Did ACH say he himself was also hormone free?

Seems ACH wasn't exactly saying Doug was a nattie, at least in that post, just ridiculing those who "cared." I hate this "money justifies anything" attitude. I really wonder if I have autism because honesty is so important to me

There was never any effective drug testing in any bodybuilding federation, ever. Testing effectively is extremely expensive, there simply never was a way to enforce the rules. If urine samples were given I think they were mostly poured down the drain, it was just for show.

This whole nattie thing was ridiculous on its face from the start anyway. Even without actual banned hormones basically all competitive bodybuilders down tons of synthetic potions. The "natties" probably overall took more drug-like compounds than the actual juicers.

The point is you're wrong. Especially when they are paying or giving gifts to anyone on the streets to fill out and sign ballots. 
Now let's see what a federal investigation will uncover.

  No, I discontinued those, this one is much more fun. how are you liking the rising prices for everything. why did you troll my threads. Isn't that being somewhat hypocritical?? Hmmm. How you've been lately health wise ? are you keeping up with your training ? Hope you are well.

Funk why are trolling this thread.

Don't you have your own somewhere?