NJ, I bet you that he'll switch over to PHYSIQUE if and when he starts placing lower than he expects within the BB comps.

This could be another great reason why the PHYSIQUE DIVISION was established.

When competitor fail to do well in the BB comps, they simply roll over into the Physique comps.

That's great for those who enjoy competing and also great for the NPC.

This Physique Division  was a very wise decision!

fuck anabolchalo you really now blew the hell up


oh,recentpics?

I don't fully u comprehend your last post but I think that within the next few years ..... there will be  more of a commercial demand of Physique competitors because the physique "physique" will be more accptable to the general public and even to the magazines and supplement companies for sales and advertising purposes.

This will be a gradual change but I'm almost positive it will happen.

And I' gotta add the following to sum this up .....

Hollywood is always looking for new faces and new bodies and new personalities for movies and TV work .... but for some reason they have yet to discover the ladies who compete in these Fitness events nor the guys who compete in the physique events.

But it's gonna happen ..... if it's not happening already.

I'd even go as far as to suggest that the better looking ones look into the possibility of getting a Hollywood agent. A tuff nut to crack but not impossible if you are a good self-promoter.

Steve they would not touch your pics. what can they say you are in shape ALL YEAR ROUND. I do not understand why Karen and Jay get picked on by a few idiots on here. Ignore them. Some great Posters on getbig and i only pm with them and the time wasters i just tell them to F*ck off...simple as that. I say who i am on here ..no secrets. I am a man of values and i respect this in other People. I am not a big muscle man and never have said i was but am in good shape for my Age. I am not out to prove i´m better than anyone else. I know i get respect from Young guys when i Train them, nothing to do with my Looks but my Approach to them. when i was a Young guy i would not think twice about punching someone in the teeth but as a mature man you learn how to take Young cocky brats... believe me i have had Young guys mouth off like some on here and as a Young man i never thought about it i just whacked them and not just once. I have done  Military,boxing,martial arts,security Close protection,
now i like my peace Training People. Some on getbig Need to learn respect......

Some of us are privileged and some are not, I guess. I think my photos have been photoshopped too. It's idiotic and childish, but then some of the posters on Getbig are idiot children of the worst kind. I am not sure Steve has ever shown his face in photos he posted on Getbig.

i'm not sure, but it's a dumb word which is actually synonymous with the term "sophistry", which has been around for thousands of years.  sophistry means convincing, but flawed, reasoning.  in ancient greece, sophists were basically smooth-talking teachers who would "educate" people for a fee, using very convincing arguments while arriving, nevertheless, at incorrect conclusions.

sophistry is far from unique to the greeks, though.  it's practiced everywhere, especially in relatively unscientific circles -- like the bodybuilding community.

the anti- or unscientific method:  start from your conclusion (or model), and mold your observations so that they fit your conclusion.

the scientific method:  admit you're only guessing, go out and exhaustively record observations in a systematic way ("experiment"), and then adjust your guess to arrive at a conclusion (or model) that explains all of your observations.

science = look first, conclude second.
pseudoscience = conclude first, look second.

naturally, science is hard and takes a lot of work.  sophistry, broscience, or whatever you want to call it, is much easier: all you have to do is believe something is true, and then start explaining everything in terms of your conclusion.

for example, someone comes up with a method, say, like galeniko and no ones.  the scientific way of proceeding about things would then be to design an experiment and conduct countless trials with as many people as possible, then record and analyze the results, and finally see if they match the expected outcome.  if they dont, the method needs to be adjusted.

the "broscience" way is: claim you've found the ultimate fat loss method, tell everyone to go try it, and then, when people report back, if the results aren't what you expected (i.e. resounding success) tell them they screwed up, they are wrong, or invent some other excuse which allows you to continue on believing in your method.

the first way -- the scientific one -- is practically unheard of in the fitness community.  the second one is, as im sure you've all noticed, ubiquitous.

THANKS, NJ: I guess the big questions are:

1. Why is it called MEN'S PHYSIQUE and not MEN'S CLASSICAL BODYBUILDING?

2. Why the long board shorts rather than the 3/4 leg shorts?

I have a feeling that the above decisions were made in an effort to create and show a difference between boybuilding and physique.

And this could be justified by saying that today's 'classical contests' would only evolve into today's bodybuilding .... So let's create a difference now  ...... before it gets too late ...... (Or something like that!)

Once again I gotta state that a lot of thought goes into the making of decisions such as this and there are almost always "valid reasons" for doing so.

Interesting comments from Grant, Tim Fogerty, an One More Rep regarding Men’s Physique competitions.

I think that each of them have offered valid points but if I had to take a stand, I would tend to agree with Tim and OMR a bit more than agreeing with Grant,

It’s difficult to ‘pinpoint’ whose opinion is the most correct due to the fact that Men’s Physique is so darn new and is still ‘finding its way’ (so to speak).

The big question among the physique competitors is , “When is too much muscle, too much muscle to b e ranked higher in a physique event?”

At a recent contest in California one physique contestant resembled a very impressive, but lean competitive bodybuilder who most people felt should have entered the bodybuiling contest instead of the physique event..

He did not get a top ten call-out which was not much of a surprise due to the fact that he apparently too muscular to be place well as a physique competitor,

CONFUSING??!

Definitely!!!  And I think the reason for that is because there is a very fine line between a great physique competitor  and an amateur bodybuilders who wins his class as a result of being lean and ripped.

For many amateur competitors …. It’s a difficult task to make the right decision …. “Should I enter the bodybuilding ocnestt or shoul I enter the physique event?”

And so far in most contests you have to choose one or the other, but not both.

In my opinion the present physique winners appear to be what the judges were looking for back in the 60 and eatly 70  amateur bodybuilding contests.

And I think the term “Classic Bodybuilding” would have been a more descriptive term for Men’s Physique contests.

BUT ….. Whrn it comes to making decisions about what to call a new event and even more decisions on how to judge that new event …… Those decisions are made by a group of individuals after long discussions (and often heated arguments) and there are usually damn good reason why those decisions are made and regimented.

And to end this …. I also believe that this relatively  new event will  become more popular with the general public and the competitors as well … more so than the bodybuilding events.

And it’s possible that the ‘uniform’ could be changed.

Thanks for listening…..  STUNT

Tuesday - hams and calves

Weight 209

Forgot to bring the written routine with me - had to wing it.

Lying leg curls, 4X15-8 @ 60-90 lbs.
Standing calf raises, 5X15 @ 200-300
Seated leg curls, 4X15-10 @70-100
Leg press calf raises, 4X15-10 @ 235-310
Reverse hack squats, 4X20-10 @ 90-360
Seated calf raises, 3X15-8 @ 90-135
Hip abduction, 3X20-15 @ 90-110
Hip adduction, 3X20-15 @ 110-130

Knee feels good....didn't call the doctor yet, maybe tomorrow.

Had a lot of energy today. Shortened up some rest times and got through the routine pretty quickly. The hack squats leave me a little out of breath, so I still took my time with these.

There seems to be an epidemic of people I know passing away lately. I just got word that a good friend of mine succumbed to cancer last night. She had throat cancer. I thought she was in remission, but I guess it must have returned. She and I spent a lot of time in Washington D.C. lobbying our congressmen and women. We even had lunch in the Senate dining room with one of the Senators from Oregon, which was quite an honor. We always spoke of it when we would get together. I will miss her a lot.

Think I have adrenal fatigue, so I'm not sure if the current diet is helping things (I take fish oils but think a healthier fat intake assists in recovery). I don't really drink coffee, I only used ECA for a week and felt fine coming off it, I've been on tren for the first time since March.

I have most symptoms listed here http://www.naturalnews.com/024985_cortisol_blood_fatigue.html

I'll try keep to the diet as much as possible but with the added recovery foods, going to get bloods to confirm but I'm 99% sure - reckon I should stay on 150-250mg test or come OFF everything?  

listen bro dont get all upset cause i said your post was full of broscience. why are you so defensive? do you see me getting defensive about what you just wrote? no. its your opinion. i might agree or disagree but i dont see anything wrong with it.

but when you talk broscience and try to relate it to this method im going to point it out. simple as that., get offended all day long if you want. it is what it is. cheers.

He had a hand in killing the tyrant emperor. A true hero.

galeniko, this guy wants you to grace him with your club moves

Scott, Do you recall the year when Ralph ha that LAKESIDE GYM? His gym along the Pacific Coast Highway was a small stand-alone building with the beach directly  behind it somewhere in the vicinity of the race-track south of Oceanside.

I have a feeling it was  just before he moved to Hilo, Hawaii and opened a small place there.

this coming from american obese fatso who has daily re drug habbit, the irony is strong there.
its not just not needed, its really secondary if anything.in somecases its obsolete, as in,too much.


yes, i at firsthtought ok ppljust dont know exactly how to diet, but i realize they most likely dont even know how to train.
yet "study" about cycles,haha.

if someone diet is 90% ok, on some gear and training good enough, they will look brutal.

if not,they will look like shit.

they laugh about personal trainers(rightfully so),but theyre just as ignorant.

get up to 250 lbs and ditch the twink status

I'm sure he's heartbroken over what a bunch of dudes on a bodybuilding forum think of him.