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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: We CAN save our "MECCA"......heres how. on: May 29, 2007, 01:47:15 PM
With all the talk of the original Golds, I thought all would enjoy this.
Larry McCusker ( of Muscle Mag International fame) created a virtual 3-D Golds Gym last year.
Ken Sprague  (Oldgoldsguy at Ironage) filled in all the missing details.
Here's a short animation Larry did
http://www.larrymccusker.com/golds2006.html

the original thread
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=14167.20
(most of the pictures will not be viewable without being a member, but great inside information can still be read)

and a few of the pics from Larry







Another animation from the back (note mattress on the roof for wayward bodybuilders!)

http://www.larrymccusker.com/golds009.jpg

Needless to say Larry is the man!

http://www.larrymccusker.com/dumbells.jpg



2  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: Sergio Oliva - London 1972 on: March 09, 2007, 03:23:31 PM
I don't think these pics will be surpassed by any other bodybuilder.

I agree!
However if any body has a chance to equal or surpass it's this kid...

Sergio Oliva Jr.!
3  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: Ken Waller and Dave Draper on: October 16, 2006, 05:50:37 PM
GREAT pic Onlyme!

Here's the story about the trip by Draper.



Shortly after that we were invited to go to Hawaii together on what was supposed to be the beginning of a long tour. I think we were going to visit four islands and Vietnam or something like that.

MMI: Like a USO-type thing?
DD. The promoter was Australian. So Arnold and I got together to train, do some PR, and go from one island to the next. I made arrangements for my daughter to be cared for, and my wife was going come with me.

By the time we got to Hawaii and did the first show, we'd made some friends - luckily because one of the promoters wound up in jail as a result of some car-importing he was doing. It wasn't a major crime, but he was bringing them in from Australia without the proper documents, so the authorities locked him up. That cut the first promoter down. The second guy turned out to be a kind of circus person. He had children that he'd cart around like carnie kids.

Arnold and I are there doing the show, Zane's there, and we're getting to know the promoter. The show doesn't go over too big because right across the street there's a famous rock group.

MMI: Do you remember which one?
DD: Something like Canned Heat. They performed the same night we did, and people didn't want to come see Arnold and me compared to a rock group.

The promoter skipped out the following day, leaving a lot of unpaid bills. He just disappeared and left his kids with us. Arnold and I were stuck with them. They were really sweet and I liked them, but they became our responsibility. A handful of people were angry with us about these bills that were unsettled at that point... bills for hotel, food, the ad that was run in the local papers, the hall that had been rented, the gyms... just a lot of mess. He really ditched us.

Arnold and I spent three weeks there just living day by day. I had sent my wife home so that she could be with my daughter and not have to put up with meager living. We eventually had to make arrangements for these kids because the guy never came back for them. They essentially were orphaned. It really was a pretty monstrous situation. We were stranded with no money. No cash. People were very generous, though, and helped us out. I had a BankAmericard and we got flights back on that. Experiences like these brought Arnold and me together in a way that's different from how he's been tied with other people.

The interview in it's entirety

http://davedraper.com/mag-muscle-mag-1999-2.html



4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: NPC Tennesse State Championships on: August 27, 2006, 05:32:53 PM
Faking it?  Ya never know..  

Yes we do know!
Pocha is a retired Navy and Gulf War veteran (gunners mate). He was first diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis 11 years ago.
Prior to that it was the basketball court with maybe a little training after, nothing serious.
He also one of the lucky ones...his legs grew just from the running!
The wheelchair came into play about 3 years ago when his balance became so unpredictable that normal walking was no longer an option. He says he also uses it like a shopping cart in the gym, pushing it around and loading what he needs in the seat!
Being unable to stand fully upright during his posing is also a balance issue, if he did he would be on the floor. But as he told me, "I'd hit my poses from my knees if I had to!"
For those unaware MS is thought to be an autoimmune disease that affects the central nervous system. Some areas of the body are unaffected some are hit hard.  Pocha is unable to raise his foot even one inch off the floor when lying on his stomach so hamstrings are such an area that is effected.
 Legs are worked with smith machine squats, leg press and hacks where there is a fixed position and balance does not come into play.
The Knoxville show was his very first try at competition and was used as a warm up for the state show last weekend...3rd in both shows BTW. Starting a competitive career at 40 years of age isn't easy under any circumstances.

Of course he thinks what he is doing is no big deal, as most that rise above adversity, they just do it as part of daily living. Well he's wrong, it is a big deal and it shows us all what can be accomplished with the spirit of a true warrior.
The fire is stoked for his next competition. The reception of the crowds in Tennessee lifted his spirit as he had never known.

You want to know what bodybuidling is really all about?
You just read it.
5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: NPC Tennesse State Championships on: August 22, 2006, 03:44:06 PM
Here are some pics of Pocha Noel from the Greater Knoxville Classic held a week before the state.
Some days this guy can't even walk, and yet there he is unable to stand fully upright bringing to the stage!
Amazing!







6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: NPC Tennesse State Championships on: August 21, 2006, 02:26:47 PM
The man's name I was referring to is Pocha Noel and he is afflicted with multiple sclerosis. Some days he cannot even walk I was told by Bryan Hayworth the Tennessee NPC chair and contest promoter. He also competed in the Greater Knoxville classic taking 3rd in the novice heavyweight. I'm unsure of his placing at the state but it doesn't really matter, he is a champion even making it to the stage!
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: NPC Tennesse State Championships on: August 20, 2006, 09:28:41 PM
Arnold Jr.
Do you happen to know the name of the competitor who had to be taken center stage in his wheel chair?
Multiple sclerosis or Muscular dystrophy I'm guessing but what an inspiration and a profile in courage.
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Sergio Is Coming To New York! on: July 17, 2006, 05:16:39 PM
Sorry ....all fixed!
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Sergio Is Coming To New York! on: July 17, 2006, 04:26:31 PM
All New York/New Jersey area fans this is a golden opportunity to hear the "Myth" in a rare seminar appearence.
"Moment for the Ages" is being produced by www.CcoreBody.com

Sergio is funny, fascinating, and needless to say one of the greatest ever.
Here's hoping the event is a success!

 
10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Lee Haney at the 1991 Mr Olympia ( Video ) on: July 15, 2006, 08:54:07 PM
Thanks ND for posting that! I was there on the front row and that routine is the single most awe inspiring moment I have ever witnessed in bodybuilding...The final appearance of a King!

11  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: Frank Zane's Diet on: June 19, 2006, 10:12:14 PM
Whoa!
That would be a record price.  $50 is about the average going rate. The highest I've seen on Ebay is maybe $85.
Unless that auction comes with a turn down service with a mint on your pillow I 'd wait until the next one! Wink
12  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: whoes the short dude to the left of Draper in this pic on: June 09, 2006, 09:07:27 PM
 Hugo Labra!

13  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: what was the arnold/mentzer confrontation about at the 80 olympia? on: May 28, 2006, 11:42:56 AM
I think Waller would have been a bastard to start with, there are pics of him using 150's in the incline bell press in the early 70's.

And here are those pics!





14  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: what was the arnold/mentzer confrontation about at the 80 olympia? on: May 26, 2006, 08:55:03 AM
Yep that's the Big Red Machine!

Keith you mentioned that you would call him. If you haven't talked to Ken in awhile that might be an exercise in futility.
Bill Grant on his last trip out to LA tried to get a hold of Ken. He called Extreme Activewear where Ken worked and they told Bill that he didn't work there anymore and as soon as his house sold he was moving back east with his son.
No one seems to know where he ended up, St Louis perhaps? (I believe his sister lives there)

I interviewed Ken for Ironage a year or so ago and this is the last update that I know of.
http://ironage.us/articles/preston-waller.html
15  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ed Corney...Now That's Posing! on: May 24, 2006, 09:14:36 PM
The music in the clip was Curtis Mayfield's "Pimp Chase" from the movie SuperFly.

ed didn't pose to that BTW.

From Joel Brandwein, Ed's webmaster:

"I feel like I should explain (defend?) myself a bit concerning this clip. 

I've been on an absolute quest to find Ed's posing routines on film.  So, with the help of Ed's old friend Bob Perata, I finally tracked down some VHS tapes of Ed guest posing in 1985 and 1987 (at age 51 and 53, respectively).  Unfortunately the footage was pretty degraded.  The actual VHS tape was a bit "time worn", the filming was a bit poor and shaky, the color was not too goo and the audio was unusable.  So, I had to convert the footage to black and white, make it slightly slow motion to reduce camera shake and remove short sections where the camera man suddenly jerked the camera away from Ed.  I also had to lay over some usable audio. 

The clip that I posted on iFilm is a very short "encore" section where Ed briefly reappears on stage after his real routine is finished and hits some very quick shots for the appreciative crowd.  The 12-minute long routing that precedes it, and will be on the DVD that we're releasing, is set to very dramatic music and is so beautiful and powerful that it makes the hair on your arms stand up.  Ed and I felt that after that first long section on the DVD, it would be fun to have this short encore piece set to something "lighter" (like the SuperFly soundtrack music we chose), lest people get the impression that Ed was taking himself a bit too seriously. 

So that's how we wound up with this short "teaser" clip which is neither a full routine by Ed nor is it set to music that he ever would have posed to.


P.S. You should see the very brief footage from the 1987 exposition where a 53-year-old Ed gets on stage next to a 31-year-old Tom Platz and they briefly do a "pose down".  Ask yourself how many men that age could hold their own next to a great bodybuilder like Platz who is 22 years their junior? "


16  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ed Corney...Now That's Posing! on: May 23, 2006, 10:07:38 PM
Ed was 51 in that routine.  Joel Brandwein, Ed and Danny Padilla's webmaster, is putting together a short DVD compliation of three of Ed's posing routines.
I've seen the completed DVD of Padilla's training and posing in the gym (only about 20 minutes survived a fire where there had originally been over three hours of training video shot) and it's very, very well done.
If the one that Joel finishes with Ed is comparable we will have something to treasure, and learn from, the master poser holding court!
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Ed Corney...Now That's Posing! on: May 23, 2006, 07:51:51 PM
Like the Danny Padilla video clip, just too good not to share!

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P4FJ92qKxs
18  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: Frank Zane's Diet on: May 22, 2006, 09:03:19 PM
If can get your hands on "3 More Reps" Book 1 (1978) there is quite an intensive section on Zane. In a Q and A setting he talked about "getting around 300 grams of protein a day...a pound of meat,fish and some eggs along with three yeast drinks and  maybe three protein mixtures a day.  (protein mixture was two ounces of heavy cream, six ounces of water and a half a cup of protein powder...he didn't mention it but at the time it was probably Blairs.)
He kept his carbs low and before a contest he would go on zero carbs for up 5 days in a row eating a baked potato on the 6th. This would be repeated if necessary  for up to two weeks before the show.
He also ran 2 to three miles 3 times a week (the word "cardio" was not yet in vogue) at a good clip.

The "3 More Reps" Books , there were 3, are great sources of info from the champs themselves taken from seminars given at George Snyders Olympus Gym and compiled by Rick Waye.
They come up on Ebay fairly often, they don't go cheap.
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Danny Padilla: 4 Weeks Out in 1990!!! on: May 18, 2006, 11:34:41 PM
Big Dan went on to take 3rd place in the Night of Champions that year.
This video simply must be shared!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKl9vOeMfM
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Sergio Olivia still big! on: May 13, 2006, 07:47:40 PM
CS, an absolutely phenominal thread on the man that still holds everyone in total awe, even Arnold!

They don't him "The Myth" for nuthin!

21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: 1977 World's Strongest Man on ESPN Classics on: May 06, 2006, 08:24:20 PM
NOT for the squeamish!



Franco did not break his leg, although is does look that way. His knee was completely dislocated, tearing every ligament and all the cartilages in his knee, plus ripping his hamstring and calf muscles!
The fact that he even walked again was a profile in determination.

In Franco's own words
http://www.skunkterrier.com/franco/
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Ed Corny on: May 04, 2006, 09:24:18 PM
From this past January

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=11791.0

And just to show what a class act Ed is he came back a couple of weeks later to answer questions that he wasn't able to get to.

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=12081.0

Ed's new website!
http://www.EdCorney.net









23  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: Gold's Gym history articles, books, comments, inputs on: April 30, 2006, 05:27:53 PM
Marilla try these individual threads (We'll be re-opening our membership soon)

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=11482.msg134444#msg134444

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=7131.msg127102#msg127102

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=70.msg110625#msg110625  (Ken posted some specs in this one)

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=9535.msg107636#msg107636

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=9511.msg107523#msg107523

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=8667.msg95492#msg95492

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=7279.msg87008#msg87008

http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=4675.msg61150#msg61150  (Ken's reason's for buying the gym in the first place)
24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / History - Stories - and Memories / Re: Gold's Gym history articles, books, comments, inputs on: April 29, 2006, 12:10:28 PM
Ken Sprague, who sold Gold's to Old Cannonball and friends posts often on Ironage.us and has shared several stories.
We have opened the forum for all to read so you can click here to read all of Ken's posts!
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?action=profile;u=1020;sa=showPosts
25  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Banned from ironage.us on: April 22, 2006, 10:46:21 AM
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=8059.0
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