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Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« on: January 11, 2007, 10:22:41 PM »
There are quite a few karate fighters competing in the highest levels of martial arts. Some you might not be aware of:

Bas Rutten - 2nd degree TKD, 4th degree Kyokushin, UFC champion, King of Pancrase
Andy Hug - Kyokushinkai, K-1 champion (now deceased)
Georges St. Pierre - kyokushinkai, UFC champion
Semmy Schilt - Wado-Ryo Karate, K-1 champion
Jerome Lebanner - Kyokushin Karate
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2007, 10:30:22 PM »
What the fuck does this have to do with bodybuilding? But yes, Karate guys have more than held their own in K1.

RIP Andy Hug!
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2007, 10:31:23 PM »
I thought I posted this in MMA. My bad.
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2007, 09:14:19 AM »
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2007, 09:15:16 AM »
yes and when they give up karate and start do some other training thats when things starts to happen!
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2007, 09:18:00 AM »
Karate and MMA are all overratted...


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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2007, 09:34:02 AM »
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters have a black belt.

Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.

Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?

Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2007, 09:41:07 AM »
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2007, 09:43:08 AM »
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 09:43:48 AM »
Quote from: danielson on January 12, 2007, 09:43:08 AM
It's not that funny really.

Yes it is. Anything Rutten is funny.
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2007, 10:33:07 AM »
From 40+ years of experience as a martial-artist, the ONLY thing a black belt is good for is to "hold up your pants"!!! 

Truer words were never spoken by the great Bruce Lee!!

Achieving a first-degree-black-belt/Shodan rank (gee, I've gotten several) is like getting an undergraduate college degree...it depends on where you got it and what you can do with it after you get it THAT REALLY COUNTS!!!

Over the years of my MA training, I've seen unbelievable variability (!) in the standards for awarding an MA student a first-degree black belt in the hard arts...e.g. in one school, you had to train only 4 hours a week for 2 years and pass their exams...in another, a minimum of 1000 hrs. of training, plus pass their exams...and, if I recall correctly, the great Joe Lewis would award you one if you could last 3 rounds with him in the kickboxing ring, etc.

And, I've seen/heard-of several "black belts" who got their butt kicked in a REAL (street) fight...myself included!

However, the REAL MEN that compete in the professional kickboxing/MMA arena...Pride, UFC, K-1, King of the Cage, Muay Thai, etc...are TRUE WARRIORS and I SALUTE ALL of them...regardless of their ever being awarded a "black belt"!!!

 
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2007, 02:02:44 PM »
Marcelo Tigre is purple level BJJ skills, but is one tough mofo who can scrap with the best of them. 
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2007, 05:39:42 PM »
That's why all these top fighters spent up to 6 years of training earning black belts in Karate.  ::)
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2007, 11:55:18 PM »
 BAS AND MARCO (RUAS)...ARE BOTH YUDANJA (DANS) IN TKD...
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2007, 02:53:55 AM »
to get your Shodan in my class you have to train for a minimum 5 years, Kawasoe Sensei doesnt like it if you try after 3-4 years as he believes that no matter how good you are - youre not ready. He is old school, a real Shotokan hardcore who dedicated his whole life to it. Enoeda was along the same lines and Frank Brennan just scared the shit out of me ha ha
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2007, 03:19:48 AM »
Quote from: SquatAss on January 12, 2007, 09:34:02 AM
Bas Rutten: He has a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

Stephen Quadros: Yes, well many of the fighters have a black belt.

Bas Rutten: Yes, but in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you cant buy your belt like in say, Tae Kwon Do.

Stephen Quadros: Do you have any belts?

Bas Rutten: I have a brown belt in Tae Kwon Do.

I can see Bas saying that w/ a perfectly straight face... ;D
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2007, 07:33:03 AM »
Quote from: realkarateblackbelt on January 12, 2007, 05:39:42 PM
That's why all these top fighters spent up to 6 years of training earning black belts in Karate.  ::)

And then they figure out like i did, that it's fuckin useless in a real fight! and start taking other things!
Anyones who's been in a honest to goodness street fight, knows karate is not the way to go unless heavily modified. Basically you'd have to change it so much it wouldn't be karate anymore lol
Also I droped a 4th degree black belt with one hammer punch to the solar plex why ??? they hve no good hand defense lol maybe it worked 2000 years ago but it dont hold weight now! the quicker you figure that out the faster you will learn to fight for real ;)
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2007, 07:34:56 AM »
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2007, 07:40:05 AM »
Exactly my point his head looks mighty open on both sides now dosent it ? and his body is practacly wide open too one punch to the chest cavity on this dude and it's all over but the cryin!
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2007, 10:46:30 PM »
Walk into a full-contact karate dojo and tell the instuctor he doesn't know how to fight. You've never encountered a legitimate black belt in Gojo-ryu, Kyokushin, or Shurin-ryu. They go through many real fights - meaning no gloves whatsover before attaining that. It takes 6 years of brutal training. I'm sure Andy Hug, doesn't know how to fight. You're a know nothing. Ask Bas Rutten about Karate. Or GSP. Full-contact Karate is the greatest standup fighting. It's been proven in K-1 and the UFC.
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2007, 08:30:56 AM »
they punch with one hand down in k-1 ??? I don't think so ;)
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Re: Karate blackbelts in K-1 and MMA
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2007, 08:40:26 AM »
Quote from: Nathan on January 20, 2007, 08:30:56 AM
they punch with one hand down in k-1 ??? I don't think so ;)

hahahaha, maybe if they're looking to get their head taken off by a high kick right after they throw said punch.
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