Does this natural BB have gyno IYO?

[Van_Bilderass]

Okay, here's the thing: this is a guy who Layne Norton swore was a lifetime natural on the MD forums. I take a look, and what do you know, dude has gyno. So I'd like to get some opinions over here if you can see what I see. Look at the right nipple area especially, the gyno lump is a bit smaller on his left side in this pic.
See his other pics as well:
http://www.kurtweidner.net

[dr.chimps]

Man, his legs look like Foghorn Leghorn's when he got all the feathers blown off of them. 

[tomr1976]

Man, his legs look like Foghorn Leghorn's when he got all the feathers blown off of them. 

Well waddaya expect, he's all natural... 

[youandme]

The guy in your picture you posted has gyno

[Jerryme7]

Yup thats gyno....it doesnt really mean that he isnt natural.

My gyno came about during puberty

[Van_Bilderass]

Yup thats gyno....it doesnt really mean that he isnt natural.

My gyno came about during puberty

Sure, it's possible that there is some other cause. However, I'd say most of the time pubertal gyno is a bit different, the steroid induced gyno is hard fibrous tissue that persists even when you diet down to extremely lean states. Like on this guy.

[BayGBM]

60% of men have some form of gyno.  Half during puberty and the other half later in life.  If you’re looking for evidence of drug use, you need more data.

[MisterMagoo]

Sure, it's possible that there is some other cause. However, I'd say most of the time pubertal gyno is a bit different, the steroid induced gyno is hard fibrous tissue that persists even when you diet down to extremely lean states. Like on this guy.

someone on another board with some medical background (i have no memory who) said that you'd be surprised how many people have gyno naturally, but since you have to get very lean to see it you can't tell.

[Van_Bilderass]

60% of men have some form of gyno.  Half during puberty and the other half later in life.  If you’re looking for evidence of drug use, you need more data.

Steroid induced looks different though. 'Man-boobs' that you can view on plastic surgeon websites look very different, usually the guys aren't very lean otherwise. Like I said, you get like a 'disc' of hard fibrous tissue with a defined edge that can be seen when extremely lean.

[Van_Bilderass]

Here's an example that is way more obvious. You just didn't see gyno formation like this in the pre-steroid era or even early steroid era. It's not "puffy nipples" or fatty breasts, it's hard fibrous tissue that pretty much only occurs with the use of hormones.

[chris_mason]

Van is correct.  There is a big difference.  That guy has steroid induced gyno in my educated opinion.  

[Jerryme7]

Van Bilder...I have actual gyno from puberty..the hard fibrous type that needs to be taken out by surgery.

Ive gotten it without the use of steriods or any andro products....its just a by product of puberty

Mine is aout the size of a button. I actually can feel the hard lump and some fat deposits..

I really need to start saving for surgery which is going to be expensive

[chris_mason]

Van Bilder...I have actual gyno from puberty..the hard fibrous type that needs to be taken out by surgery.

Ive gotten it without the use of steriods or any andro products....its just a by product of puberty

Mine is aout the size of a button. I actually can feel the hard lump and some fat deposits..

I really need to start saving for surgery which is going to be expensive

Jerryme7, how old are you?

[Jerryme7]

Im 31

[GoneAway]

Looks like gyno, but his physique looks natural.

[DIVISION]

Okay, here's the thing: this is a guy who Layne Norton swore was a lifetime natural on the MD forums. I take a look, and what do you know, dude has gyno. So I'd like to get some opinions over here if you can see what I see. Look at the right nipple area especially, the gyno lump is a bit smaller on his left side in this pic.
See his other pics as well:
http://www.kurtweidner.net

Bildernugga,

He may very well be "natural" in terms of AAS, but he has probably used pro-hormones which account for the possible gynomastia.

Either way, he lost out because he got the gyno without the benefit of the lbm gains that come with AAS.

Some people will never understand...

You either play the game right or you stay away from it completely.

Pro-hormones are an absolute waste of money.



DIV

[Van_Bilderass]

Bildernugga,

He may very well be "natural" in terms of AAS, but he has probably used pro-hormones which account for the possible gynomastia.

Either way, he lost out because he got the gyno without the benefit of the lbm gains that come with AAS.

Some people will never understand...

You either play the game right or you stay away from it completely.

Pro-hormones are an absolute waste of money.



DIV

Yeah that's possible, though I'm sure he would deny even that.

Some of those previously OTC hormones like Superdrol and M1T are appearing on many steroid dealer lists nowadays. I haven't used them but by all accounts they are quite potent. I remember even Disgusted said on Mayhem M1T was strong as hell, though quite a miserable experience to use.

[Adam Empire]

Man, his legs look like Foghorn Leghorn's when he got all the feathers blown off of them. 

LOL!

[flexingtonsteele]

1. Awesome conditioning

2. Super bad structure

3. He has Gyno, no doubt