good ol t3, well that shit you definately wanna pyramid, slowly increase the doses and slowly decrease when coming down. Something like this, 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,3,3,3,3,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1 and so forth, as far as phentramine im sure what that is, been out of the game for awhile