How was Ronnie not meticulous with his nutrition or training? His diet was similar to all the other bodybuilders you mentioned. The lone difference may be VOLUME. Ronnie didn't eat just 2 or 3 chicken breasts. The ENTIRE surface area of his place was covered in chicken (tenderloins, from all appearances). He had one separate plate for meat and another for his carbs.
BTW, Jay Cutler had TWO nutritionists throughout his career: Hany Rambod and Chris Aceto. Does that make Jay DUMB? Was Jay "just doing as told" or a "big f-----g moron"?
And knowing nothing about training? You can't be serious!! This man is repping with weights that are maxes for most IFBB pros. Try 200-lb dumbbell presses with near perfect form....THAT'S A SHAWN RAY IN EACH HAND!! 
Being DUMB is knowing you need help but not getting it. Ronnie Coleman was anything but that. One could argue that Shawn Ray was "DUMB", because he was told how he needed to improve but didn't do it until it was too late. Had he competed at 210 or so in the early 90s, instead of waiting until the late 90s and 2000s to do so), he would have beaten Yates (especially in 1994 when Yates looked relatively awful) for a Sandow.
You misread my whole entire post
How’s ronnie these days compared to the rest? Hows Jay doing, how’s Dorian doing? Etc
Like I said Ronnie was told what to do and he just did it, doesn’t mean he knew what he was putting in his body, if Chad said take this, he took it, eat this, he ate it
He was blessed with elite genetics that was out of his control, he had nothing to do with that part
Shawn was too small, he said himself he looked his best around 205-210, nothing else he could have done, he tried going up in weight, even doing the more than one show a year which was the Arnold and didn’t do well, and no , he wouldn’t have beaten Yates.
Bottom line, Shawn was too small and didn’t have the genetics for the “mass monster era” to win , nothing to do with his knowledge
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