Elton John: 'I would ban religion completely'

[Dos Equis]

Elton John: 'I would ban religion completely'
POSTED: 8:59 a.m. EST, November 13, 2006

LONDON, England (AP) -- Organized religion fuels anti-gay discrimination and other forms of bias, pop star Elton John said in an interview published Saturday.

"I think religion has always tried to turn hatred toward gay people," John said in the Observer newspaper's Music Monthly Magazine. "Religion promotes the hatred and spite against gays."

"But there are so many people I know who are gay and love their religion," he said. "From my point of view, I would ban religion completely. Organized religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into really hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate."

John also criticized religious leaders for failing to do anything about conflicts around the world.

"Why aren't they having a conclave? Why aren't they coming together?"

John said those in his own field have been similarly lax.

"It's like the peace movement in the '60s. Musicians got through to people by getting out there and doing peace concerts, but we don't seem to do them any more," he said. "If John Lennon were alive today, he'd be leading it with a vengeance."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/13/britain.eltonjohn.ap/index.html

[Colossus_500]

I guess Elton John doesn't know about the plethora of outreach ministries such as Love Won Out (lovewonout.com)or Exodus International (exodus-international.org)?   

Here's a letter written from a gay advocate to James Dobson.  Dr. Dobson's responds to him.

http://family.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/family.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1225

[Dos Equis]

I guess Elton John doesn't know about the plethora of outreach ministries such as Love Won Out (lovewonout.com)or Exodus International (exodus-international.org)?   

Here's a letter written from a gay advocate to James Dobson.  Dr. Dobson's responds to him.

http://family.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/family.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1225

Thanks for posting this Colossus.  I couldn't remember the name of the organization that helps people trying to leave the homosexual lifestyle. 

I also read the letters to and from Dobson.  Powerful.  I particularly like this excerpt:

"Let me simply say that the same Scriptures that condemn homosexuality and premarital heterosexuality also tell us to accept those who are in violation of these ordinances. Jesus was more compassionate toward the woman caught in the very act of intercourse -- a capital offense in those days -- than He was toward the hypocrites in the church. This is our model and our mandate."

 

[Colossus_500]

I also read the letters to and from Dobson.  Powerful.  I particularly like this excerpt:

"Let me simply say that the same Scriptures that condemn homosexuality and premarital heterosexuality also tell us to accept those who are in violation of these ordinances. Jesus was more compassionate toward the woman caught in the very act of intercourse -- a capital offense in those days -- than He was toward the hypocrites in the church. This is our model and our mandate."
 

Yep.  That was very powerful. 

[JasonH]

For once I am in complete agreement with Elton John - I can see exactly where he's coming from and although I am not homosexual, I can certainly see that this is one reason why organised religion should be banned.

[Bigger Business]

why is sex condemned by the church?

it dosnt mean shit...just a coupla peeps gettin freaky not hurtin anyone

whats wrong with that?

[Colossus_500]

why is sex condemned by the church?

it dosnt mean shit...just a coupla peeps gettin freaky not hurtin anyone

whats wrong with that?

Sex isn't condemned by the church.  Where did you read this?

[mightymouse72]

For once I am in complete agreement with Elton John - I can see exactly where he's coming from and although I am not homosexual, I can certainly see that this is one reason why organised religion should be banned.

it's views like yours that is the downfall of our nation.

[Bigger Business]

Sex isn't condemned by the church.  Where did you read this?

no sex before marriage, no gay sex, no getting it on with your bored housewife neighbor, no group action, no head

am i wrong?

[mightymouse72]

no sex before marriage, no gay sex, no getting it on with your bored housewife neighbor, no group action, no head

am i wrong?

as fun as all that sounds, i'll have to say yes, you are wrong

[Bigger Business]

as fun as all that sounds, i'll have to say yes, you are wrong

so by wrong youre saying Im right?

[mightymouse72]

so by wrong youre saying Im right?

    

no you are not right.

[Bigger Business]

so all these things are cool then...

sex before marriage, gay sex, getting it on with your bored housewife neighbor, group action, head?

[mightymouse72]

so all these things are cool then...

sex before marriage, gay sex, getting it on with your bored housewife neighbor, group action, head?

sounds like someone has a busy day ahead.  don't let me hold you up.   

you know what i meant BB.
a sin is a sin.  God does not label sins, man does.
 

[Bigger Business]

sounds like someone has a busy day ahead.  don't let me hold you up.   

lol not bloody likely...for all my negativity toward religion, I'm by no means promiscuous

[Dos Equis]

no sex before marriage, no gay sex, no getting it on with your bored housewife neighbor, no group action, no head

am i wrong?

Your initial statement is wrong:  sex is not condemned by the church.  In the religious context, husbands and wives can and should have all the sex they want.  Sex was God's gift to Adam and Eve.   

[mightymouse72]

Your initial statement is wrong:  sex is not condemned by the church.  In the religious context, husbands and wives can and should have all the sex they want.  Sex was God's gift to Adam and Eve.   

thank you.

and what a gift it was!!!