Garreth, not trying to attack you with this, just sticking in my rant on trans fats, do you know how fucking positively evil these trans fats are? The problem I see is that if you want to remove them from your diet, it's only possbile if you remove restaurants from your diet completely. These things were only made so company's could have a longer shelf for their products. Your body doesn't break it down good so it comes with all kinds of problems. I know someone who has to have two trans fat tumor deposits removed from his arm. they're big distgusting looking hard nodules that turned out to be deposits of this shit The stuff is completely not natural, not a natural occurring fat, it's manmade. In this case the companies glommed onto something that had every benefit for their bottom line but not one benefit for the consumer. Adonis has some crazy page that he says shows all this is a bad rap but I have a real hard time pitting that page of crap against all the bad shit pouring out on trans fats. Nasty.