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Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« on: January 09, 2007, 09:43:30 AM »
In the release by Monster Barbell Company yesterday, it says (among other things) that "Shawn Ray will be inducted into the IFBB Bodybuilding Hall of Fame this year."  In related news, Mark McGwire will likely not be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame today.  Both competitors had very successful professional careers.  One man failed a drug test administered during one of his major competitions and the other guy never failed a drug test. One man admits to having using steroids throughout his professional career and the other guy has chosen to stay silent on the subject (though there's strong speculation that he also was a steroid user.)  One man will be going to the Hall of Fame this year, the other guy ain't.  What does this teach the kids of America and around the world?
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 09:45:43 AM »
Dahhhhh, Just say No? :-[
My career wasn't made for "Teaching Kids"
How many Kids do you know that I competed against and of them, how many were Drug Free. :-\
I'd like to thank The Academy and all those who voted for me.  ;D
Thank you Flex Magazine and Editor, Peter McGough & Joe Weider for the Hall of Fame Induction spread in the latest Flex magazine with Arnold on the cover.
Peace,
Shawn
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 09:48:09 AM »
Completely different.  In bodybuilding, everyone is juice to the gills.  In baseball, just 40%.  So, one is an even playing field, while the other is not.
They shouldn't let McGwire in the Hall of Fame.  What a cheating douchebag.  Monster integrity man!
"I'm not here to talk about the past."  Ok Mark, sounds good, and we're here to tell you the Hall is not in your future.  Get some balls man.
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 09:49:47 AM »
Quote from: Shawn Ray on January 09, 2007, 09:45:43 AM
Dahhhhh, Just say No? :-[
My career wasn't made for "Teaching Kids"
How many Kids do you know that I competed against and of them, how many were Drug Free. :-\


There was one guy you used to compete against that claimed natural status, Mike Ashley was it?  Your thoughts?
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 09:51:16 AM »
This guy,Paul Jean-Guillame , was supposed to be a natural as well.

Your thoughts?
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 09:52:00 AM »
Quote from: Croatch on January 09, 2007, 09:48:09 AM
Completely different.  In bodybuilding, everyone is juice to the gills.  In baseball, just 40%.  So, one is an even playing field, while the other is not.

Can't argue with that though it's funny how using steroids is against the IFBB rules, whereas using steroids was not against MLB's rules during the time that McGwire played.
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 10:00:19 AM »
Quote from: Croatch on January 09, 2007, 09:48:09 AM
Completely different.  In bodybuilding, everyone is juice to the gills.  In baseball, just 75%. 


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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 10:03:58 AM »
Quote from: Croatch on January 09, 2007, 09:48:09 AM
Completely different.  In bodybuilding, everyone is juice to the gills.  In baseball, just 40%.  So, one is an even playing field, while the other is not.
They shouldn't let McGwire in the Hall of Fame.  What a cheating douchebag.  Monster integrity man!
"I'm not here to talk about the past."  Ok Mark, sounds good, and we're here to tell you the Hall is not in your future.  Get some balls man.

Even though we (I) know he probably did take something, there has been no proof and if you don't think that baseball isn't on a even playing field, thats being naive about the goings on in the sport!!
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 10:16:19 AM »
Who gives a shit about a level playing field anyway.  Unless everyone is born with identical genetics, there's no TRULY level playing field.  That's just life.

If someone wants to take some juice to hit a few more homeruns, so be it.  If he wants to smoke a cigarette to calm his nerves or drink a beer before bed, so be it.
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2007, 10:55:32 AM »
WHere is the BB Hall of Fame.  Is it a place where there are tourists and people paying to walk through it like at Canton or Cooperstown.  Just wondering.  Or is it in a spare room in Weiders house. 
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 11:02:50 AM »
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Who gives a shit about a level playing field anyway.  Unless everyone is born with identical genetics, there's no TRULY level playing field.  That's just life.

If someone wants to take some juice to hit a few more homeruns, so be it.  If he wants to smoke a cigarette to calm his nerves or drink a beer before bed, so be it.
Nothing wrong with professional athletes juicing, if they all do.  It's a level playing field if everyone sticks to the same rules.  That's like me playing MLB and saying, "Frank Thomas is so much bigger than me, I'll never hit that many home runs."  Then I juice like a fag cause I have no heart or belief in my own abilities.  That shit is for weak people man.  Then again, with millions at stake, it's understandable...but in the end, they are looked down upon by society, but then again, who really cares what society thinks...ahahha
In the end, it's how you feel about what you do in life, nothing else.
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2007, 11:19:44 AM »
It's all about the money.  If baseball players only made 50 grand a year, no one would bother juicing.

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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2007, 11:32:37 AM »
Quote from: anvil on January 09, 2007, 11:19:44 AM
It's all about the money.  If baseball players only made 50 grand a year, no one would bother juicing.


how much is the average professional bodybuilder making a year?
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2007, 11:57:27 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 09, 2007, 09:49:47 AM
There was one guy you used to compete against that claimed natural status, Mike Ashley was it?  Your thoughts?

LOL!!! ahahahahahaha!  What a joke!  Mike Ashley probably STILL isn't natural!  I saw him in the late 90's in Vegas training at the LVAC and he was obviously juiced to the gills and large as a mofo!  Strong as an ox too!  Hope this helps... ;)
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2007, 11:59:16 AM »
Quote from: tom joad on January 09, 2007, 11:32:37 AM
how much is the average professional bodybuilder making a year?

Maybe 50 grand  ;D

Damn, maybe ya have to have a mental disorder (or two) to want to be a pro bodybuilder.  All risk and no gain.



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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2007, 12:00:25 PM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 09, 2007, 09:51:16 AM
This guy,Paul Jean-Guillame , was supposed to be a natural as well.

Your thoughts?

All drugs...na im playing. I actually think that i could make it pro or atleast a top tier NPC with out drugs..But im genetically blessed.
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2007, 12:05:45 PM »
Shawn...if u care ...u are/where the real deal when it comes to bodybuilding
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2007, 12:29:13 PM »
Thanks, i feel better now ;D
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2007, 01:11:27 PM »
Quote from: anvil on January 09, 2007, 11:59:16 AM
Maybe 50 grand  ;D

Damn, maybe ya have to have a mental disorder (or two) to want to be a pro bodybuilder.  All risk and no gain.





No way.  On the average?  I bet less than 20% of them make this much including sponsorships and prize money.
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2007, 01:13:43 PM »
Quote from: onlyme on January 09, 2007, 01:11:27 PM
No way.  On the average?  I bet less than 20% of them make this much including sponsorships and prize money.

I was just making a joke in reference to the baseball post, a couple of posts above
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Re: Will Shawn Ray suffer the same fate as Mark McGwire?
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2007, 01:16:37 PM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 09, 2007, 09:49:47 AM
There was one guy you used to compete against that claimed natural status, Mike Ashley was it?  Your thoughts?

Like you said---he claimed..  And if he was, so what---who really cares besides you...  Derek Anthony doesn't...
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