down.tren isnt sooo androgenic its debatable whether its even more androgenic than test, shuts you down bad too, smae with winny, same with mast, eq etc.
i feel everything else but test has the worse impact on shutdown.

libido is individual, some even feel an increase after coming off, maybe they recover faster.

cheers


Thanks again bro

I want to know you thoughts about the following

There is a german bb guy an amateur champion who claims the following. 6 weeks test 250 and primo 200. After six weeks 10 days clomid 50 mg
After 3 months nada again the same cycle and dosages. Repeat every 3 months
He claims he never has any side effect, has always very quick hpta recovery, so less loss of mucles and steady lean gains with a healthy look
He only use test and primo with same amounts and lengths
There is a lot of discussion about this in germany

What do you think?
5  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 18, 2014, 01:13:28 PM
Something went wrong with my previous reply
6  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 18, 2014, 01:11:39 PM
no problem.

man, you can leave out both the primo and deca, theyre weak as shit compared to test, and its 1 source less of possible sides.

the 300mg test will give enough water and fluid in the joints to ease the pain,btw that pain doesnt go away,its there you still do damage to the tissue,maybe even moreso,simply bc you cant feel the pain nomore.

this following is maybe the best tip i ever gave:dont do any exercise not even 1single rep when it hurts the joints.

in conclusion, just run test for itslef for half year and all will be good.

Thanks again Gal for your comment. Sorry for my late response.
Anyway what is going to happen after 6 or 12 months on? My hpta will be zero and my libido?because i shut my system during large time?
What about immunization for the test after 8 weeks?

if you want to run somethign along with that, all factors considered, eq will be best, can be ran forever.
7  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 14, 2014, 02:07:20 PM
yeah get reasonably lean first, really.

at 12% and more youre not doing yourself any favours.

ofc, an experienced lifter can do it,if they get fat faaat after long training break, but thats not the same.

if too fat, cant start gaining, will look an absolute mess and the water retention will be terrible, folowd by health issues potentialy.

esp being 15% and doing "a cycle".better dont.its pointless.youre fat, will gain water, then come off.what was the purpose?

Thanks for your reply Gal. I will first cut a little before using AAS
But what should be your choice in my case? primo or deca as mentioned?

Thanks again!
8  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: March 13, 2014, 01:50:49 PM
@Galeniko:

I dont know if i already asked you:

I want to do the following 1 timer:

TestE 300 mg
Deca 100-125 mg *schoulder/joint injury)

Because i think the deca can strenghten my schoulderjoints plus the little deca can support the test, i think it is quite a good choice. also prostate problems and baldness is less a problem with the deca.

From the other part: i am thinking to replace the deca for a little primo at 200 mg per week.

Because my BF is 17-18% the primo should be a better choise than the deca?

please can you advise ?

Thanks again Galeniko!!!
9  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: February 23, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
What about shrinking balls when 52 weeks on with 250 mg Test E?

What about hcg?
10  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: February 22, 2014, 08:26:38 AM
@Gal: Soory for to bother you again: I forgot 1 question:

Does your body not adapt to the same dose when using it a whole year continuosly? and what about myostatin which can block the grow after time when on. people write that after 8 weeks they do feel less progression on the same dosages?
11  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: February 22, 2014, 08:11:07 AM
well, sure a heavyweight competitor(!) will have to be on a gramm ,give or take.

but this doesnt mean a bloody beginner should start on that dose.or get to that dose within a year,even.

or start on 500mg test first cycle.this is plan stupid.

if 200mg deca weekly will give gains to newcomer, why would they take more.
yes brother ,years of experience and seen the ppl come and go.
few are left over, im still here.healthy,jacked,all good.hell even my hair is still there Grin

i seen the high dosage guys coming and going.failing.one after the other.they ask me man what you take, i tell them 1 test but always, they no believe, bc they on 10times more.
they start lifting, por diet ,2gramms gear, and well nothing happens.all acne.
?
they go off and going off 2 gramms is rdiculously terrible, so bad that many never return, also they open all dors to side efects.for what?

sure the pro sized ppl take plenty. not as much as i read on the internet,though, but anyway,they didnt start out like that.
they built the dose up slowly.

listen to those who look best, who look good year round, for years, never listen to anonymous internet personas.the single one reason why they dont show pics is bc they look like shit

none of that "im running for presdient maybe and cant show pics" is of any value.

and lol dont listen to anyone whos yet to do a cycle.
man,lol, drop the pct, and run that for the whole year,no kidding

10weeks is too little to even kick in truly for the 2 compounds,esp deca.

all year.youre not risking your health with this.its a mild perfetly sane cycle.run it for a year and see where you get.that way you musntnt concern yourself with what next,you know what you do the next 52 weeks.

perfect doses, good choices.


Thanks brother for your reply

You are right yes. there are so many people screaming on the internet, like parrots i think also Cheesy
You know. i mentioned earlier Big Cat (Biochemist and AAS Guru) always says TestE 500 mg is quite mild and is the reference for future use, but for me it sounds also too much because i dont know how my body will respond to the steroids...

Only one question Gal: you said 52 weeks with this cycle? Do you not think my recovery (and maybe deca dick?) will be very very hard after one year?
For me Blast en Cruise is not an option. so it means going on and off...

Thanks again friend




12  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: February 21, 2014, 11:42:11 AM
@Galeniko: I need your advise for the following please.

I schedule the following"

1 cycle:

10 weeks

TestE 300 mg
Deca 125  (The little deca i want to use because for my schpulder pain/injury or atrose)

Good doses? and no healthy issues?

PCT: w 13/14 14 days Clomid 50 mg per day
HCG w1-10 2X250 IU

What do you think?

Thanks in advance

13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Can You Grow On 250mgs of Test/wk On A First Cycle??? on: February 21, 2014, 11:37:21 AM
best to have to only as much as needed approach.

instead of as much as possible.

and setting a realistic goal upfront.

however i pity a bit the fools who believe in being on and off, blssting then going off, and wishing to build a seriosu physique.

this is something one can do when they have their mass goals met.or when you dont feel like training for few months, or bc health reasons, thats when you go off.

chose the peds wisely, dont shot up the liver for bit bloat, the liver regulated the whole food metabolism.

hair, well, atleast with bit test youre as safe as can be, if it falls out then, would anyway, and can fix with transplant.

then, is limp dick worth having in this quest.so many questions.

health?matter of fact is most ppl on pharmacy test 500mg weekly will have bloodpressure issues from even slightest too much or wrong foods.

then i see here, tren for first cycle.why not.yeah right, why not drink ones own piss along with with that.

i see further, start at 500mgs test, for first cycle.oh brother, why not start on a gramm.

heres me whos hasnt gone over 300weekly in 10years, outsizing many of the megadosers, so there must be more to it than just gear.

many who try to override genetic response with extra gear will never be heard of in the gym again, the result wil be disapoint, bit more acne on the shoulders, bit more bloof under the skin,and bit more dependency for even higher doses, as the lower ones will now do fuck all anymore.

remember, 500mg test is the swet spot where health issues come along.yes bloat is already a health issue.no sane mind would consider that to be normal,would they Cheesy


Hey Galeniko,

You sounds very wise to me. i always appreciate your comments very much Wink

How do you know this everything? many years experience?
14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: anxiety on 4g test and 2g deca in one day is brutal! on: February 13, 2014, 10:17:06 AM
depends on what his goal is... how he wants to look.

I don't think it's insane, but I think the upper-limit for tren is in the 1400 range, but everybody's different. personally, at the dose of tren, I think the eq is pointless, unless he's using it for sex-drive. but, everybody's different. I've been tempted to do something similar lately, just to give eq another try. probably at 1g test, 2g eq and 2100 tren (300/day).

of course, I'd probably try it with eq acetate though. instead of conventional eq undeconate/undecylenate(think I spelled that wrong. lol)


Hmm for it is not so much i think hehehehe Grin

I miss the orals!?

How long will be the cycle? 30 weeks? Roll Eyes
15  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: anxiety on 4g test and 2g deca in one day is brutal! on: February 13, 2014, 10:08:00 AM
depends on what his goal is... how he wants to look.

I don't think it's insane, but I think the upper-limit for tren is in the 1400 range, but everybody's different. personally, at the dose of tren, I think the eq is pointless, unless he's using it for sex-drive. but, everybody's different. I've been tempted to do something similar lately, just to give eq another try. probably at 1g test, 2g eq and 2100 tren (300/day).

of course, I'd probably try it with eq acetate though. instead of conventional eq undeconate/undecylenate(think I spelled that wrong. lol)

He wants to use it for his own, so no contest ambitions.

Thanks for your reply
2 gr Equipose Shocked your blood will be thick as oil Shocked Undecided
16  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: anxiety on 4g test and 2g deca in one day is brutal! on: February 12, 2014, 12:00:42 PM
@ESF

A friend of mine is doing the following combo

1000 mgr Test
2000 mgr Tren
1000 mg Equipose

2000 mg Tren what do you think? insane?
17  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: First Cycle Recommendation For An Older Lifter/Long Term Plans??? on: February 11, 2014, 10:57:04 AM
@Galeniko
W hat should be your choise combining  with Test 250 for 10 weeks ?
Your honest  opinion please
Primobolan 200mg or Equipose 200 with frontload 400

Stats
183 cm
Age 42
BF 18%
Weight 98 KG
Afraid for hairloss

Thanks in advance!!!!!

I am still natty
Or do you prefer Test 500 mg what also suggest a lot of people
18  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: anxiety on 4g test and 2g deca in one day is brutal! on: February 11, 2014, 05:14:29 AM
nobody uses as much stuff as I have for as long as I have without knowing proper technique. lol... nevermind the nurses and PA's I've dated

Are you not Dorian Yates maybe? Grin
19  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Seriously..fuck on: February 07, 2014, 03:40:16 AM
I've been using this program for years & it's not only stopped my hairloss, but I've grown a little.

Nizoral daily
Minoxidil 5% foam twice daily
1mg Avodart a day
1/4 tab femera 3 days a week

You want to reduce DHT AND estrogen. Estrogen is also a major cause of hairloss but is rarely addressed.




Dutasteride and finasteride are both anti androgenic.
A lot of people say that these medicins cause a lot of problems in the human body.
You are taking AAS but you take something against AAS (anti androgenic) a little strange heh
20  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: First Cycle Recommendation For An Older Lifter/Long Term Plans??? on: February 06, 2014, 02:08:15 AM
nobody needs a guru its good enough to read the gear packaging and see if theres scientific studies,all else is individual.

hes wronf on the dhb.

that said test is certainly not as har don hair as primobolan.

dont listen to that "guru" jesus sake, have you got that from him that dhts are anti estrogens?

learn to think for yourself,here:

During testosterone administration, total and free E2 levels increased dose-dependently (dose effect, P<0.001) in both young and older men. Total and free E2 levels and E2:T ratios during T administration were higher in older than young men, but age-related differences in free E2 and free E2:T ratios were not significant after adjusting for testosterone levels, percentage fat mass, and SHBG. DHT levels and DHT:T ratios were dose-related but did not differ between young and older men. Mechanistic modeling of free hormone data revealed that the conversions of T to E2 and DHT were both consistent with saturable Michaelis-Menten kinetics. The in vivo Km values were estimated to be 1.83 nm for aromatase and 3.35 nm for 5alpha-reductase, independent of age. The Vmax parameter for E2 was 40% higher in older men than younger men, but Vmax for DHT was not significantly different between age groups.
CONCLUSIONS:
During im testosterone administration, E2 and DHT levels exhibit saturable increases with dose. The rate of whole body aromatization is higher in older men, partly related to their higher percentage fat mass, SHBG, and testosterone levels.

read especialy the conclusion, this is what i always been saying(and i dont feel smart about it,everyone who been shredded will know, if youre fat,youre an estrogenic mess if you inject steroids).

here about shut down and dht

The administration of exogenous testosterone (T) to eugonadal men causes suppression of gonadotropin secretion and thus of spermatogenesis. This is currently being investigated as a possible method of hormonal male contraceptive, but complete suppression of spermatogenesis to azoospermia is induced in only 50-70% of Caucasian men; the remainder maintain a low rate of spermatogenesis. The basis for this polymorphism in response is unclear. The enzyme 5 alpha-reductase (5 alpha R) converts T to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and is important in determining the magnitude of the androgen stimulus in some tissues. We investigated whether the maintenance of spermatogenesis in men remaining oligozoospermic while receiving suppressive doses of T is associated with evidence of increased 5 alpha R activity. Thirty-three normal men were given 200 mg T enanthate (TE), im, weekly in a clinical trial of hormonal male contraception. The MCR of T (MCRT) and the conversion ratio of T to DHT (CRT-DHT) were measured by infusion of [3H]T, plasma levels of DHT and androstanediol glucuronide (AdiolG) were measured by RIA, and 24-h urinary steroid metabolites were measured by capillary column gas chromatography. Sperm density decreased in all men; 18 achieved azoospermia by 20 weeks of treatment, and the remainder had a mean sperm density of 2.0 +/- 0.8 x 10(5)/mL at that time. This treatment caused increases in plasma T levels and MCRT, but with no differences between azoospermic and oligozoospermic responders. There were no differences in CRT-DHT plasma DHT, or AdiolG before treatment, but after 16 weeks, CRT-DHT had increased in the oligozoospermic responders, but not in the azoospermic responders. TE treatment increased plasma DHT and AdiolG levels in both groups, but the increases in both 5 alpha R metabolites were significantly greater in the oligozoospermic responders. Urinary excretion of etiocholanolone and androsterone was increased after 16 weeks of TE treatment, but did not differ between the two groups, andetiocholanolone/androsterone ratios did not differ greatly from unity. There was no change in urinary excretion of tetrahydrocortisol, allo-tetrahydrocortisol, or cortisone after 16 weeks of TE treatment in either group. These results suggest that after TE administration there is a selective increase in 5 alpha R activity in those men who remain oligozoospermic, but not in those becoming azoospermic. This difference in the androgenic milieu may underlie the incomplete suppression in the oligozoospermic responders, in whom a low rate of spermatogenesis is maintained despite the apparent absence of gonadotropins.


thanks, see i dont feel like a teacher.


do not listen to gurus for fuck sake!!!

read scientific studies,think for yourselves.

in lay,an terms,injecting a dht derivate will always be much harsher on the hair than test.

im not a guru i only talk when i know i read about scientific studies on the matter.

they are also very interesting to read, just not as dramaticaly presented as the fraudulent bullshitters gurus do.

if one says dhts are anti estorgens and primo is not a dht, they dont know what they talking about.


My question remains: will 250 mg test also surpress the hpta axis at same level then 500 mg test for a period of 10 weeks?
Sorry maybe for my dumbness
21  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: First Cycle Recommendation For An Older Lifter/Long Term Plans??? on: February 06, 2014, 02:05:45 AM
yes its the androgen receptors that will kill the hairline, but the androgen reeptors have much higher affinity to dht than to test.

so it def makes a difference whether one chooses test or masteron.

in theory,low dose deca and eq seem safest.

tren can be hit or miss.

test is ok-isch low dose(in other words if one loses hair on low dose test, his hair is soon doomed anyway)

and then comes the array of "dryness" peds, they all terrible on the hair.




Thanks thats clear! Grin Wink
22  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: First Cycle Recommendation For An Older Lifter/Long Term Plans??? on: February 06, 2014, 02:02:16 AM
nobody needs a guru its good enough to read the gear packaging and see if theres scientific studies,all else is individual.

hes wronf on the dhb.

that said test is certainly not as har don hair as primobolan.

dont listen to that "guru" jesus sake, have you got that from him that dhts are anti estrogens?

learn to think for yourself,here:

During testosterone administration, total and free E2 levels increased dose-dependently (dose effect, P<0.001) in both young and older men. Total and free E2 levels and E2:T ratios during T administration were higher in older than young men, but age-related differences in free E2 and free E2:T ratios were not significant after adjusting for testosterone levels, percentage fat mass, and SHBG. DHT levels and DHT:T ratios were dose-related but did not differ between young and older men. Mechanistic modeling of free hormone data revealed that the conversions of T to E2 and DHT were both consistent with saturable Michaelis-Menten kinetics. The in vivo Km values were estimated to be 1.83 nm for aromatase and 3.35 nm for 5alpha-reductase, independent of age. The Vmax parameter for E2 was 40% higher in older men than younger men, but Vmax for DHT was not significantly different between age groups.
CONCLUSIONS:
During im testosterone administration, E2 and DHT levels exhibit saturable increases with dose. The rate of whole body aromatization is higher in older men, partly related to their higher percentage fat mass, SHBG, and testosterone levels.

read especialy the conclusion, this is what i always been saying(and i dont feel smart about it,everyone who been shredded will know, if youre fat,youre an estrogenic mess if you inject steroids).

here about shut down and dht

The administration of exogenous testosterone (T) to eugonadal men causes suppression of gonadotropin secretion and thus of spermatogenesis. This is currently being investigated as a possible method of hormonal male contraceptive, but complete suppression of spermatogenesis to azoospermia is induced in only 50-70% of Caucasian men; the remainder maintain a low rate of spermatogenesis. The basis for this polymorphism in response is unclear. The enzyme 5 alpha-reductase (5 alpha R) converts T to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and is important in determining the magnitude of the androgen stimulus in some tissues. We investigated whether the maintenance of spermatogenesis in men remaining oligozoospermic while receiving suppressive doses of T is associated with evidence of increased 5 alpha R activity. Thirty-three normal men were given 200 mg T enanthate (TE), im, weekly in a clinical trial of hormonal male contraception. The MCR of T (MCRT) and the conversion ratio of T to DHT (CRT-DHT) were measured by infusion of [3H]T, plasma levels of DHT and androstanediol glucuronide (AdiolG) were measured by RIA, and 24-h urinary steroid metabolites were measured by capillary column gas chromatography. Sperm density decreased in all men; 18 achieved azoospermia by 20 weeks of treatment, and the remainder had a mean sperm density of 2.0 +/- 0.8 x 10(5)/mL at that time. This treatment caused increases in plasma T levels and MCRT, but with no differences between azoospermic and oligozoospermic responders. There were no differences in CRT-DHT plasma DHT, or AdiolG before treatment, but after 16 weeks, CRT-DHT had increased in the oligozoospermic responders, but not in the azoospermic responders. TE treatment increased plasma DHT and AdiolG levels in both groups, but the increases in both 5 alpha R metabolites were significantly greater in the oligozoospermic responders. Urinary excretion of etiocholanolone and androsterone was increased after 16 weeks of TE treatment, but did not differ between the two groups, andetiocholanolone/androsterone ratios did not differ greatly from unity. There was no change in urinary excretion of tetrahydrocortisol, allo-tetrahydrocortisol, or cortisone after 16 weeks of TE treatment in either group. These results suggest that after TE administration there is a selective increase in 5 alpha R activity in those men who remain oligozoospermic, but not in those becoming azoospermic. This difference in the androgenic milieu may underlie the incomplete suppression in the oligozoospermic responders, in whom a low rate of spermatogenesis is maintained despite the apparent absence of gonadotropins.


thanks, see i dont feel like a teacher.


do not listen to gurus for fuck sake!!!

read scientific studies,think for yourselves.

in lay,an terms,injecting a dht derivate will always be much harsher on the hair than test.

im not a guru i only talk when i know i read about scientific studies on the matter.

they are also very interesting to read, just not as dramaticaly presented as the fraudulent bullshitters gurus do.

if one says dhts are anti estorgens and primo is not a dht, they dont know what they talking about.


Thanks bro for your explanation and effort!
But now in easy language?

No Big Cat didnt say dht are anti estrogen.

But i thought because he has an academic level in biochemistry/celbiology and has personal experiences and helped also pro BB..then ik thought he will be very smart with AAS.
23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Ok I know I've been messing around alot....but finally decided. on: February 05, 2014, 10:41:43 AM
My first ever cycle ok or not?


Ok here goes..

4IU Genotropin Script GH Daily
250 mg Test Prop Weekly
250 mg Deca Durabolin Weekly

Arimidex 1 tab EOD
Metformin 3 x 500 tabs daily (for blood sugar issues)
Finasteride 1mg daily

+ ECA stack for fat burn.


Unless anyone tells me anything radically different that what I propose to do, I got everything apart from the Deca which I will get this week.

Yes or Nay?

Ibizia here I come.

BOOM!


How may weeks your cycle will be?
24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: could i theoretically gain arm size on 250mg on: February 05, 2014, 10:29:31 AM
hey friend


i remember you did the same i was doing

up to 700 test or so with finasteride


did you keep your hair?


or did you not have hair problems in the first place?


thanks


I didnt do that.

In 4 months i start my first cycle with RU anti dht topical but without finasteride.

TestE 250 with Primo 200

or

Test 250+ Deca 200

or Test E 500 mg

I am still doubing a little
25  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: First Cycle Recommendation For An Older Lifter/Long Term Plans??? on: February 05, 2014, 10:21:46 AM
haha that well knows scientist cant be trusted.

i know what is dhb, and primo isnt a dhb.

even if it was, the effect on hair would be about the same.

more on this later gtg

Have you heard from Big Cat? he has a worldwide name as AAS guru
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