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Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« on: December 23, 2006, 05:43:05 AM »
I've heard that it's not a good idea to take Nolva thru-out a cycle, but some have advised taking AI at 1-0.5mg ED thru-out a cycle
your ideas or experiences with this?
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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2006, 09:58:15 AM »
I take .5 of Adex throughout my cycle.
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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2006, 11:13:09 AM »
I usually take 0.5-1mg of Adex Monday, Wednesday, & Friday when on cycle.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2006, 12:28:34 PM »
I will not run a cycle without it.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2006, 06:38:22 AM »
Agreed with AJ.  I run adex at .5 eod.  The dosage really depends on the dosage of the androgens in your cycle.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2006, 10:08:52 AM »
I've heard that it's not a good idea to take Nolva thru-out a cycle, but some have advised taking AI at 1-0.5mg ED thru-out a cycle
your ideas or experiences with this?
if you're a newb running 500mg-1g ew, no.  have some on hand just in case, but run in throughout? no, that's retarded. will only hurt your gains. unless you're hyper-hyper-sensitive to deveoping gyno or a fag who doesnt want any water retention, it's stupid. adex even at low doses kills too much estrogen, estrogen is not bad. 

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2006, 10:27:14 AM »
if you're a newb running 500mg-1g ew, no.  have some on hand just in case, but run in throughout? no, that's retarded. will only hurt your gains. unless you're hyper-hyper-sensitive to deveoping gyno or a fag who doesnt want any water retention, it's stupid. adex even at low doses kills too much estrogen, estrogen is not bad. 
Arimidex does not kill estrogen, it simply blocks the aromatase enzyme, but not every last bit of it...if you took enough I guess you could suppress all of it, but that would take a lot. Second point, it will not hurt your gains, if anything it will help them. First off, when you become overly bloated, this often leads to a lethargic feeling...that's bad for training. Second, arimidex has been found to help you get more out of your test, making it more, for lack of a better word "potent." Last off, why wait to see if you're going to get gyno? Why not prevent it from the onset?

As far as hindering gains, maybe you're thinking of the old argument against running nolvadex during a cycle...some say this will hinder your progress. I'm not 100% certain of that, but it doesn't matter, because arimidex should be used instead.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2006, 12:34:15 PM »
Arimidex does not kill estrogen, it simply blocks the aromatase enzyme, but not every last bit of it...if you took enough I guess you could suppress all of it, but that would take a lot. Second point, it will not hurt your gains, if anything it will help them. First off, when you become overly bloated, this often leads to a lethargic feeling...that's bad for training. Second, arimidex has been found to help you get more out of your test, making it more, for lack of a better word "potent." Last off, why wait to see if you're going to get gyno? Why not prevent it from the onset?

As far as hindering gains, maybe you're thinking of the old argument against running nolvadex during a cycle...some say this will hinder your progress. I'm not 100% certain of that, but it doesn't matter, because arimidex should be used instead.
key word 'too much', kills too much estrogen, weakens bones, bad on your lipid profile, joint pain, does hurt gains, not help them.  gyno is easily preventable without running AIs nonstop through your guys newb cycles, just have ancillaries on hand.

all in all, aromasin is a much better choice than adex.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2006, 01:38:26 PM »
key word 'too much', kills too much estrogen, weakens bones, bad on your lipid profile, joint pain, does hurt gains, not help them.  gyno is easily preventable without running AIs nonstop through your guys newb cycles, just have ancillaries on hand.

all in all, aromasin is a much better choice than adex.
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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2006, 02:03:12 PM »
How do you figure?

I would like to know as well.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2006, 02:04:04 PM »
I personally run it for most of my cycle to minimize water retention.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2006, 02:05:01 PM »
key word 'too much', kills too much estrogen, weakens bones, bad on your lipid profile, joint pain, does hurt gains, not help them.  gyno is easily preventable without running AIs nonstop through your guys newb cycles, just have ancillaries on hand.

all in all, aromasin is a much better choice than adex.

Sorry that we don't all run 2000-4000mg of Test a week like you.  ::)

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2006, 02:08:35 PM »
I personally run it for most of my cycle to minimize water retention.
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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2006, 06:12:07 PM »
I've heard that it's not a good idea to take Nolva thru-out a cycle, but some have advised taking AI at 1-0.5mg ED thru-out a cycle
your ideas or experiences with this?

Depends on how heavy the cycle is and if you are using highly aromatizing AAS.

Nolvadex is fine on a light cycle.




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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2006, 08:51:16 AM »
letro anyone?

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2006, 12:10:10 PM »
Arimidex does not kill estrogen, it simply blocks the aromatase enzyme, but not every last bit of it...if you took enough I guess you could suppress all of it, but that would take a lot. Second point, it will not hurt your gains, if anything it will help them. First off, when you become overly bloated, this often leads to a lethargic feeling...that's bad for training. Second, arimidex has been found to help you get more out of your test, making it more, for lack of a better word "potent." Last off, why wait to see if you're going to get gyno? Why not prevent it from the onset?

As far as hindering gains, maybe you're thinking of the old argument against running nolvadex during a cycle...some say this will hinder your progress. I'm not 100% certain of that, but it doesn't matter, because arimidex should be used instead.

Good post...

Adex in normal use will reduce estrogen by 40-80% at the most...it will NOT eliminate it from your body. some estrogen is good as has been stated.

aromasin is not a bad choice either but i find arimidex works much better IMO.

i run long cycles so i use .5mg every mon/wed/fri during the last HALF of the cycle and i also start using HCG at this point. so the first half of my cycles are just juice.

I have taken cycles without adex and with adex...the only difference was less water retention and i had more energy while using adex so i keep it in there.

just my opinion because there is no paper proof that arimidex is good or bad in any way. the people who trash it usually have never used it and have no idea what they are talking about. notice there aren't any documented studies for reference.

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2006, 03:29:32 PM »
I just got an email concerning this from Anthony, here is what he said.

"Aromasin is nowhere near as good as Arimidex...

And your comment that you can take enough A-dex to kill estro isn't
correct, actually....

up to 10mgs (!) still isn't enough...there seems to be a cut off
point....as a case in point, .5mgs/day of adex is basically as good
as 10mgs/day, according to the research....

SO it's my assessment that there is a huge drop off past the
minimally effective dose...

100mcg/day of letro basically gets your estrogen to nothing, the
same as 2.5mgs/day....

There's this totally low cut off point for AI's...

Also...people don't seem to catch this one in that thread...but
Nolva increases estrogen, it doesn't lower it..."

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2006, 03:32:43 PM »
Very good information...

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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2006, 04:52:50 PM »
I just got an email concerning this from Anthony, here is what he said.

"Aromasin is nowhere near as good as Arimidex...

And your comment that you can take enough A-dex to kill estro isn't
correct, actually....

up to 10mgs (!) still isn't enough...there seems to be a cut off
point....as a case in point, .5mgs/day of adex is basically as good
as 10mgs/day, according to the research....

SO it's my assessment that there is a huge drop off past the
minimally effective dose...

100mcg/day of letro basically gets your estrogen to nothing, the
same as 2.5mgs/day....

There's this totally low cut off point for AI's...

Also...people don't seem to catch this one in that thread...but
Nolva increases estrogen, it doesn't lower it..."


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Re: Arimidex thru-out cycle?
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2006, 06:35:08 AM »
Shit...I was just about to reply...

Aromasin is a horrible substitute for Arimidex, is the point I was making...

I've never found it to reverse gyno, in anyone who I've worked with. Letro is good for reversing gyno.

Personally, I use .5mgs of Arimidex per day with my cycles. .5mgs/day is just as good as 1mg/day (studies have shown this to be true), and I've seen studies going up to 10mgs/day where there's not much improvement over .5mgs/day....some studies even show 5mgs/day of Nolvadex being as good as 20. All of that really leads me to believe that the drop off point for anti-estrogens is pretty severe, and occurs at a pretty low dose.