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1  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Phil Heath - are there still clowns saying he is narrow? on: July 20, 2014, 12:38:57 PM
It's an advantage to be somewhat narrow as a bodybuilder. Could give many examples of legendary bodybuilders who aren't very wide. Very wide clavicles looks goofy and is hard to fill out.

That said, Phil's narrowness is his weakpoint, the front lat spread is his worst pose, something looks slightly off in that pose, the pecs along with the narrow delts.

But he is the best right now all things considered.
2  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Tips for overcoming adrenal fatigue/stimulant tolerance, please on: July 17, 2014, 01:25:13 AM
I experienced reverse tolerance to OTC stims. 20 years of off and on use of ephedrine and it still works.
Been taking 150mg a day last few weeks and it hits me like 300mg used to.
3  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: KAI 10 WEEKS OUT on: July 17, 2014, 01:21:41 AM
Truth is you can't tell shit from this one pic of Kai.
4  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Was Brando on the sauce? on: July 14, 2014, 05:24:50 PM
Protein straight from the tap

5  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Sev, please share with us your diet and contest prep protocols. on: July 14, 2014, 05:21:39 PM
Why did Sev choose that combo of drugs? Has he said? Maybe he couldn't get ahold of other stuff, I don't know?

Is 1600mg a boatload? Yeah it's a considerable dose but those drugs are relatively weak. A combo of say tren, test and an oral at 800mg total would be much stronger, at least ime. Would that combo at 800mg be low-dose for a new user? Hardly. Don't just look at the total milligrams.
And of course tren for example would yield more results but if he had done tren for his first time you guys would have called him an idiot for doing such an "advanced" drug as a newbie.

What kind of cycle would you guys here have put this fighter dude on?
6  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death on: July 14, 2014, 04:58:27 AM
The only BB drug I for the life of me can't understand why guys use. Hell I even "get" the guys who synthol and touch up their weak parts the night before a show. But this....fuck DNP

Why? I don't understand why a serious competitor would not use it. Many come in just slightly too heavy. Imagine if a guy who regularly comes in 4-5lbs too fat would have used DNP at a low dose for maybe 3-4 weeks at the start or middle of his regular prep, doing everything else the same... could mean 1st place instead of 3rd or 4th or 5th.

I think the cataract formation is the main worry, nasum's post was great. As I understand it, this was the reason it was pulled as a weight loss drug in the US. People seem to feel like DNP is somehow cheating. Are you kidding me, no one cares what you did for your prep, only what you look like.

Personally I have not used it, but if I competed I most likely would.
7  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Saw Rich Piana at the gym tonight on: July 13, 2014, 11:20:26 PM
my beef w bukowski was if he really hated society that much and hated himself that why did he give so many interviews? true isolationists that hate people live in the middle of nowhere and refuse human contact.

I think he was angry, but more at himself. and instead of dealing w his demons he drowned them in alcohol. the hating society thing was an angle. if he truly hated society he would have written in isolation and never granted an interview. I think a lot of my distain forr him comes from his inability to deal w his issues, and the fact that it's become cool to like him. I'm not saying that's why you like him it obviously isn't but you know what I'm saying.

as for piana ya like there's a def expiration date there. there's no going back to 'normal' or any semblance thereof.

He knew he was contradicting himself wrt doing interviews and readings. He often ridiculed himself for doing it, often feeling like he was selling out. Kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. He never denied his weaknesses, his need for alcohol to deal with life etc. It's the same with any so-called misanthropist... so many claim to hate all people, saying how they are happiest when they are alone, perhaps saying they prefer the company of their dogs, yet they still need human contact in some form, in some quantity. Are there any true misanthropists who haven't killed themselves?

Bukowski was a bodybuilder. Look at this beautiful poem about lifting weights. Cheesy
8  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Saw Rich Piana at the gym tonight on: July 13, 2014, 11:01:04 PM
bukowski was a joke.

made a career of self loathing and claiming to hate society but was the biggest attention whore going.

I think everyone who trains seriously has some kind of mental issue, a disorder or disorders etc. some are more extreme than others.

everybody dies. the reaper comes for us all. I'd rather abuse the shit out of my body, lived a glorious life at redline and die young than grind out the last years of my life in an old age home wishing I had have done things differently.

Bukowski is like a god to me. Absolutely love him more than I can say, I have everything he has written pretty much and read it regularly. "Van Bilderass" comes from a Bukowski story. He loved life but also saw the impossible contradictions and problems with living. He really comes across as genuine to me, the most important quality a person can have imo.

It was kind of silly to paste that pic in this thread, was just reminded of that quote.

Your last paragraph, well I kind of agree, but then you can't be critical of, for example, the self-destructive drug use of guys in this bodybuilding lifestyle. Piana guaranteed has a lot of self-loathing in him, what he's doing is crazy dangerous, far beyond the risks of any hormone use. Injecting plastics and glass everywhere in your body, muscles, lips, ass, everything. When he has to downsize that's going to look ridiculous... that's why I think he figures he will be dead by that time.

That quote may be taken out of context when applied to Pianis drug abuse.

A few other good Bukowski quotes:

“If you’re going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don’t even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery–isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a test of your endurance, of how much you really want to do it. And, you’ll do it, despite rejection and the worst odds. And it will be better than anything else you can imagine. If you’re going to try, go all the way. There is no other feeling like that. You will be alone with the gods, and the nights will flame with fire. You will ride life straight to perfect laughter. It’s the only good fight there is.”

“We’re all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn’t. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing. ”

Absolutely beautiful, I have shivers reading this shit. Cheesy
9  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Saw Rich Piana at the gym tonight on: July 13, 2014, 09:43:56 PM
the guy is doing what he loves. what he does or how he gets there is his business. people see him as a representative due to his popularity of our pastime which kinda sucks cause the guy does have dysmorphia issues but fuck who doesn't he's just a little more extreme. but I've never heard anyone say a bad word abt him that's met him and he seems like a genuine and good guy from what I seem of him.

He may love what he does but he is straight up suicidal. I don't think he plans on living that long. You wouldn't inject tons of microscopic glass beads into your body if you were AT ALL concerned with longevity. Severe issues. It's not a diss as such, just an observation.

10  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Macros! - Proteins, Carbs, Fats! on: July 13, 2014, 09:40:17 PM
15-20 + = muscular endurance

Platz built his quads with endurance training? Cheesy
11  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Growing Marijuana on: July 13, 2014, 09:33:33 PM

Is there truth to this or is he just fucking with me??


Why don't you eat one of those cookies and see for yourself. It's only MJ. Wink Cheesy
12  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Cswol kept his promess - He is shredded. on: July 13, 2014, 09:31:44 PM
He does have tiny pupils like shockwave said. I'm no expert in this area but he must be on some
hard drugs to lose this much weight.

He was always crazy. Some guys may remember from the Musclemayhem days when he got pissed off with Cutler's boyfriend Madmax over something said on the forum and went over to Max's store high on something. Also kicked out of Gold's Venice etc.

Some idiots told him he could compete at 250lbs, supposedly Cormier and Charles Glass told him this. He would never have been over 180lbs even with all the steroids and gh in the world.

Arce said Cswole did 2 grams of test PER DAY for a year straight. That's crazy. Cheesy
13  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Evan Centopani leaves Universal for Prime Nutrition on: July 09, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
Those guys must have a serious setup in China producing all their designer-steroid powders etc. to be supplying a popular retail brand like Blackstone labs.

If they can produce large amounts of pure "designer steroids" and "pro hormones" they can produce pure pharma grade shit like Anavar, Dbol, Primo, all the good shit too...With an ever so sliiiight disregard for the law.

If I was a pro bodybuilder I would see this as a huge contributing factor in this relationship.

Solid business men (Drug dealers) are a pro's BEST FRIEND. Hell more like only friend..

Yeah one might suspect that a company such as this was simply a front for illegal drug sales.
I don't know if it's true that as you say that this black stone labs is connected to Prime, but if it is then they are already in the illegal hormone market. It is not legal to sell these designer steroids (ask Rick Collins). It's certainly true that if they can get these designers into the country then they can get everything else too, the more explicitly banned hormones.

But I'm just wildly speculating here, I have no insight into this particular company. Cool
It's true that most legal supplement companies were started with proceeds from drug sales.
14  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Some pics of OneMoreRep on: July 09, 2014, 09:04:49 PM
OMR said his pics have been posted here many times. Been here over a decade and can't remember seeing any.
15  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: For the love of god everyone please answer on: July 03, 2014, 10:02:55 PM
I was on 2-7g's with both my kids (both boys, btw). each came after doing 2 5000iu hcg doses 7 days apart. (both were "oh shit, I forgot fertility is a side effect of HCG" haha..)

I wonder if the HCG had anything to do with the fertility though, if you were infertile in the first place. I remember reading stuff like this. Seems to take a while to work. IIRC Dustin from this forum had some problems and it took a while until he recovered.

Mills and associates evaluated the recovery of spermatogenesis after exogenous testosterone administration in of 26 men with a recent history of anabolic steroid use (13). All discontinued exogenous testosterone usage and were treated with hCG 3,000 units IM every other day for a minimum of 3 months. Of the two men who remained azoospermic, one had insufficient follow-up and the other was suspected of continued anabolic steroid use. Men using intramuscular testosterone at the time of presentation recovered spermatogenesis in an average of 3.1 months. However, men receiving transdermal testosterone supplementation at the time of presentation took an average of 7.4 months. The authors concluded that impairment of fertility following TRT suppression is reversible and that the rate of sperm may be related to the delivery system.
16  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Epistane on: July 03, 2014, 09:45:42 PM
there's a lot of variables.

I use mixing containers that I know don't let product stick to the sides, and for MT I only trust PEG300 (no Orasweet or Humco.. and I never use oil for anything oral, as some do) as the solvent/carrier for uniform concentration. I start with a high concentration like 10mg/ml and step down to 1mg/ml to hold in stock, then to fill orders it's 15ml of 1mg/ml and 15ml of empty peg300.

PEG tastes like shit, but at least it's a reliable and consistent carrier. I prefer PEG for everything. it costs more than alcohol, but it's worth the trade off in a quality product.. and if you're doing volume, the extra cost is a drop in the bucket.

Alright, thanks.
17  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Gym goals on: July 03, 2014, 07:08:55 PM
cyclists have massive thighs.

muscular recruitment isn't necessary to run great distances. however it is necessary to cycle at great speed over short or long distance.
Cyclist have periods of time where they sprint and up hill as well. Either way breaking down a fiber and making the muscle sore or burn in a set does not = muscle growth

Cyclist with big thighs. Big thighs = strong. As much as everyone seems to deny it, there's a direct correlation between size and strength. It's not the whole story but still. No Tour The France cyclist can squat this poundage. Why? They don't have the size.

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18  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: Epistane on: July 03, 2014, 06:53:41 PM

Hey ESFitness I'm curious about something. Since you brew powders, how accurate do you think you can get a solution of MT as far as dosage is concerned? I mean we are talking about microgram or low milligram doses. I will never brew anything but I'm just curious how you go about it, same would be if putting T3 or clen in solution, must be hard to do accurately as a homebrewer?
19  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: So apparently every douche bag, at every gym, is currently on Anavar on: July 03, 2014, 06:47:48 PM
How many here have experienced stomach pains or nausea from Anavar?
20  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Has anyone tried the new "WEIDER - Total Rush" already? on: July 03, 2014, 06:44:14 PM
The first clip is not on the Team Andro channel. It is on youtube:

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haha those weights don't look fake at all. Roll Eyes Cheesy
21  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Are All Calories Equal? - The Calorie Myth w/ Jonathan Bailor on: July 03, 2014, 06:20:53 PM
I saw on FB (I "follow" Alan Aragon and Lyle McDonald) and saw something about the vid
being pulled because it was full of shit. I didn't care enough to watch it but if Alan and Lyle say it's shit it's pretty safe to say it's shit. Cheesy
22  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Early Morning Fasted Cardio on: July 01, 2014, 10:04:24 PM
What Mawse said about OCD rituals is correct. Whatever helps you stick to a routine.
It's unlikely it makes a difference in the end.

I remember hearing one old-school euro "legend" competitor preach about the importance of eating bananas before cardio. Cheesy
23  Getbig Main Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Bostin Lloyd will not recover on: June 30, 2014, 08:26:31 AM
How did that pic end up on the internet? By mistake somehow or what?
24  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: anadrol. on: June 24, 2014, 07:18:04 PM
It's no myth. The point I'm trying to make is that the over whelming amount of steroids sold in the black market is counterfeit from Chinese origin. It is not the same compound sold out of pharmacies that came from legit American pharmaceutical companies in the past. The Chinese boxes, insert and containers are counterfeit and what is labeled as Anadrol is not Anadrol. No wonder bodybuilders today look like bloated ill looking crap.  I really don't know how any guy with any sanity could pop a pill or inject anything knowing there is a possibility that it came from China.

Counterfeit means you take an existing product and make an identical looking copy, with or without the correct ingredients. A counterfeiter out of China could make a counterfeit drug that even the legit company has trouble identifying as a counterfeit, including having the correct dosage of the correct drug in the product. But I doubt there is any counterfeit American Anadrol-50 on the market, for various reasons. The Chinese "Anadrols" may look shitty with cheap packaging, or may look professional (with whatever UG lab name on the bottle/box), may be in powder form, but in either case it can be quality hormones. There are some shitty products sold on the black market for sure but there is legit hormone too no doubt.

If you think bodybuilders are only using "testosterone tablets", with the way they are looking nowadays, well I don't know what to say.

25  Getbig Bodybuilding Boards / Steroids Info & Hardcore / Re: anadrol. on: June 22, 2014, 11:39:37 PM
Ok, let's REALLY think about this. You're almost my age, you don't compete or have any plans to compete. It's probably the most powerful androgen out there. So here's the question. Why? Pure narcissism?

Why have you entertained competing again every now and then? Bodybuilding is pure narcissism for everyone, including you.

Yes it's powerful in a way, but in another way not really. It comes in a 50mg tablet. What other oral comes in a 50mg tab? Winstrol was 2-5mg, Anavar 2.5mg (later on there came a 20mg tablet), dbol was 5mg (10 times less than Anadrol!). It's fairly weak per mg.

That said, I think it's probably the best oral for contest prep for many. There's still this belief that Anadrol is an off-season drug in some circles. You know, Winstrol and Anavar for cuts, Anadrol and Dbol for bulk. Cheesy
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