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51  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 2 different Hygetropin brands? which is legit? on: April 07, 2014, 06:18:49 AM
does counterfeits here mean different hgh using the jintropin brand,which means there still be hgh inside it,or completely bunk hgh?

It could possibly contain HGH,you won"t know unless you do bloodwork post cycle and then during cycle and see what your HGH/IGF-1 levels are.
52  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: superdrol on: April 07, 2014, 04:19:21 AM
It is called super-drol short for super-anadrol so it is way stronger then real anadrol and it also promotes leaner gains. I tried the real deal 99% powder matt cahill was selling before he started capping it up and selling it under the designer supplements label. What can I say it was great shit. I got strong as fuck but I also did have some appetite problems and I felt a little bit of a cold for the first few days. It fucking works great! It is however very harsh and unfortunately some had sever liver problems from just one cycle and sued kevin smith. matt cahills partner who licensed it from Matt that was the Anabolc Xtreme brand not sledges designer supplements brand I got the raw powder and was told to mix it with some oliv oil and make a liquid oral out of it. Matt gave me the recipe on how to do it. he told me it was 99% pure and I don;t doubt it because I had major scalp irritation but major gains as well!

I still would have to put gasparis first run halodrol-50 in front of superdrol. Alot of people think they have tried gasparis real halodrol-50 but they havn't they tried the second formula released without the DMT and the masking agent-they just got sold the Tbol clone.

I got a few boxes of the REAL Halodrol-50 that was mainly just sold at the mr. Olympia contest that year and it was only sold on the market for maybe a month before they took out the DMT and the masking agent, the tabs still looked the same eventually they even got rid of that formula and made it just some herbal shit.

The batch I got was the most potent oral I have ever tried. It was so crazy I cannot barely explain it. It blew you up like superdrol but faster and you got a little bit more strength and it gave you that Halotestin like aggression. This shit I felt the first day I took it and that has never happened to me with any oral steroid to that degree.

real 98-99% M1T is no joke either, that stuff is like oral tren nastier then the halodrol-50. I know a guy who got the same batch of gaspari halodrol-50 as I did and he had to go to the hospital within 2 days his liver and kidneys just could not handle it he got jaundice and turned all yellow. I ran it for 30 days and I felt fine not one bad side effect.

I would say the top 3 Oral steroids I tried were the

#1- very first run of gasparis halodrol-50
#2 -Legal Gears M1T first batch that was capsules not the methylgels but both were great something about the capsules seemed stronger.
#3 sledges(Matt cahills) raw Superdrol powder.


I have tried all the regular orals like dbol,anadrol,Tbol,anavar,winstrol but they just were not on the level of these crazy designer steroids.still great orals but not on that level.
53  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 22 year old behind Mutagenic *busted* on: April 06, 2014, 10:24:23 PM
I think selling steroids is probably one of the riskiest and worst drugs you can sell. The profit margins are high. But considering how many electronic trails can lead back to some one over time. It really just is a high risk thing. Some guys are smart and can get away with it for a long time. But I would say its easier to get caught buying steroids by the dea than it is buying any other drug out their.

I know it is sketchy because if you sell a steroid to somebody you have never met on-line annd they don't inject it right and get a abcess and all sick and have to go to the ER do you think they give a fuck if they rat out somebody they don;t even know who sold them steroids on the internet? No they will telll LE exactly who they bought it from.Maybe if they bought it locally from some guy who they knew had connections and somebody you wouldn;t wan't to fuck with they would shut-up but some guy on the internet in a diffrent state they will rat you out.
very risky because of what is on the market. It is not like selling a drug you can"t get real sick using.Their is a whole injection protocol with anabolic steroids and you canlt bank on who your selling steroids to knows what they are doing with them or even knows how to open a amp!
54  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Alpha Pharm now has a domestic! on: April 06, 2014, 05:10:31 AM
There's value in not sweating the customs drop.

I am a bulk buyer and I can't stand these domestic Alpha-Pharma reps. I mean I do understand because I have been there myself and they are taking all the risk importing the gear but their profit margin is unreal! Even their bulk prices are insanely high! Alpha-Pharma is great gear but lets not compare them to watson Test depot. I know not a single one of us would take Alpha-Pharma over waston or Upjohn gear, and that is what they are comparing it too.

 I love Alpha-Pharma and it is as close to human grade gear you can get coming from a Indian company. I mean India does not have a super strict FDA like the USA and they don;t get that 10% margin of error by anybody like the USA FDA if they got ccaught letting one batch go that was over 10% or under 10% they would get shutdown till things were up to par like they do the USA companys.

Alpha-Pharma is not on that level. as far as what is available in bulk on the black market I think they are as good as it gets but not on par with watson or Upjohn. Way to much funding  behind watson and Upjohn and they make several medications not just AAS. So I don;t think their reps shuld compare them to those 2 american companys. They are a great company but I guarantee they have overdosed a product or underdoed a product at times b y more then 10% either way.

The reps are correct there are top pro bodybuilders who use Alpha-Pharma both men and female. It is the only blackmarket gear I would use but not worth 700$ for 100 amps of Test cyp. I used to buy there test esters for 1$ and the sust was 1.50$ that was of course international deal and in bulk but that is what these guys are paying and they then sell these amps for 10$ and 7$ in 100 pack. They are def making a huge profit but that is how the game wroks you risk your ass and you have to risk your ass for a reason. no reason to risk your ass for nothing might as well make as much as you can but these new guys are a tad overpriced. I like that guys will get safer gear and if money is no object I would def so go for it.

having been on watson Test depot for a year I will say it is a better Test cyp product then AP's cyp. But as far as blackmarket can't beat alpha-Pharma everything tests out very well.
55  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: how to get rid of sterile abscess on: April 06, 2014, 02:57:26 AM
sounds nasty.have you seen this?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8IGA3O_pDgsounds I Remember Greg valentino had that nasty abcess and the dumbfuck kept took a needle and started drawing out all the puss! It was fucking disgusting! That abcess was huge and he was drawing out the worst looking puss. I think he did go to the Hospital but he videotaped it before he went to the Hospital.

 I would go get it checked out and try to get prescribed some Levoflaxin it is a all purpose Anti-bitotic that works for a whole bunch of shit . It works great if you happen to have cellulitis.
56  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 22 year old behind Mutagenic *busted* on: April 06, 2014, 01:31:28 AM
I love when Bruce, Bill, Arnold and Cramer used to all duke it out online.

Yeah that was funny shit. P-Arnold got banned from anabolicminds back then. I think bruce did too. P.Arnold I believe ratted out cahill to the FDa and DEA and I think he did the same to Author L.Rea.

PA got all pissed off because he got busted up in the whole Balco scandal and got in trouble selling some of these designer steroid and like DMT at the same time Cahill was getting rich selling superdrol and Author L.Rea as getting rich selling DMT(Original Formula Ergomax) wich PA got busted for so PA blew a fuse and I believe questioned authoritys why he got busted selling DMT and Author L.Rea was selling DMT with no problmes whatsoever but Auhtor L . rea got all sketched out once Don catlin Tested these products and found the DMT(Desoxy Methyl Testosterone) and then that whole Article in the washington times came out with the Testing Don catlin did on these products like superdrol,Erogomax LMG,Halodrol-50,
Methyl-1P

 (Author L. Rea only sold one decent size batch of DMT-( Ergomax LMG) and he sent the rest to some place in africa and sold it under a diffrent name. I would be pissed if I was PA too and saw guys getting rich off the same products I got busted selling and the FDA and LE was doing nothing about it and PA was just selling it to big name athletes(Author L. Rea and cahill were selling it to anybody on the internet with a credit card) Cahill was in jail when he had superdrol on the market so he was just kicking back in prison making bank. what cahill did was subcontract superdrol to kevin smith who owned Atomic nutrition and the brand was Anabolic Xtreme but still called superdrol,kevin payed Matt alot of money hundreds of thousands of dollars to license him the superdrol,Pheraplex and rebound XT.

Even though I would be heated pissed if I was P.Arnold I wouldn"t snitch them out. It would be tempting because the whole thing was really unfair. Between Patrick Arnold and Don catlin who tested the products sold on-line and gave a article to the washington post that is what screwed the whole superdrol,Original halodrol-50 and the original DMT(Ergomax-LMG). After that testing nobody really got the real deal halodrol-50,Ergomax-LMG, the superdrol kept being sold by little start up companys just in the supplement game to sell superdrol they were little get in and get out business's but none of them got sued just matt cahill got sued.

The FDA hates matt cahill back in the day as some of you might know Cahill was on the boards like anabolicminds and a few others posting under sledge or sledgehammer and in 2002 till he released his trademark product superdrol he ran a underground lab and he sold very potent DNP and one 17-18 year old girl took too much and overheated and died they actually said she was trying to kill herself(she had a horrible image problem)..

They raided matts house and his partners house and found DNP and steroids and wthey eventually charged him for some bullshit and he was sentened to 2 years in jail but while this whole process was going on he was still in the game and came up with superdrol wich was a huge hit.

That is when he started designer supplements and they did a few batches of superdrol wich sold out fst and it was 99% pure guys reported insane gains from those superdrol batches then Matt had to go to jail but he brokered this whole deal with kevin Smith before he went to jail and while he was in jail and was making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Kevin smith who was now running all the superdrol also got sued by some college baseball player. This baseball player did one cycle of superdrol and it blew his liver and he needed a liver transplant and he lost his scholoship and he sued  Anabolic Xtreme and won a undiscloed amount of money.

It is suspicious and unfair how the FDA loves to pick on guys who have been in prior trouble with the law but even after they busted down matt and kevin for selling superdrol they didn;t do shit about these little pop in and out companys who sold superdrol. how come none of them got in trouble or at least got warned by the FDA. I guess if you start a business and are selling products that are grey area put somebody who is totally clean as the CEO and stay in the backround and stay low-key. These guys like PA,Bruce Kneller,author L.Rea,Matt cahill all get discriminated against! if any of those 4 guys release a product these guys in the industry(competition) have the products tested and try to find anything they can report to the FDA.If it is some nobdoy the dompetition does not give a fuck. It is only when those four guys bring out a product.

If these compounds are not scheduled drugs then there should be no reprucussions for selling supplements that are not shceduled drugs. I do believe they should not sell them to anybody under the age of 21 years old. Should be stricter guidlines but not illegal or grey area. Even just regular AAS being scheduled drugs was a joke!

The DEA and many others did not want steroids to be illegal at all! They all thought it was stupid and a waste of time but even with the DEA and all the main groups who did not think steroids should be illegal somehow they became illegal,my guess is the drug companys paid somebody off because the drug companys so alot of profit to be made and it worked because TRT,HRT,HGH,HCG ,arimidex, get prescribed like a guy and they are all very expensive.

The only steroids you don't see get prescribed too often are the oral steroids like anavar,halotestin, and anadrol. I don;t see many guys get prescribed any oral steroids even though they are still being produced.
57  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Alpha Pharm now has a domestic! on: April 05, 2014, 04:55:46 AM
There has been domestic Alpha-Pharma for awhile by a few diffrent guys but their prices always seem high. I rather buy it from the main source so it hasn't travelled through too many hands.
58  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 2 different Hygetropin brands? which is legit? on: April 05, 2014, 03:26:41 AM
my guy got browntops from .cn

been on I belive 4 days and up 9-11lbs.. I forget how much he said last night. I believe he went through 1 bottle, so that's only 2.5iu/day.. says the pressure in his head was bad and was lethargic.

9-11 lbs in 2-3 days! Holy shit that is alot of weight gain. It has to be some water weight and stored glycogen. What else is the guy using? 9-11 lbs in 2-3 days is pretty remarkable. No way it is all pure lean muscle. he has to be holding alot of water.
59  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 2 different Hygetropin brands? which is legit? on: April 05, 2014, 03:23:40 AM
all HGH is sketchy to buy from overseas on-line sites. I have heard alot of conflicting views on Hygetropin. Try to find the main source and you should get the real shit. I remember Jintropin used to be the best chinese HGH and was great and their were no counterfeits at the start then of course anyone who has scuccess somebody else will counterfeit your product.
Counterfeits are getting good these days too!
60  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ab Cramps from Flexing hard. on: April 04, 2014, 10:37:01 PM
Anyone ever get these?  How do I stop it from happening.  It feels like someone stabbing you.  It can`t be lack of water or potassium as I drink plenty of water and get a ton of Vitamin K. 


It happens. keep flexing those muscles. wait till the cramps are gone but always Flex diffrent muscle groups per day. You will notice a diffrence in seperation, there is always a muscle group to flex! and work on getting better striations and seperation.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
61  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: WES - I want an autographed picture of you on: April 04, 2014, 02:51:05 AM
My man no one.......right back at you buddy.  Wink

WhiteWidow is my biggest fan!  Cheesy

I have no issues with Wes. Great that he still alive and posting on getbig.
62  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: I am hearing to many guys claiming they can't train after doing a Injection! on: April 04, 2014, 02:22:50 AM
I think the sources are making such high dosages per /ml they are using more BA and don;t list it. they will always claim just 2% BA when they are using 5-8%BA. I just get so many PM;s and here it on forums all the time how somebody cannot train a certain muscle group for along time because they did a shot there and it hurts too bad to use that muscle group or one side of the muscle group gets fucked like when you hit a right quad your left quad feels fine but your right quad get so sore you can;t even use it to lift and you need 2 healthy legs to do squats,leg press and any leg exercise.

How many of you honestly had to hold off on training a muscle group even though it was that day to train that muscle group because of to much PIP? I have had a little doscomfort but never enough to skip training that particular muscle group but I hear about this happening all the time. Thwe worst thing I get is a little bit under the weather. slight flu symptoms sometimes,expecially when I start a new compound or just start up a cycle but nothing that bad kind of how you feel the day after a Flu shot.

I swear the blackmarket underground gear is getting worse and worse by the day.Like I said I doubt anybody wants some 22 year old kid who lives with their parents with no real lengthy chemistry degree cooking your gear. You just never know who you are buying from till they get busted and I am always shocked who is behind these labs.very few guys who run UGl's actually train or use their products, some sources do use their own products and train, but the majority don't.That's not really my key point the most fat out of shape guy could make the best gear ever if they had a good chemistry backround.
63  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: WES - I want an autographed picture of you on: April 03, 2014, 06:52:51 AM
Wes is so old he has not seen this thread yet because he has been trying to take a piss for the last 2 hours.
64  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / I am hearing to many guys claiming they can't train after doing a Injection! on: April 03, 2014, 06:07:11 AM
I am hearing guys who do a injection in say their ass and they have so much PIP they can't train legs the next day, same goes for shoulders a guy will shoot just 1cc of gear in their shoulder and say they have so much PIP they can't train shpoulders the next day. This should not happen! Their is something wrong with your gear if you cannot train the muscle you injected the day prior. I am hearing this more and more!

I just shot in my glute and cannot walk! I don;t get why this is happening so often these days. Even these supposive top sources sell gear were you shoot it and it is so painfull your ass cheek swells up so bad you almost have to go to the ER. If you can't train legs for a week after you take a bad shot what is the point? You want to train alot while on gear but more and more guys have to take days off due to Post injection pain in a area!

This is because we have 22 year old kids making gear and are the top sources. This market is getting fucking sad! I shoot Watson Test depot and I don;t have any of these problems I read about. Trye story I gave my friend some of strangos Test E and his ass swole up so big I was pushing him to go to the ER,but he refused. I gave him some levoflaxin I had wich is a all-purpose anti-biotic but that shot didnlt just make his ass swell up he felt all sick as well after the shot and he did the shot 100% correctly! I emailed Strango and he refused to do anything about it. Then when I posted it up on anabolic board I got banned!
65  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: WES - I want an autographed picture of you on: April 03, 2014, 05:52:47 AM
Me too! How much? I'm your #1 fan! anybody who hates me for no reason is a huge fan of mine. write it out to the biggest piece of shit filth whitewidow from-Wes!
66  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: my proviron just arrived, gonna try this stuff on the prostitutes on: April 03, 2014, 05:50:14 AM
Buy Ecstasy! Ecstasy will have you fucking like a pornstar all night! Take 200mg of MDMA press tab or some raw Molly and go fuck a bitch named Molly while on Molly. Bro where are you buying the prostitutes?Do you live in Amsterdam? Be careful! look at what happened to Tbombz.

 Proviron is nothing to special. Did you get the schering brand? I would use 50mg before sex. No drugs are needed as long as you have the right girl! If you want to fuck longer they sell this creme called stay -Hard. They sell it at Porn-stores in the USA and that creme works real well. It is not a lube it is like a dry creme and it makes your dick hard forever. I like to use human tranquilizers they don't really make you that horny but they can make you fuck forever. At your age you don't really need any help from a pill. The human tranquilizers like xanax help if you have a real hot chick and you are worried you will bust a nutt to quick.

The amount of Test you are on makes a diffrence as well it sounds like you are on a good amount I doubt proviron will make that big of a diffrent. It will help some. It is pretty androgenic so it will make you somewhat horny but so will alot of diffrent pills. I hope it helps you out.

 they also sell a creme at the porn-store that makes you shoot bigger cum loads and the shit works fucking great! I gave this chick a massive facial using that orgasm creme. That creme definately worked. Viagra and cialis always just seem to give me a headche if the chick is hot you don;t need pills maybe just a chill pill so you don't cum to fast but that's it if you are still under 35 years old. I am 32 years old and on just 200mg of Test depot a week and it really just matters how hot the girl is. I only use pills if I want to fuck longer or bust a bigger nutt.
67  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bostin Lloyd gives advice to first time user on: April 03, 2014, 03:26:11 AM
LMFAO @ Bostin saying Nick would put on 50 lbs, 25 lean tissue, in 4 months. No. 4 months of first time gear and low dose slin and GH is not going to add 25 lbs lean muscle

Nick is at a great BF% to start a cycle so I do believe if he could really stick out that cycle he would gain some serious weight and get some serious size and I don;t think he would get fat looking because he is so lean. I don;t know about 40lbs but he would def gain some serious size on that cycle it is hard to judge how much he would gain but it would be alot! Nick is totally maxed out genetically and nick is fucking strong for being natural. Nick would be a great test subject for this cycle bostin recommended.

I think Nick would gain about 35-40 lbs but not all of it would be muscle of course some of it would be water and glycogen storage but he would gain alot of lean muscle mass
68  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bostin Lloyd gives advice to first time user on: April 03, 2014, 03:16:17 AM
give me an educated, intelligent reply.. while stating your experience.

have you run 4g? 6g? 2g? of what? for how long? ect...

i'll wait.......

bro you really think that is the best way to start off a newbie on AAS and HGH plus a insulin protocol? I think nick Wright is a perfect kid to start on steroids,he is 22 years old so he is definately done growing naturally,nick is pretty damn strong for being natural not sure you have seen any of his videos but he can bench 315 on the flat bench for reps wich is great considering he weighs 170 lbs. Nick is also at the perfect BF% to start a cycle.

The one thing I disagree is not really the dosages it is the fact you want to start out as low as possible to start out with. just like any medication you don't just start out on a heavy dose with no prior backround. You slowly raise your dose when needed. same goes with the HGH you start at 2-4 Iu's amd slowly start raising your dosage up. The other thing is you don"t want to use Tren or masteron right off the bat. those 2 compounds you want to throw in after you have been on cycle for a little while and your body has gotten used to AAS.

Anybody who is just getting started out on AAS needs to be careful using the AAS that is a little bit high on the androgenic side. tren of course is super anabolic and so is masteron but the anabolic to andrognic ratio is not to far off both masteron and trenbolone are pretty androgenic compounds.

I don"t even know what to say about the Insulin. I wouldn"t recommend Nick to start using it right off the bat ,maybe after a few months once you see how he is handling the HGH on its own and all the other anabolics on their own and if he is not having any health problems and feels good i would then throw in the Insulin protocol.

I guess my main point is AAS,HGH and Insulin are medications and you should always try to use the least amount possible to start out with, and work your way up. I will say it again! These are medications and should be treated like medications. That would be like me getting a heavy prescription of benzos or opiates hell even somas and having the doctor telling me to take huge doses that are not necessary to get a good effect out of the drug. why take 10 tablets when at first one to two tablets will be very effective. It woudn't take long for Nick to build up a tolerance and be able to use the cycle bostin gave him safely without any crazy side effects.
69  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bostin Lloyd gives advice to first time user on: April 03, 2014, 02:50:05 AM
the kid looked top notch at that show he won a year or so ago. the contra costa.

now he looks an unhealthy as shit and isnt much bigger than me... a 250mg a week guy.

No he didn't look that great going by todays judging criteria! I point out  flaw after flaw! Look at his chest in that front lat spread he did at the Contra Costra,his chest is non existent! very poor(flat)chest! I could go on and on but this is the criteria the judges follow. he does look good but if you get into the judging criteria Bostin looks horrible and has lots of flaws when he competed in the Contra Costra.Look at his calves as well(non existent)! His delts are not capped enough! His abs look poor. No lower lumbar Tree trunk back! very high lat insertions. his quad tear-drops are weak. His bicep peaks need serious improvement! His forarms have no meat on them! He does not have shredded glutes! Horrible rear lat spread. needs to bring up his traps. I could go on and on and he was on that much shit!

Sure he looks great to alot of us and we have to respect him for training and dieting but going by the judges criteria he looked horrible and had numerous flaws this is just how they judge people going by all these super high standards, Not sure how he won that contra costra but Bostin did talk about prep coaches paying off the judges so we don;t know if he really won that show 100% fairly. No hate on Bostin he looks great to alot of us but going by the judges criteria and todays judging criteria is insane! They are very pickey and strict and it is giving bodybuilders serious image problems and they start to get all obsessive and that is when the bodybuilding lifestyle can get so bad you literally kill yourself to win! I think he looked OK but going by judging criteria he had major flaws.

What Bostin is doing is working. he is telling the truth and he is getting alot of clients interested in bostin training them, so Bostin has to be doing OK financially. Bostin knows how fucked up being a pro bodybuilder is and he dosn"t want anything to do with this horrible drug crazec sport where judges are also payed off. bostin has seen first hand how corrupt this so called sport is. I believe it is a sport because these are some of the best athletes in the world.
70  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Dallas McCarver - guest posing at the 2014 IFBB/NPC Govenor's Cup on: April 02, 2014, 11:10:40 PM
TRUE,,but capreise still had impressive build'relative to what he was doing  mens physique'better than most guys who become fat/skinny fat/untrained .
I agree. The guy still looks great-IMO. He def looks like he is in-shape just is natural now.
71  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: 22 year old behind Mutagenic *busted* on: April 02, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
Not to sound like a CTer but I have my doubts the storage locker was randomly broken into

probably somebody who knew he had products or maybe cash there broke into it. This is what I am telling you guys these top UGL's are run by young kids 22-25 years old who don't know shit about what they are doing. so many top sources in the past have ended up to be the biggest fuck-ups . There was a source lots of people used on this board years ago and his gear was supposively top-notch but the guy was a heroin addict! You guys really want your gear made by a heroin addict or some guy in his early 20's living with mommy and daddy?

bruce kneller got busted running red stal labs and even though he misslabled his masteron with tren at least the guy was a nurse and had actually gone to china to check out some chem wharehouses and knew where his powders were coming from. Bruces wife spoke mandarin so she could talk to the chinese dealers and that is a great idea actually going to china and seeing where your raws are being produced. Who does that these days? Nobody! Sure bruce got sent some masteron that was really tren but after that is when he actually flew to china and spent months there checking out chem wharhouses.bruce also was hired b y gaspari so he did it for both reasons to get great raws for gasoari Nutrition and his UGL.

I don;t know any source who goes to those lengths anymore.. I wish there were some stand-up sources these days.
72  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am back! Dialysis cant keep me down! on: April 02, 2014, 11:27:07 AM
i believe this.

a lot of shit you can read about someone and be like 'whatever'- this is very believable.

This isn"t something I am making up! Derek came on getbig himself and outed vince as somebody who bought his webcm. I will hunt down the orig
73  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: I am back! Dialysis cant keep me down! on: April 02, 2014, 11:00:49 AM

1.  I would never pay for a webcam session from anyone

2.  The webcam stuff that Derek did was the VERY LEAST of his activities...some of which I had erased and destroyed to keep it from ever seeing the light of day.  

3.  Derek wasn't cremated, he had an open casket burial.  The only person bodybuilding related who went to his viewing was Colette Nelson and I signed his online death book.  No one else showed up or signed his book from RX Muscle, MD, etc....not even Charles Moser for GAT.  All he had was his family at the most

4.  You are correct that me and Derek were friends...even after the spitting incident which I actually blame John Romano for that whole debacle rather than him.  However, that ended when he threatened to murder my mother and my family.  At that point, I made sure that he died knowing that he would never be forgiven by me.  

5.  Derek had liver cancer and was on dialysis but all the steroids and synthol were just a contributing factor in his death....and again its something I'm not going to disclose



In any event, he's long dead and I see no reason to drag him up from the grave.

Your full of shit Vince! Derek himself came on getbig and told us all you bought webcam shows from him and you didn't deny it back then. Maybe i can find that old posts but it would take forever to dig up that thread. You don;t have to lie you know you bought webcam shows off of Derek!
74  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Dallas McCarver - guest posing at the 2014 IFBB/NPC Govenor's Cup on: April 02, 2014, 06:03:56 AM
^^^


I think a huge part of genetics for bodybuilding boils down to organ "toughness"

Yes you better have some stroong fucking kidneys and liver to play and also having no cancer or heart disease in your familys history helps.
75  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Dallas McCarver - guest posing at the 2014 IFBB/NPC Govenor's Cup on: April 02, 2014, 05:51:56 AM
dex is the most underrated Mr O.

great physique.

Cool dude too, keeps to himself I think.

O reagen is the older guy right? He was never a bber?

Yes John O'Reagon is old and dosn;t look like he touches any weights but he is a nice guy and knows his chemistry more so then most any prep guru just preaches heavy AAS/HGH/Insulin protocol and exotic compounds.

John is a super smart guy just knows it all boils down to chemistry at the end but i think he over does it. John trained alot of bodybuilders in NJ and new york and now lives in California last I heard.

He helped capriese murray Turn pro within 2 shows but once again if you look at capriese at the 2005 nationals that year Synthol everywhere! Capriese also looked like he was running a shit load of gear and he was.capriese said he was going to quit bodybuilding the first sign of health problems and guess what,that was after the NY Pro show right after he got his pro card,he was still in shape after winning the nationals that year did the NY pro show shortly after took 5th place had health problems and never competed again. He did a mens physique show last year but he is done with bodybuilding. You should of seen the size diffrence when he did that mens physique show just insane how he shrunk.
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