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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Coach Joe is going to share with getbig what a real PRO stack looks like on: April 19, 2014, 04:37:17 AM
I never troll, it's not my style. I may joke a little here and there but then it's obvious. I leave the trolling to guys like you and Alex etc.

The reason I mentioned the painkillers is to make the point that all powerlifters work through aches and pains, something always hurts. My training partner
has taken diklofenac, an NSAID, every day for 10 years straight. He simply can't function without it. He does use codeine (with APAP), about 60mg which is a small dose, 3 or 4 days per week because his shoulder is so bad the pain would be too much without it.

The painkillers have nothing to do with the inability to recover instantaneously after hitting a PR (after training for 30 years every PR in the main powerlifts is a huge thing, sometimes it has taken a few years of brutal training to even add 10lbs to a lift).

Coach said something about painkillers braking down the CNS. I really want to hear this, never heard of such (quite possible I missed something with my google-fu). Sort of an aside, but I read that the old Russian weightlifting manuals mentioned they added small amounts of opiates as a recovery tool during the most taxing training periods. Coach mentions Westside powerlifters quite often, maybe he should ask around how many of those guys live on painkillers LOL. Some of these guys can't even lift their arm to drink a coffee, have to walk backwards down a flight of stairs, take a hot bath in the morning to even get out of the house LOL

I just came back from the gym, my friend missed his deadlift attempt. In his words, "That squat single on monday took too much out of me, I'm too beat up, I knew I should've taken an easy deadlift recovery session today and attempted next friday instead". This guy ain't no newbie or pussy, he has an IPF World's Gold medal in the deadlift.

If you get to the point where you become opiate tolerant you can train very hard pretty much everyday. I wouldn"t recommend it because once you become opiate tolerant it is a bitch to get off the pills. I am sure evrybody knows that. Opiates numb out alot of pain once you become tolerant and can actually train while on them.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: The most dominant Mr. Olympia of all time - hands down!! on: April 18, 2014, 05:43:09 AM
All Mr.O's are great and have some crazy bodyparts. I would say if your judging by size Ronnie hands down was the best. Lb for LB I don"t know. Remember some of the guys in the 70's and early 80's were not doing HGH/Insulin protocols. They did get all Human grade AAS but that on top of insulin/HGH protocols is going to take somebodys physique to a diffrent level plus the guys in the later Era were using 4 times as much AAS plus exotics. Samir bannout had some freaky ass trcipes and just was grainy as hell so LB for lb it's a toss up.

I gotta say coming in-shape wat 300lb's with shredded ass cheeks is impressive. Dorian had a pretty thick/freaky back with crazy thick lats but he looked awful from the front a few years he won the Mr.O  , hell he won with a horribly torn bicep and other torn muscles ,dorian looked horrible from the front that year and a few others
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 18, 2014, 04:40:48 AM
Yes I believe that and there are guys 7-8% but I have a hard time believing 4-5% which is stage conditioning just about, most guys I would say around maybe 4??

Regardless of ethicnity and how good the genetics 4-5% natural without much training or dieting is impossible , 7-8 maybe believable

I am pretty good at estimating BF%. I take my words back maybe not 4% but 5%-6% definately! Like I said he already had a christmas tree clearly visible. His skin is real tight everywhere I couldn't see any visible flaws. waist was def 29IN. He wears a 29In waist jeans so maybe 28-29IN waist. There is one guy I know who also works out there who is white and he is 5% and this black guy looks just as lean maybe a tad leaner and this other white guy is training way harder, has way better nutrition IQ, his overall bodybuilding IQ is super high, he competes in natural shows, so that is where I am getting 4-6% BF by comparing him to somebody who is 5% right now. To the white guy it's his whole life and more,to the black guy just trains for fun and to look good for women.

The black guy has way more fun when he trains, jokes around takes long rests between sets(not super long-but not HIT 15-130 second rests) the white guy looks like all business,no fun and trains super intense and maybe takes 20 second rests between sets.

Like I said I know guys who would be Pro bodybuilders if they had those genetics on the fact they have super high Bodybuilding IQ and work harder. If that white guy was the black guy he might be a top pro.
4  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Stacking Primordial with Ostarine? on: April 18, 2014, 03:30:53 AM
I think the most hard to get oral steroids are

Real Mibolerone.
Real-Bolasterone.

never heard of Denkadoil sounds like a name of one of  denkalls Test injects. I know it's not but what is the profile on it? how anabolic/how androgenic?
same with androil.never heard of it whats that look like on paper.

I have heard of all the supps listed like
Halodrol
Max-LMG and Methyl 1-4ADD

all of them work. The Erogomax LMG blew awayb the regular Max LMG. Ergomax LMG was made by Author L Reas supplement company ALRI , ergomax were 10mg capsules of DMT(desoxy Methyl Testosterone) it was great stuff. There was only one batch of it ever sold by ALRI then they got heat on that product on brought out ALRI-Max LMG(lean mass generator) not as great as Ergomax LMg but still works somewhat.

Methyl-1 -4 ADD I never tried but I heard it was a great strength drug similar to Dbol.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 18, 2014, 03:21:01 AM
Not this shit again  Undecided

Everyone always know a guy who knows a guy who barely lifts and happens to be "African American" why don't u just say black  Roll Eyes that has insane genetics and sits at 4-5% all natural

All Horse shit!

I think everybody does know somebody who has crazy genetics but dosn"t know much about training or diet.  I am sure he has been training on and off for years but consistent training maybe just a few months yes he is black whatever. He has a insane build for a natural. He would def get blown away by any juicer but he could def do a natural show and it would only take him maybe 4-6 weeks to get in peak condition. I bet he would win. If there was alot of money in bodybuilding I would stake this guy for 10% of his winnings. I have that much faith in the guy.

He wouldn"t even be able to name a Anabolic steroid. He dosn't know shit about supplements either, nutrition knowledge is non-existent. Just crazy ass genetics and he lifts pretty heavy for a natural. I have seen this before same deal black guy crazy ass genetics but knew jack shit about nutrition,supplements or really even how to train right. just trained same bodyparts almost every workout. But still was strong on every lift and just built muscle insanely fast. This guy I saw the other night is even better way small waistline and his lats start real low so he has insane back potential. He already had a christmas tree lower lumbar. 28 In waist. just genetic freak.

There are tons of guys who could be bodybuilders but they just are not into training as much and know shit about diet and training. there are other guys out there like Phil Heath you just have to convince these guys to get into bodybuilding alot of these great unknown talents play other sports and have no clue about pro bodybuilding or the NPC. Somewhere their is another potential Mr. Olympia who plays football or basketball just like Phil did.

It sucks because the guys who have the drive and the knowledge are usually the guys who don"t have the genetics,they train hard as fuck and diet like nutts but still will never have the potential as some of these other freaks out there.
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 17, 2014, 06:03:00 AM
How can you look at his cycle and then look at his physique and say, yeah, nothing out of order here?  That's a serious competitor's cycle


because those are some serious forarms!
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: "Pro Secrets" to Oral Steroid Use on: April 17, 2014, 06:01:49 AM
Take your orals with a handful of salt.



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and 100% grapefruit juice
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: "Pro Secrets" to Oral Steroid Use on: April 17, 2014, 05:29:17 AM
Not all, but some, yes. Try running high dose tren for a couple of months, for example, and see how your mental state fairs.

This is what fucked me. I got fucked due to insomnia. I smoked weed for years to deal with the Insomnia and anxiety then I started taking valium to sleep and then progressed to xanax,then I started taking opiate based painkillers to numb out pain. When I got hit by that drunk bitch I already had a minor drug problem but that gave me a excuse to get my own prescriptions and then from their got real bad. 6 years later still on xanax daily and either (oxycodone Instant release) or subutex. I try to stay on the subutex but don"t get enough of it.
I get plenty of Oxy IR but get a very limited amount of subutex wich is way healthier alternative to opiate meds.

I think it is safe to blame steroids. The cycles that had Tren and Halo gave me Insomnia and anxiety no way to sleep without some kind of Benzodiazapam (human tranquilizer).
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Are kids today dumb as shit, or is it just my imagination? on: April 17, 2014, 05:19:10 AM
Almost every kid (of peace) today, is stuck in their Iphone (of peace).

The kids today are very different now from how we were in the 70s (of peace).

Generally, thanks to growing up with access to things such as internet and a truckload of tv-channels/media/accessibility to wikipedia and similar, they generally learn english (usually american english and not british) much quicker and earlier, but they lack the older morals and the family-values in which we used to rely.

Easy access to media and Internets is both a boon and a curse, since kids are very easily influenced if not raised in a hardcore temple gym-environ. (of peace / no homo)





I agree,fucked up technology(social media) era. better to have been born in the 80's or prior.
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 17, 2014, 05:17:52 AM
You got banned for that? Oh, it was his dealer that banned you?!

Probably. Gh15 gets payed by all the dealers to list their shit oils so they def want to pump it into young mens heads that more is better and they post crazy cycles and say you have to follow those protocols if you want to look like a bodybuilder. I have seen better natural bodybuilders then this guy. WAY better natural bodybuilders.I just so the craziest natural bodybuilder at my gym.

african american guy I knew from back in the day,had not seen him in years. back then he didn"t really lift weights. He just started lifting a few months ago and he looks like he is about to step on stage and he has no nutrition knowledge uses no supplements,no diet knowledge at all, or even a very good training IQ,just the craziest fucking genetics! he is fucking strong too. Dude has a 29 In waist, walks around at 4-5 -BF% and has a nice christmas tree in his lower lumbar also has nice low lat development. I am trying to convince him to compete as a natural. He could step on-stage in a month and blow away alot of naturals especially locally.
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 17, 2014, 05:08:55 AM
your probably right. His muscles do look odd as hell

Look at his forarms. That gives it all away! major synthol user. Those shoulders are loaded with sterile oil. def very odd looking . The flow of somebodys forarms are where you should look.
Look at Phil Heath,Phil has massive forarms wich give his arms that great flow even if phil does have some synthol in his shoulders nobody can really tell because his forarms match up.
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 16, 2014, 04:22:51 AM
About prices...

Upsher smith oxandralone comes 3 bottles 60 count 10mg per rx. Its prescribed for aids wasting. People with an rx for it sell it for like $300-500/3 bottles if you're in "the scene".

Same with tested and androxy...drug addicts get prescribed these for wasting and endocrinological issues.

Most guys have the same doctor/doctors who know they just resell their stuff for meth but the docs get kickbacks for writing the drugs so everyone wins.

Biggest cost here is the humatrope...which is why it's being run 6iu/day. humatrope isn't prescribed for wasting, so it's method of black market diversion is a lot costlier than seros.


You would have to really be in with a certain group of drug addict aids patients! and I bet all the bodybuilders fight for who will get who's prescription. I don;t see how a insurance would pay for those expensive drugs. So your saying they get prescribed 180x 10mg oxandrolone tabs that would cost a fortune even with insurance. Guys with HIV have state run insurance that are not that great. Who told you they were that great? in my state they wouldn"t cover oxandrolone.I did a price check a few months ago at walgreens and for the watson oxandrolone they wanted close to 800$ for just 60x 10mg tabs. they didn"t even regularly stock them something they would have to order for a customer.

I'm not saying it is not true but very unlikely in most states. You don;t get special insurance if you have HIV in my state,you get state insurance unless you have a job with good insurance. It seems like a HIV drug addict would not know what the fuck HGH or oxandrolone was unless a bodybuilder sent them into the doctor and told them to ask for it that might work. Most HIv patients have no idea about AAS and HGH unless some bodybuilder guides them and offers them cash. Hell if their drug addicts I bet they would sell the pills and Test for cheaper if they were desperate. Most HIV patients are unemployed and living on dissability and get cheap state insurance I just don't see them paying for thousands of dollars worth of drugs. Hell guys who are vets and go to the VA get awful treatment as well. They get prescribed the cheapest shit possible.
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Jason Genova is bringing back true aesthetics to bodybuilding on: April 16, 2014, 04:00:43 AM
dude has been looking the same forever now! I don"t really see any diffrences. I know he went off his steroids so he probably is struggling badly. No way he can improve after coming off cycle not for a long while. Dudes live is already fucked up. He's gonna have a hard time getting anywhere. No way he can dial it in to get in contest shape.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 04:26:49 AM
I would say BFG is doing well financially

Eriods??

How do you know for sure?
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 03:23:44 AM
I never believe most of the shit you post............because it`s not true.

You sound like a White Widow gimmick.

I have no gimmick account. When have I ever posted a pro caliber cycle? why would I need a gimmick account? I always say whatever I want.
16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 03:20:24 AM
Ah ok, K only tried that once, basically just felt like a tranquilized cat, E plenty times but then all I will want to do is find the nearest rave and skip my meals lol

No shit. me too. I love ecstasy but it keeps you up too long and I would go to a wharehouse party on fridays and by monday still not feel 100% and like training.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 03:09:00 AM
You just ruined this thread with your childish games and insecurity. The whole board agrees.

I have to agree this thread got all fucked up!. jesus christ! I agree on posting on private boards but getbig is home. he is entitled to a opinion but for fucks sake this got out of hand. he gives a shit who gives out free advice. I know a top guru who is pretty well named now who helped guys out for free for years. he didn"t dig into his pockets but he did help serious guys who could go pro prep. Now he gets paid but is still very helpful to serious athletes. I don;t think Gurus get paid that much. It's like a managers fee maybe 10% of cash winnings only if they place with a cash prize. Some have flat rates. There are alot of guys who are capable of prepping top amateurs and they do it for nothing. They have other avenues of income like a 9-5 job.
18  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 03:00:00 AM
Youre absolutely right about that. Who would want to be a nearing 50 year old no one with no wife, no kids, no future. You've admitted to living in squalor like a bush pig. Youre a sad pathetic no one. Honestly, i feel sorry for you.

I don"t want a wife or kids what's wrong with that? It's his life. kids are not for some people! and women can be great to have around at times but marriage is a HUGE commitment.Not alot of bodybuilders get married. their choice
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid/Insulin/GH/etc stack for Orlando Europa 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 02:55:22 AM
martin kjellstr÷m was sponsored by a ug lab AND sold their stuff thats how he got afford doing megadoses. Dont kn ow what that has to do with your respond when you are talking about pharmgrade lol

Ok I can see giving out some free UGL gear but no source is giving out free serostim kits and Pharma grade oxandrolone. Like I said just the cost of the Pharma grade serostim and oxandrolone would run close to 7 grand for this stack not counting the free UGL gear. I understand the need for pharma grade HGH and oxandrolone but very spendy unless you are a top 5 Mr.O or a Top 3 Arnold competitor.
20  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: How would you dose NPP in this context? on: April 15, 2014, 02:47:47 AM
5 weeks of superdrol-Ouch!. to jumpstart you should think about just running superdrol for 3-4 weeks-20-30mg a day, till your Test kicks in. The NPP should kick in pretty quick it is Phenyl-prop wich acts fairly quickly. This is a first cycle?  I might switch out the NPP for EQ but that is just my-IMO. You would have to use about the same amount of either or but the EQ is better for a first cycle-IMO. Your body though. NPP if you get good quality will probably give you faster gains.Both EQ and NPP you have to make sure your getting the real stuff. EQ raws are often poor quality same with NPP it can be hit and miss.
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid Myths #1... all u gotta do is take more and you'll be a freak. on: April 14, 2014, 05:04:54 AM
it was actually the campus of an old college... some "cells" were actually old dorm rooms... actually, most 'cells' were..... not mine though. lol.

it was still prison, and everything that comes along with prison... fights/assaults/stabbing/murders/ect.. , gangs, intimidation/extortion, bribery,smuggling, 'black market' stuff. still had lifers, murders, rapists, kidnappers, ect... AB, la eme, blacks were mostly from Chicago so they weren't BGF, mostly GD, and the indian/native gangs, who had the largest numbers, but were the least organized, or respected, as they were tolerant of child molesters (as that's a popular thing to do on the reservations, I supposed), and most of them only had short 2-3yr sentences and the turnover was too great. AB and Mexicans had guys with long sentences and less turnover... the blacks generally ratted on whomever they could, as they were generally just coke runners who got popped on I90 or I29.

They had REAL La Eme ( Mexican Mafia) stamped guys in there or just associates. They usually don't put anybody hooked up with La eme with the real stamp in a minimum security prison. so lots of Gangster dicples from chicago and no black guerrilla familly. dosn't sound like a normal prison.
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid Myths #1... all u gotta do is take more and you'll be a freak. on: April 14, 2014, 04:36:17 AM
With the right lighting and mirror anybody can make certain areas look good. It's all about that muscle illusion. look at the lighting. The guy in the first pic and 2nd pic is ESF? How does anybody know for certain? did he post these himself?

damn! just for a few vials of empty Tren? what other charge did they have on you? I bet a better lawyer could of got you a better deal but i don;t know your backround. I only got in trouble with the law as a minor  and they are not as strict on minors. I got busted with scheduled drugs, wreckless driving, eluding the police. didn"t say a word and My lawyer made a deal with the Da for 1 year probation and 30 hours community service. I took that deal and pleaded guilty. I had no time to think . I was going to go in and fight the case but the day of the trial my lawyer told me they would offer me that deal and i thought about it and just decided to plead guilty because if I went to trial I would of spent about a year in JDH.
23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 22 year old behind Mutagenic *busted* on: April 14, 2014, 04:28:48 AM
Absolutely ridiculous.   Ive read about murder cases where the perps got 10-15 years.

me too. Guys who get charged with manslaughter get 10 years! I don"t know what state ESfitness lives in but I would move. My friend got busted with 6 pounds of marijauna,cash and he did about a year in some court ordered drug rehab type  facility wasn't even federal prison or county.
24  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lara asked for Canelo: He got it on: April 14, 2014, 02:47:20 AM
Lara has to knock him out.  I'm assuming he fights going backwards and peppers him with the left but Canuelo will get effective aggression rounds.  Lara will tag Canelo like he did Williams but get robbed.  Also, look for Lara to push the thumb in his eye, definitely picked that trick up from 300 amateur fights.    

Angulo is a left hook specialist, and Lara kept backing out with his head up, so he got caught.  That's not Canelo's fight.

It will be a moral victory for him like the Williams fight.

Arum wants people to boycott the Maidana and Khan fights.  Fuck FMW and his TMT bullshit.  Joker boxing and outlets said he should be fighting Lara and have taken the winner of Bradley vs Manny.  I can't believe the midget did iti.  Bradley gassed out in the 2nd half of the fight.  

Yeah I notice everytime lara throw a punch to the eye he twist his thumb right in the eye socket. We talked about this before. lara is fucking fast. I don;t know if he has the power to knock canelo-out though. I think he will give a way better fight then Angulo. He might be able to do something similar to what Floyd did to him. Lara never looked hurt in the angulo fight. When angulo dropped him I think lara was just off balance.lara def fucked up Angulos eye for good I don;t care what doctor said it was ok for him to fight no way is that eye healthy after that Lara fight.
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Steroid Myths #1... all u gotta do is take more and you'll be a freak. on: April 14, 2014, 02:41:51 AM
I guess you guys missed his back pic  Huh



With the right lighting and mirror anybody can make certain areas look good. It's all about that muscle illusion. look at the lighting. The guy in the first pic and 2nd pic is ESF? How does anybody know for certain? did he post these himself?
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